ACT Election Candidates – How Low Will They Stoop?

By 8 October, 2008 80

All’s not fair in politics.

Driving home today along Athllon Drive I see four campaign signs from Joy Burch (Labor candidate for Brindabella) strewn along the roadside.  That made me pretty angry. 

This senseless vandalism is getting ridiculous.  I heard that one candidate last week had every single sign stolen from around the electorate.  These signs are not cheap and if your campaign budget is small, like Joy’s, each one is very valuable.

It’s one thing to strategically place your sign to obscure that of an opponent at a shopping centre or ring the Rangers to complain about someone’s sign inappropriately placed – that’s strategy – taking advantage of the opponent’s poor choice.

Vandalism (like plagiarism) is the choice of the stupid, the lazy, and those incapable of waging a clever campaign based on sound policy, good marketing and solid community relationships.

But it’s not just that.  Joy doesn’t have rich business backers or a wealthy husband backing her campaign.  She doesn’t have a high profile from years in the public eye.  She isn’t a sitting member with a nice salary to build an election nest egg. 

Joy relies on meagre funds from generous supporters (many of whom can ill-afford it) and the support of friends and family to keep her campaign going.  If Joy has any chance at all in the election it will be from sheer hard work on things like the campaign to save the Wanniassa Medical Centre.

She’s a good person and it’s a disgrace to treat her this way.

You’d think that elections would bring out the best that parties have to offer.  What I’m seeing is the worst of some people and I don’t think it’s the last.

All I can say is that if people are so frightened of someone like Joy who’s just a nice, hardworking person that they have to stoop to this sort of activity – they deserve a resounding defeat on October 18.

PS: I’m a Labor Party member and NOT on Joy’s campaign team and don’t know her that well.  Of course I’m a little biased but I’m a lot angry.

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80 Responses to ACT Election Candidates – How Low Will They Stoop?
#1
D-Man11:19 am, 08 Oct 08

Right now there’s a ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner hanging at the Young Libs Flying Squad HQ.

#2
Woody Mann-Caruso11:27 am, 08 Oct 08

If her campaign’s success hinges on four signs, she’s got bigger problems.

#3
PM11:27 am, 08 Oct 08

Val Jeffrey apparently got the number plate of the car which took all his – let’s hope the person is caught. Until there’s proof, accusing Young Libs or otherwise is just plain troublemaking.

#4
Thumper11:29 am, 08 Oct 08

Appalling.

I noticed some of the Jacquie Myers (sp?) signs had been flattened the other day. probably kids on treadlies but who knows?

#5
OliverCromwell11:31 am, 08 Oct 08

Unfortunately the “Young Libs Flying Squad” doesn’t actually exist. There would be something along the lines of 10 actual young libs, and 30-40 stacks. Goodness knows they wouldn’t be helping out Smyth and Pratt in Brindabella.
(former lib chiming in for the sake of accuracy)

#6
Granny11:31 am, 08 Oct 08

Jean Mc, I understand your concern for your friend, but there is no evidence it was other candidates that did this whatsoever. The other story here today about points for corflutes would seem to indicate that perhaps the other candidates are the least likely perpetrators.

As for the comment, “All’s not fair in politics,” that just makes me want to laugh, I’m afraid. When did you realise this?

I suspect most of the candidates suffer from a similar lack of funds. I think Johnboy and Gungahlin Al have already mentioned on different threads that they don’t have the kind of money sitting around that it would take to stand for election. Most people wouldn’t.

This lady does sound very sweet and nice, but if she’s going to take this so hard how on earth will she survive in the assembly?

#7
OliverCromwell11:34 am, 08 Oct 08

Actually, I don’t think it would be another candidate. Back when they had us running around grabbing “Getup” coreflutes they got us to *take* them entirely, with the stakes intact so we’d be able to use them and so they couldn’t just put them back up(since they were gone entirely, not just knocked over).
Leaving them sitting on the ground is silly.

#8
LG11:45 am, 08 Oct 08

maybe Joy didn’t use enough sticky tape?

#9
D-Man11:45 am, 08 Oct 08

OliverCromwell said :

Unfortunately the “Young Libs Flying Squad” doesn’t actually exist. There would be something along the lines of 10 actual young libs, and 30-40 stacks. Goodness knows they wouldn’t be helping out Smyth and Pratt in Brindabella.
(former lib chiming in for the sake of accuracy)

Unfortunately they do actually exit, and have As a fellow traveller you may be interested in signing up. Registration form available here:

http://www.actyoungliberals.org.au/flyingsquad.html

#10
D-Man11:47 am, 08 Oct 08

apologies for that gobbledygook post above

#11
Tonka12:24 pm, 08 Oct 08

yes appalling indeed… tsk tsk.

Four signs being knocked over is truly an outrage of immense proportions.

This outrage is truly a sign that society is crumbling into anarchy.

#12
Jean Mc12:27 pm, 08 Oct 08

Thanks for your thoughts.

I think I made it pretty clear that I don’t think Joy’s campaign would hinge on four signs. I don’t know if she’s as cranky as me.

You might be right that it may not be candidates doing this but I’ve seen enough mean tricks to believe that it is.

I haven’t pointed the finger at who I think it is. There are many possibilities from a number of groups.

#13
jakez12:28 pm, 08 Oct 08

D-Man said :

OliverCromwell said :

Unfortunately the “Young Libs Flying Squad” doesn’t actually exist. There would be something along the lines of 10 actual young libs, and 30-40 stacks. Goodness knows they wouldn’t be helping out Smyth and Pratt in Brindabella.
(former lib chiming in for the sake of accuracy)

Unfortunately they do actually exit, and have

As a fellow traveller you may be interested in signing up. Registration form available here:

http://www.actyoungliberals.org.au/flyingsquad.html

So did you not actually read his post?

Despite Oliver Cromwell’s snooty (or should that be ‘sooty’) understating of the actual numbers, his charge is accurate.

It is one thing to put a membership form (from months ago) up on a website. It is another thing entirely to have a flying squad in operation.

Personally if I were to target another candidates corflutes, in this Hare-Clarke system I’d probably go after someone from my own Party. It’s not my style though (I even got out and fixed one of Mulcahy’s in Garran, despite not being the biggest fan).

#14
deye12:32 pm, 08 Oct 08

simple, remove all of the signs from everyone. Just an eyesore.

#15
Mrshmellowman12:39 pm, 08 Oct 08

I agree that the signs are an eyesore and I have my doubts about their effectiveness.
Please tell me that nobody decides who to vote for based on the pictures on those sad little future landfillers

#16
Danman12:41 pm, 08 Oct 08

One day riding to work – Election signs in scrubbery on side of Gunghalin Drive – heading south – cross road still heading south – fresh new election signs up for all to see. Heading home that afternoon – New signs in ditch on side of road, cross road, old signs still in scrubbery.

I dont know who wins these petty wars, but I can all but guarantee that these signs will still be there, lying in teh dirt or scrub long after the election.

So there is no winner, and the environment is the loser – just because some twats wanted to have a petty terrotorial pissing match.

If they remain after the election, I will ring teh candidates and see that they clean up their rubbish, regardless of who is responsible for dumping it off the side of the bike path.

#17
Granny12:43 pm, 08 Oct 08

Gosh, Danman, if you live this side of town you could come to our GCC election night and throw peanuts at the candidates.

#18
peterh12:45 pm, 08 Oct 08

what is the impact on the environment?

honestly, what are these things made out of?

wouldn’t it be better to have your details prominently displayed on your vehicle, on all sides?

I don’t look at the signs on the side of the road, I do look at the people waving and holding signs, but only briefly before avoiding the idiots who slow down – perhaps they can’t read?

#19
Danman12:49 pm, 08 Oct 08

I believe you are flirting with me Granny :)

I still have to do some work for Gunghalin Al, so my being there would be biased – unless other candidates wish to use my services.

#20
New Yeah12:52 pm, 08 Oct 08

Mrshmellowman said :

I agree that the signs are an eyesore and I have my doubts about their effectiveness.
Please tell me that nobody decides who to vote for based on the pictures on those sad little future landfillers

I’ve seen towns in Canada where nearly every house has a sign in the front yard proclaiming who everyone else (that is, people who generally have signs in their own yards) should vote for. Weird.

Will campaigning get to this stage in Canberra? I think it would be a slight on our collective intelligence if it did.

I saw that Barr had a whole bunch of signs ripped out in Campbell the other week.

Maybe Joy Burch should kick it Troy Williams-style and put stickers up around the place. At least stickers tend to last for a while.

#21
Mrshmellowman1:05 pm, 08 Oct 08

Maybe the Young Greens Flying Squad can get out and start vandalising the posters on the sides of the road so that they read something like

DON’T VOTE FOR
insert name of candidate

insert picture
for Molongolo
BECAUSE THEY ARE AN
ENVIRONMENTAL VANDAL

#22
Granny1:08 pm, 08 Oct 08

Well, in that case just round up anyone down the street who owns a pitchfork or torch and send ‘em on down …

(I have the flirting quotient of a six-year-old, Danman, so I’ll have to take your word for it).

; )

#23
seekay1:11 pm, 08 Oct 08

Er… there’s this thing called wind, people. It sometimes has a deleterious affect on poorly put up posters.

#24
justbands1:16 pm, 08 Oct 08

Appalling. Appalling that politicians are permitted to put these stupid signs up ANYWHERE in the first place, considering that nobody else can. The next time I get hassled for putting band posters up, I’ll just tell the cops that Joey & the rockers is in fact a political party.

Toughen up Joy (& supporters). Welcome to the world of politics. If this is the worst dirty trick she experiences (probably just the wind in any case) then she’ll be doing very well indeed.

#25
Danman1:36 pm, 08 Oct 08

Er… there’s this thing called wind, people. It sometimes has a deleterious affect on poorly put up posters.

Odd, I have never seen a wind that disciminates between political parties.

#26
sepi1:43 pm, 08 Oct 08

i’m interested to know who was running an organised group to pull down the Getup signs – lib head office??

#27
jakez1:55 pm, 08 Oct 08

Danman said :

Er… there’s this thing called wind, people. It sometimes has a deleterious affect on poorly put up posters.

Odd, I have never seen a wind that disciminates between political parties.

However if one person knows how to make a strong sign, and another does not, you will find the wind discriminates on that basis.

#28
tylersmayhem2:08 pm, 08 Oct 08

Simple – STOP LITTERING OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH YOUR BILLBOARDS AND JUNK MAIL!!!

#29
Grrrr2:24 pm, 08 Oct 08

Jean – have you failed to notice the irony in your statements? It is Joy’s campaign team who are the vandals.

Erecting signs on public property is the choice of the stupid, the lazy, and those incapable of waging a clever campaign based on sound policy, good marketing and solid community relationships. :P

#30
Loose Brown3:01 pm, 08 Oct 08

Very clever free advertising for your favoured candidate Jean. Very clever.

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