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41 more wind turbines for Lake George

By 6 November 2011 63

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The ABC has news of planning approval for the Capital 2 wind farm project.

The Capital 2 wind farm project on the east side of Lake George in New South Wales includes an additional 41 wind turbines to generate power for the grid.

David Griffin from Infigen Energy says the expansion will be part of a proposed renewable energy precinct including a 50 megawatt solar farm, which was approved in December 2010.

“The two wind farms that are currently located there are 141 and 48 megawatts so there’s 189 megawatts installed there now,” he said.

“This new wind farm will see the addition of approximately another 100 megawatts so there’s a fairly significant increase in the capacity at that location.”

Wind turbines are awesome.

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63 Responses to 41 more wind turbines for Lake George
#1
welkin3112:40 pm, 06 Nov 11

Anybody have an idea what these 41 proposed new turbines will cost the taxpayer in subsidies ?
I wonder what subsidies are paid to the existing wind farm.

#2
grundy1:20 pm, 06 Nov 11

Most of the funding is private, from my understanding of these projects.

#3
enrique2:30 pm, 06 Nov 11

welkin31 said :

Anybody have an idea what these 41 proposed new turbines will cost the taxpayer in subsidies ?
I wonder what subsidies are paid to the existing wind farm.

Your point being?

#4
EvanJames3:22 pm, 06 Nov 11

That wind farm was originally built to meet the considerable power needs of the Sydney water desalination plant. What is emerging (from this and other wind farms) is that the low-frequency sound emitted by the turbines actually harms the people living nearby. Some people have had to actually leave their properties and live further away, returning to the properties to work, the health effects are so severe.

#5
OpenYourMind3:48 pm, 06 Nov 11

EvanJames, I’ve heard that this low level noise is quite remarkable. It only targets those who aren’t getting a bite of the windmill farmland cherry.

Next thing we’ll be hearing that old furphy about windmills being bird killers. I think they may well fade your curtains as well.

#6
creative_canberran3:55 pm, 06 Nov 11

EvanJames said :

What is emerging (from this and other wind farms) is that the low-frequency sound emitted by the turbines actually harms the people living nearby. Some people have had to actually leave their properties and live further away, returning to the properties to work, the health effects are so severe.

My response to them is too bad, so sad. Saw an interview with one of these people once, puffing away on a cigarette while complaining about the wind turbine noise a mile away. Please.
Fact is there’s many other sources of low frequency noise worse than that of wind turbines. The greater benefit of renewable energy outweighs the displacement of a few nutjobs, at least some of whom are simply using sickness as an excuse to save their countryside views.

#7
Thoroughly Smashed4:02 pm, 06 Nov 11

EvanJames said :

the low-frequency sound emitted by the turbines actually harms the people living nearby.[citation needed]

#8
bobzed575:07 pm, 06 Nov 11

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

#9
qbngeek5:20 pm, 06 Nov 11

EvanJames said :

What is emerging (from this and other wind farms) is that the low-frequency sound emitted by the turbines actually harms the people living nearby. Some people have had to actually leave their properties and live further away, returning to the properties to work, the health effects are so severe.

The world is yet to see any evidence that this is true, apart from the word of people who are pissed off that they didn’t make any money out of the wind farms. Mind you, there is evidence out there that proves it to be a load of crap.

It is a load of rubbish and is only supported by the gullible and the people mentioned above.

#10
qbngeek5:21 pm, 06 Nov 11

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

I reckon they look awesome, I can see hills anywhere I go. My kids love to see them too.

#11
JonahBologna5:21 pm, 06 Nov 11

Wind turbines to cause a genuine health hazard. It is called anemomenophobia; or the fear of wind turbines. It is a crippling psychological condition where people think that they can be negatively affected by a rotating piece of metal.

#12
I-filed5:50 pm, 06 Nov 11

There was an ABC doco recently. Farmers who were profiting 90,000+ a year from the wind turbines were living within a few hundred metres with no ill-effects, and pointed out that their livestock were happily munching grass and sleeping right beneath the turbines. Farmers who had missed out were complaining of health problems.

#13
Henry825:57 pm, 06 Nov 11

Personally, i think they look fine.

However afaik they have a high pitched noise (that certain people can’t hear) and it makes some people sick.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/special_eds/20110725/wind/

#14
welkin316:03 pm, 06 Nov 11

enrique, I asked my questions because there are a multitude of talented people reading RiotAct – some of who may have relevant information.
Let me just point you to webpages where you can make charts of the performance of various windfarms –
http://windfarmperformance.info/
I like the chart at the bottom of the page, right hand side of the pair – comparing wind power supply with total demand for power across the NEM regions (NSW, Qld, SA, Tas and Vic) for the calendar year 2010.
Showing supply on the same scale as demand.
Sort of gets wind power in perspective.

#15
Stevian6:28 pm, 06 Nov 11

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

That’s surely a matter of opinion, I quite like them. The noise pollution is a lie, as is the bird killing claim. Conventional power generation is much more harmful. I quote as much citation as anyone else has.

#16
toriness6:32 pm, 06 Nov 11

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

no way – i think they are stunning!

#17
Onceler6:37 pm, 06 Nov 11

As man-made structures go, I think they look pretty good. Elegant, even. There are plenty of houses around the place that are worse eyesores.

#18
Classified7:35 pm, 06 Nov 11

qbngeek said :

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

I reckon they look awesome, I can see hills anywhere I go. My kids love to see them too.

Absolutely – the landscape is still there, and this adds interest and is a renewable source of energy to boot.

#19
bobzed578:06 pm, 06 Nov 11

qbngeek said :

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

I reckon they look awesome, I can see hills anywhere I go. My kids love to see them too.

Check out what they’ve done in the Southern Flinders Ranges. Ah the serenity.

#20
astrojax8:22 pm, 06 Nov 11

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

you’re kidding, right? ‘sure are’ to who?? they’re architectural bliss. suggest you go to aldi, or target, or somewhere and get a life. sure there’s one going cheap.

#21
Holden Caulfield8:28 pm, 06 Nov 11

OpenYourMind said :

Next thing we’ll be hearing that old furphy about windmills being bird killers.

Yeah, I’m with you mate. Some crazy tried to tell me the earth is round the other day. I just laughed.

#22
joy1810:47 pm, 06 Nov 11

bobzed57 said :

While they might be all goodness and light for the environment, they sure are visual polution.

Anyone who whinges about visual pollution from wind turbines has never been for a drive up the New England Highway through Muswellbrook and Singleton. I was astounded by how much coal fired power has destroyed the landscape there.

#23
Palifox11:25 pm, 06 Nov 11

Bird killers. A bloke who worked at a coal fired power plant has seen entire flocks of birds sucked in the air intake for the furnaces. They also go in in ones and twos and they come out the chimney a few seconds later in gaseous form.

#24
matt3122111:53 pm, 06 Nov 11

Went down for a MC ride through Bungendore and past the wind turbines to The loaded dog pub in Tarago the other week. The turbines make for an awesome backdrop on a ride that’s for sure.

#25
yellowsnow12:36 am, 07 Nov 11

The crazy thing is all the energy generated around Lake George goes to offset power consumed by an expensive and powerhungry Sydney desal plant that’s no longer needed, yet runs 24h/per day anyway. It’s one hungry beast.

Given the desal plant wasn’t there a few years ago, the turbines don’t actually take the place of coal power generation – they’re additional to it. So, in other words, so long as the desal plan continues to turn sea water into crappy tapwater, the turbines are hardly very ‘green’ at all as their effect on coal consumption is zilch

#26
yellowsnow12:51 am, 07 Nov 11

EvanJames said :

What is emerging (from this and other wind farms) is that the low-frequency sound emitted by the turbines actually harms the people living nearby. Some people have had to actually leave their properties and live further away, returning to the properties to work, the health effects are so severe.

I believe the symptoms described by these people are synonymous with Nimby Neo-Luddite Disease.

Prescribed cure: stop listening to Alan Jones, take a deep breath and chillax

#27
peterepete6:11 am, 07 Nov 11

i think its a bit arrogant to dismiss all claims of adverse health impacts without evidence – we have some anecdotal claims that they are a hazard and they should be evaluated. The real problem with these is the increased rotational speed of the globe as a result of all these propellers spinning. It is shortening our days and will muck up our entire ecology – not to mention have you ever noticed how time seems to be speeding up over the years since these things started going up?

#28
enrique7:47 am, 07 Nov 11

welkin31 said :

enrique, I asked my questions because there are a multitude of talented people reading RiotAct – some of who may have relevant information.
Let me just point you to webpages where you can make charts of the performance of various windfarms -
http://windfarmperformance.info/
I like the chart at the bottom of the page, right hand side of the pair – comparing wind power supply with total demand for power across the NEM regions (NSW, Qld, SA, Tas and Vic) for the calendar year 2010.
Showing supply on the same scale as demand.
Sort of gets wind power in perspective.

I still don’t understand what you are saying. In your first comment you were asking about subsidies, in this second comment you are pointing us off to another site that has a graph charting supply of wind power against total demand for power.

What are you trying to tell us?

#29
krats7:51 am, 07 Nov 11

Thoroughly Smashed said :

EvanJames said :

the low-frequency sound emitted by the turbines actually harms the people living nearby.[citation needed]

There Are No Pictures…So Read The Words Slowly.There Will Be Questions When You Have Finished.

http://www.ehjournal.net/content/10/1/78

#30
NoAddedMSG7:54 am, 07 Nov 11

I’ve lived near a very large windfarm in NZ, and it was fine. Sometimes if the wind blew in the right direction you could hear something which might have been the turbines, but it was nothing compared with the noise the wind made rattling all the windows in the house. In the end, living on a hillside with constant wind was a bit of a drag though..

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