31 October 2011 the last day for light plastic shopping bags

By 28 October, 2010 105

[First filed: Oct 27, 2010 @ 10:31]

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Simon Corbell has announced the end of light plastic shopping bags with the final ban to be in place from 1 November next year.

Before panicking bear in mind there will be many exemptions:

The Plastic Shopping Bags Ban Bill 2010 will ban the supply of plastic shopping bags of 35 microns or less, generally the type distributed through supermarkets, grocery stores and takeaway food outlets.

A range of bags will be unaffected by the ban, including barrier bags of the type dispensed from a roll to hold items such as fruit or meat and heavier retail bags used in department, footwear and clothing stores.

The Government expects that retailers will provide a range of bags to consumers to replace light weight plastic bags including reuseable ‘green’ bags, paper bags and biodegradable bags which meet Australian Standard AS 4736-2006. The sale of plastic bin liners for waste containers in the home is unaffected by the ban.

I’m still not sure how we’re getting greasy take-away home without making a mess in the car, but we’re going to find out.

UPDATE: The Greens’ Caroline Le Couteur has expressed her pleasure at this piece of Green policy being adopted.

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105 Responses to 31 October 2011 the last day for light plastic shopping bags
#1
Frano10:39 am, 27 Oct 10

Oh okay, now I’ll go and buy plastic trash bags rather than using the plastic shopping bags as binliners. This policy will work….(for the bag manufacturers and retailers)…

#2
Keijidosha10:40 am, 27 Oct 10

If the food you buy is that greasy then I’d be more worried about your arteries, not the car’s interior!

I am curious why the placky bags used to carry fruit/veg are exempt from this new law. Surely they could be repaced by recycled paper bags?

#3
JessicaNumber10:41 am, 27 Oct 10

“I’m still not sure how we’re getting greasy take-away home without making a mess in the car.”

Save the planet: put a basket on your bike and use that for the take-away run. Bikes are easily hosed off. :-)

#4
schmeah10:43 am, 27 Oct 10

Woo – hoo! About time. South Australia introduced this 2 years ago while the rest of the country kept advocating the purposes of the plastic bag!

Most people have those recycable green bags now anyway, so hopefully this won’t be too controversial! My impression of Canberra – after 3 years – is that it’s a far more eco-friendly city than elsewhere in the country (except for those old buses .. ); most people (and some large workplaces) have a compost system of some description and an enormous amount of people use a bike as preferred transport so it’s great that this has come about!

Oh, John Boy – is that a tin of ‘pal’ dog food I see? Do you know how bad that crap is? it’s like feeding your pooch a big mac every day!

#5
AngryHenry10:46 am, 27 Oct 10

I don’t get the idea of plastic bags for most fruit and veg, mother nature does a pretty good job of packaging them herself.

However, I do understand the need for plastic bags when I buy chicken necks for my dogs because for some reason the orignal plastic bag housing them ends up compromised and I end up with nasty chicken juice all over everything.

#6
trickyxr10:51 am, 27 Oct 10

What a joke, Supermarkets will just bring in the heavier plastic bags and charge the consumer, same as aldi

#7
TVStar10:51 am, 27 Oct 10

What crap! What about 4wd’s, MacMansions, first-class tickets for Department of Climate Change staff to travel overseas to work out how to end global warming?

Canberra – feel good initiatives that make people, who do more damage to the environment than any other people in Australia, feel better about their white trash lifestyles.

When we ban flat screen TVs that are made in highly polluting factories in China I’ll get on board with this garbage – or does that not matter because it’s out of sight?

Does Lin Hatfield Dodds still have here 4wd?

#8
JessicaNumber10:54 am, 27 Oct 10

I wouldn’t worry too much about the KFA’s health, he is a seriously fast and shiny puppy.

His behaviour, on the other hand…

#9
random11:00 am, 27 Oct 10

AngryHenry said :

I don’t get the idea of plastic bags for most fruit and veg, mother nature does a pretty good job of packaging them herself.

Otherwise it’s rather hard to throw a handful of green beans, snow peas, chilli peppers etc. into your trolley. Obviously you don’t need to stretch a plastic bag around a watermelon.

trickyxr said :

What a joke, Supermarkets will just bring in the heavier plastic bags and charge the consumer, same as aldi

Which is why if I forget my green bags I always stumble out of Aldi trying to balance 15 cans of tuna on one arm.

#10
KB197111:08 am, 27 Oct 10

TVStar said :

What crap! What about 4wd’s, MacMansions, first-class tickets for Department of Climate Change staff to travel overseas to work out how to end global warming?

Canberra – feel good initiatives that make people, who do more damage to the environment than any other people in Australia, feel better about their white trash lifestyles.

When we ban flat screen TVs that are made in highly polluting factories in China I’ll get on board with this garbage – or does that not matter because it’s out of sight?

Does Lin Hatfield Dodds still have here 4wd?

All cars are environmentally unfriendly, not just 4WD’s.

So I take it you dont live in a house, walk everywhere, done have any electrical appliances?

What does a first class ticket have to do with the environment?

Holier than thou?

OK, plasic bags are a bit of a token gesture but its a start as they are such a waste of plastic & bad for bird & marine life in particular. They should be banned.

Now the Government needs to look at packaging on all products from things like individually packed batteries to these meal for one things that come in a foam cup (non-recyclable) & have a little plastic spoon ect that comes with them. Are people not capable of taking a spoon with them to work that we need this?

There is so much waste in the food industry that is id bordering on discraceful.

#11
TVStar11:08 am, 27 Oct 10

Oh yes, and the Productivity Commission recommended against this!

#12
John Moulis11:12 am, 27 Oct 10

Just another tax on the poor masquerading as an environmental measure. Pensioners who use the free bags as bin liners will now have to buy them. That’s in addition to the escalating electricity prices caused by “Canberra loves 40%”, carbon tax talk and the other green measures. It seems the ACT government has been spooked by the urban myths about dead whales and dolphins being cut open and thousands of plastic bags falling out. We’re being sent to the poorhouse just to give a powerful, upper middle class minority a warm fuzzy feeling.

#13
Thoroughly Smashed11:12 am, 27 Oct 10

Change, oh no!

I always find it funny how willing some people are to kick up a fuss over life’s trivialities.

Maybe I can contribute… Yes that’s it, if I forget my green bags, I’ll have to drive back home to get them! Personal responsibility be damned, take that environmental policy!

#14
clp11:13 am, 27 Oct 10

I carry one of those folded up shopping bags with me (the benefits of being a woman and owning a handbag) and its pretty easy to deal with.

Surprised no one has come up with the picking up dog poo line yet.

#15
caf11:31 am, 27 Oct 10

Yeah, I’d really rather not have to buy specific bin bags.

#16
AngryHenry11:36 am, 27 Oct 10

random said :

Otherwise it’s rather hard to throw a handful of green beans, snow peas, chilli peppers etc. into your trolley. Obviously you don’t need to stretch a plastic bag around a watermelon.

Which is why I said ‘most’ fruit and veg.

#17
Jim Jones11:46 am, 27 Oct 10

John Moulis said :

We’re being sent to the poorhouse just to give a powerful, upper middle class minority a warm fuzzy feeling.

Getting rid of some plastic bags is going to send everyone to the poorhouse?

I had no idea that plastic bags were such an intrinsic part of the capitalist system.

#18
Me no fry11:48 am, 27 Oct 10

Is there any evidence that such measures actually work to reduce usage of plastic bags overall, or is this just something that will make us all feel better about driving to the shops for food that has been flown in from China/Israel/Indonesia/wherever?

Not that I’m against reducing waste. I reuse all my plastic shopping bags, and when I’m finished with them I tie knots in them so they are less likely to become wind-borne (this makes me feel slightly better about driving to the shops for food that has been flown in from China/Israel/Indonesia/wherever).

I’d like to go back to shopping as I remember it in the 60′s and 70′s – groceries were packed in brown bags, and when you shopped for veges you took them home all mixed together in one bag – the bag you took to the shops with you.

#19
Joker11:51 am, 27 Oct 10

Originally, wasn’t the banning of plastic bags to stop sea turtles mistaking plastic bags for jelly fish?
Is it about land fill? Seriously, how much volume does a plastic bag take up? Surely most are used as bin liners anyway. Let’s ban Nappies and pre-packaged ‘fresh food’ that takes huge amounts of landfill.

#20
TVStar11:55 am, 27 Oct 10

KB1971 said :

What does a first class ticket have to do with the environment?

I can’t argue with stupidity. Sorry.

#21
3Jane11:57 am, 27 Oct 10

Love it! In Adelaide it cost me 10c for a plastic bag recently, or 15c for a nice big sturdy one from the supermarket. At other places, shops would supply a paper bag instead.

I find cotton or calico bags really convenient, as you can just throw them in the wash when they get greasy or dirty. My local Salvo’s is currently selling them for 20c each. True, you can’t use them for bin liners, but between recycling and composting, my family only needs a couple of bin liners a week.

#22
rosscoact12:00 pm, 27 Oct 10

the sky is falling the sky is falling!

19 posts and no conspiracy theories yet, what’s wrong with you people?

#23
schmeah12:03 pm, 27 Oct 10

Cue the pensioner onslaught! I do believe I have heard it all – plastic bags are an assault against the aged pensioner! Plastic bags are not going to send you to the poor house, a lot of bad habits or unnecessary wastage might however, send everyone to the poor house.

A lot of people use plastic bags for bins, so everyone, not just pensioners, are going to have to find an alternative! And how much will these bags cost? 10 cents, 50 cents? Why don’t you buy some green bags and then occasionally resort to buying the odd plastic bag for your bin liners?

Or, just go to the supermarket and buy bin liners like everyone else!!!

#24
cmdwedge12:23 pm, 27 Oct 10

KB1971 said :

TVStar said :

Does Lin Hatfield Dodds still have here 4wd?

All cars are environmentally unfriendly, not just 4WD’s.

I would wager that my little Honda Jazz is more environmentally friendly than LH-D’s V8 4WD. It’s just amazing to see the Greens defend the indefensible. Yes, all cars are environmentally unfriendly. Are they EQUALLY environmentally unfriendly? Or are you just butthurt that the Greens spent $500K on a campaign which netted exactly 0 seats?

#25
p112:24 pm, 27 Oct 10

Why do people need those placky bags in the veggie section? I put snow peas, beans, etc in the paper bags they provide for mushrooms, and just toss the rest of the veggies in together.

#26
Holditz12:26 pm, 27 Oct 10

You know, despite a year’s warning and ample time to adapt, people are still going to roll up at the cash register on 1 November 2011 and ask “where’s the plastic bags?” And when they are told, they will say, “I wasn’t told this! When did this happen?”

#27
frontrow12:30 pm, 27 Oct 10

Is this going to get rid of plastic bags or are the supermarkets going to start using 36 micron bags?

Will there be inspectors?

#28
KB197112:34 pm, 27 Oct 10

TVStar said :

KB1971 said :

What does a first class ticket have to do with the environment?

I can’t argue with stupidity. Sorry.

What yours?

So, instead of actually backing up your points when challenged you just resort to a personal attack?

Stupid is as stupid does………

#29
Thumper12:36 pm, 27 Oct 10

Or are you just butthurt that the Greens spent $500K on a campaign which netted exactly 0 seats?

That’s one of the funnier things I’ve read this month.

#30
KB197112:57 pm, 27 Oct 10

cmdwedge said :

KB1971 said :

TVStar said :

Does Lin Hatfield Dodds still have here 4wd?

All cars are environmentally unfriendly, not just 4WD’s.

I would wager that my little Honda Jazz is more environmentally friendly than LH-D’s V8 4WD. It’s just amazing to see the Greens defend the indefensible. Yes, all cars are environmentally unfriendly. Are they EQUALLY environmentally unfriendly? Or are you just butthurt that the Greens spent $500K on a campaign which netted exactly 0 seats?

Agreed. Some more than others but people tend to think that drving a small car is a magic bullet.

Some examples of the lack of equality when people look at 4WD’s (given it is only in the last 5 years that 4 cylinder vehicles have become uber fuel efficient, anyone remember the 2.6 Magna?)

Fuel cost: Yes there is a fair difference in fuel cost with some 4wd’s such as the V8 Landcruiser using near 20lt/100km. That is an extreme, most COMMON 4wd’s now have common rail direct injection diesel engines with a prticulate filter. The Nissan Pathfinder comes to mind, used 11l/100 around town, not much more than say a Mazda 6 with its 4 cylinder engine. Smaller front wheel drive cars use a lot less but I might also add the fuel consumption is a variable thing.

Tyre cost: most cars that are not 4wd’s will get about 30-40,000km from a set of tyres. 4wd’s can get consistently 80-100,000km from a set of tyres (depending on tyre choice some get more).

Brake pad life: Small cars can get exceptional brake pad wear, I have seen a Nissan Pulsar get 120,000km out of a set of pads. 4WD’s also get similar brake pad wear, I have a mate with a 1993 Toyota Hulux, 290,000km on its original brake pads. Brake pad wear is also variable due to driving styles. Falcons & Commodores, I replaced a set of pads at 9,000km in a Falcon once.

Overall vehicle quality: many 4wd’s are built stronger & last longer that your average 2wd car reducing the amount of natural resources required to build another one (I am not taking the original drain on resources in this statement, just the follow on.)

Battries: the batteries in a hybrid car are more environmentally unfriendly that the car itself.

I could go on.

I was not really having a go at the Green thing as I am not actually a supporter of the Greens, I was having a poke at an unsubstantiated comment made by a goose who does not appear to know what they are talking about.

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