Who let the dogs out? – And what do I do about them?

By 20 January, 2009 73

My wife was jogging around Flynn yesterday morning as she usually does, when she came across a Staffy / Pit-bull cross who stopped her in her tracks.  He came out from in front of a property and went after her.  After some scrambling, falling on the ground and some panicked running she was able to hide from it. She came home a bit scratched up and very shaken up.

Neither my wife or I are scared of dogs, in fact we both love them and my wife formerly owned a Rottweiler.  Earlier in the morning before this incident, she crossed paths with owners and their big dogs, and has never caused her any problems.

She went jogging again this morning and saw the dog, who was walking along with another dog and it’s owner, and caused her no grief.  The person walking their dog was not the owner. So it appears this dog is out often with no supervision.

My questions are these:

    1. WTF is this dog not behind a fence, or at very least out and about under owners supervision?  We all know the stories that we read about each year with kids and adults alike being mauled, sometime to death by these breeds.  I believe it should be enforceable to have these dogs supervised or behind a fence at all times if people keep insisting on owning them.

    2. While neither of us want to have this animal separated from it’s owner, or the welfare of the dog jeopardised – what is the best way to make sure the owner puts this dog behind a fence?  We don’t particularly want to follow the dog to where it lives – nor get close enough to see the tag on it’s collar.  Pursued once is close enough either of us would like to get.

    3. When dogs set on people, what is the best action to take.  While running is doubtfully one of them – does anyone have some proper advice in case this happens again?

I expect plenty of backlash about this one on here – but the welfare of my wife if far more important than any dog which has come after her.  Ideas and suggestions would be great.  And just maybe we might stop a mauling before it happens.

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73 Responses to Who let the dogs out? – And what do I do about them?
#1
johnboy11:38 am, 20 Jan 09

You definitely don’t want to run away, and you don’t want the dog to close on you either.

Without wanting to endorse animal cruelty, if you feel genuinely threatened then my advice would be:

1. Stay calm and don’t turn your back on the dog, back away slowly.

2. If there’s a stout stick to hand and the dog is coming at you swing and swing hard.

3. In the absence of axe handles a kick *can* fend them off, but you’d want to be wearing solid shoes.

4. Worst comes to worst climb a tree and call for help.

#2
justbands11:39 am, 20 Jan 09

Ring the ACT Gvt on their 13 number….they’ll put you through to the Dog Control mob, tell them your story & they’ll know how to proceed.

#3
PsydFX11:44 am, 20 Jan 09

So let me get this straight, there is a dog that is on the loose and has shown aggression and you’ve decided to post about it on RA rather than inform the appropriate authorities who may well prevent this dog from attacking a small child.

#4
jimbocool11:46 am, 20 Jan 09

1. It’s the owners’ responsibility to make sure that a dog is adequately secured when in public. If a dog is off-leash (in a non-offleash area) then the owner is committing an offence and it should be reported to Domestic Animal Services. Doubly so if the dog is behaving in a threatening manner.
2. It’s generally a good idea to talk to the owners first before going to DAS – they maybe unaware that the dog gets out, or unaware that it hassles passers-by. A reasonable person will take action to fix the situation. If that doesn’t work, or the owners are unreasonable then contact DAS and complain about a dangerous dog.
3. Running is a bad idea, as dogs like to chase things. Standing your ground and yelling “bah!” in a firm tone followed by the command “drop!” in conjuction with a chopping hand movement should work on any dog that has had any training. If that doesn’t work then hiding is the best option, and then report to DAS.

#5
AngryHenry11:46 am, 20 Jan 09

Stand your ground and don;t turn your back on the bugger, try and make yourself bigger than them but stay calm, I reckon they’re pretty intuitive when it comes to people, they tend to try and dominate people if they think they’re scared of them. The dog has claimed that area as their tettitory so they are defending it and you have to be bigger but remain calm to claim it back, without shouting and freaking out.

That said I had what looked like a mixed up pitbull crossed with god-knows what else chase the other day and I was absolutely sh*tting it! But I did stand my ground, he had a go at me, then backed off and I thought it was okay to turn around but as soon as I did he went straight for the back of my thigh. Which proved to me I shouldn’t turn my back on one if it comes at me.

I think it’s disgraceful that people allow dogs to roam around like that and their should be hefty fines for doing it, and their pets should be taken off them if they can’t handle them. I do understand from time to time accidents do happen however, a bit of diligence ensures that this can be avoided more often than not.

For the record I am not against dangerous breeds either, I have friends that are responsible dog owners with Pit Bulls and they are well looked after, socialised and great to be around. I bred Rottweilers when I was younger too. Big dogs need constant work and stimulation to keep them in check, if you stop doing that they’ll totally dominate your household and eventually the neighbourhood.

#6
Tempestas11:47 am, 20 Jan 09

Perhaps its time to consider licencing Dog owners.

That way the responsible people have nothing to worry about and the “I just need a pit-bull” for my ego/machismo crowd can fail.

#7
deceit11:47 am, 20 Jan 09

Solution to the matter: 10-80

#8
Danman11:53 am, 20 Jan 09

Perhaps its time to consider licencing Dog owners

Pure unadulterated logic.

I mean licensing drivers ensured that there are no irresponsible driving right ?

/End sarcasm

#9
AngryHenry11:54 am, 20 Jan 09

deceit said :

Solution to the matter: 10-80

What’s 10-80?

#10
PsydFX11:55 am, 20 Jan 09

Tempestas said :

Perhaps its time to consider licencing Dog owners.

That way the responsible people have nothing to worry about and the “I just need a pit-bull” for my ego/machismo crowd can fail.

Imagine the Ads:
If you’re dog is caught not wearing it’s collar this Australia Day Weekend, that’s half your license gone.

#11
PsydFX11:57 am, 20 Jan 09

erm… its not it’s

#12
Madame Workalot12:00 pm, 20 Jan 09

That’s a disgusting comment Deceit – have you seen what 10-80 does to animals?

Tylers – how terrifying! I would recommend calling DAS and reporting the area the dog was in. They may be able to catch it and check its collar/scan for a microchip. Yes, there’s a good chance it will get put down but there is no place for animals like that if the owner is not willing to properly secure it.

Not sure what the solution to the overall problem is, but I don’t endorse breed bans. Not all dogs of a certain breed are of a bad temperament. I, however, also believe that any dog capable of causing serious damage to another dog or person should be muzzled whenever in public.

#13
Deadmandrinking12:00 pm, 20 Jan 09

Umm, but what happens when your license is gone? Does the dog get taken away and destroyed?
Or do you?

#14
PsydFX12:04 pm, 20 Jan 09

Deadmandrinking said :

Umm, but what happens when your license is gone? Does the dog get taken away and destroyed?
Or do you?

Not sure, but I’m sure you can get around it by suggesting that you need your dog for “work puposes”

#15
AngryHenry12:05 pm, 20 Jan 09

Right!~ Now I know what 10-80 is.

Deciet you’re a pr*ck.

If you think baiting dogs is the best way to handle it maybe you should go back to your bunker and spend some more of that quality time with your sister. Then when you guys have your puppies you can serve their little in-bred deformed bodies some 10-80 and repeat the process until you get it right.

#16
chrispy12:06 pm, 20 Jan 09

is 10-80 a gun?

A friend had their dog stolen. months later they were taking a walk and it jumped over the fence of a house down their street and ran to them.

People get weird about pets. Imagine thinking “I really miss that dog I stole”.

#17
tylersmayhem12:08 pm, 20 Jan 09

So let me get this straight, there is a dog that is on the loose and has shown aggression and you’ve decided to post about it on RA rather than inform the appropriate authorities who may well prevent this dog from attacking a small child.

No, it’s to get some awareness about it you dope – and to also get the proper information, instead of just calling the pound and having the dog picked up – I’d rather avoid that. WTFU PsydFX. Next time you make a comment on here, ask yourself why you are doing it on here, rather that going out and taking action on it.

#18
tylersmayhem12:16 pm, 20 Jan 09

Firstly, the 10-80 comment was WAY inapprope! I don’t endorse breed bans either. BUT I do expect proper environments and supervision on particular breeds. As I said in my most recent post, my idea of asking suggestions is I would like to avoid having the dog removed from it’s owner – and particularly not destroyed for no reason. I simply want the owner to take responsibility of their pet. If they are “unaware” their dog is out and about, I doubt the owner is particularly responsible.

#19
Deadmandrinking12:16 pm, 20 Jan 09

PsydFX said :

Deadmandrinking said :

Umm, but what happens when your license is gone? Does the dog get taken away and destroyed?
Or do you?

Not sure, but I’m sure you can get around it by suggesting that you need your dog for “work puposes”

Or you can ignore them and gallop away on the dog’s back when the K-9′s pull you over? It is a bit of a silly idea, yes.

Actually, Deceit, in the country that’s what happens to alot of dogs when they get loose and cause mischief around cattle and sheep. It’s actually what happened to my old dog from when I was growing up. She got out with a new dog and decided to visit some other properties. Somebody shot her for going too close to her sheep. It’s kind of necessary, I suppose, considering it’s the farmers source of profit and they have no way of discerning whether a dog is feral or wearing a collar from a distance. But it’s still not a very nice thing for the owner. We took good care of that dog and had her on a chain when we weren’t home so it wouldn’t happen. Unfortunately, when the new dog came they decided to escape and be naughty – which had only happened once before. A bit of a hefty price to pay for the dog’s mischief and the owners mistake, I think. There would be no need to do that in the suburbs.

What the hell would you be doing walking around with a gun in the suburbs anyway? Are you sure it’s not the dog that needs to be reported? Or shot?

#20
PsydFX12:16 pm, 20 Jan 09

PsydFX said :

If my dog is on the loose, I would rather someone call it in so that it is picked up. That way it would reduce the chance of it being hit by a car, injured by someone who is intimidated by it, sotlen, or it attacking someone.

If the owner cares about the dog, it will be chipped, which means that the pount will call them, or they can ring the appropriate sources to see if it has been found, and pay the money to collect it.

Leaving an aggressive dog on the loose for 2 days, before even asking for advice on RiotACT is irresponsible. So maybe you should WTFU!

#21
Buzz260012:20 pm, 20 Jan 09

There’s no place for a Staffy / Pit-bull cross dog like this. The mutt should be put down asap. What are you waiting for?

#22
johnboy12:21 pm, 20 Jan 09

Last warning on abusing other commenters PsydFX.

#23
tylersmayhem12:26 pm, 20 Jan 09

@PsydFX: ever thought that I might have already been getting the run around by various departments not waiting to take responsibility d**khead? It’s also my wife’s welfare on the line here to – so you can put your aggression and halfwit comments somewhere else. How about providing some useful comments or suggestions on here instead of sniping from the sidelines?

You are just the moron I expected to hear from when I added my disclaimer at the bottom of the OP.

#24
Deadmandrinking12:28 pm, 20 Jan 09

PsydFX, a lot of the time, the owner does not realize their dog is out. They could be busy with housework or something…or they might not even be at the house. It doesn’t take dogs a whole days to find mischief, believe me.

#25
jakez12:28 pm, 20 Jan 09

What is a 10-80?

#26
Deadmandrinking12:30 pm, 20 Jan 09

Well, JakeZ, it would seem we are all idiots. It’s some kind of poison. I thought it was a gun too.

#27
peterh12:33 pm, 20 Jan 09

chrispy said :

is 10-80 a gun?

A friend had their dog stolen. months later they were taking a walk and it jumped over the fence of a house down their street and ran to them.

People get weird about pets. Imagine thinking “I really miss that dog I stole”.

10-80 is one of the most foul poisons ever invented. enough said.

#28
VYBerlinaV8_the_one_12:33 pm, 20 Jan 09

Exactly. I’ve seen neighbourhoods where the owners are waaaaay to drunk and high to take care of their rotty cross mongrels. Lovely!

#29
Deadmandrinking12:36 pm, 20 Jan 09

So, obviously, all dog owners are drunk and high. Any other huge section of the community you want to alienate today?

#30
stray12:48 pm, 20 Jan 09

How very scary for your wifey! Hope she is ok.
Twice as a teenager I got chased and bitten walking home from the bus in Flynn/Melba by blue heeler types of dogs. Scared me no end, I have only just gotten used to being around dogs now. Good advice from comments 1 & 2.
I didnt even think about reporting it to anyone except mum and dad, and parents werent really sure who to call either, as it both attacks were in a play/grassed area and the owners would have been very difficult to track down.
Later I just figured they were bored and on the loose, looking to play and running away from them caused more harm than good!
At least I’ll know what to do next time though! *knock wood* :-)

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