18 July 2009

Mt Ginn speedway

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I have recently being trying to find info on the Mt Ginn speedway that used to operate in canberra, but have drawn an almost complete blank

Does anyone have any info/ memories of this facility that they would like to share?

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Peter Van Der Kley12:07 pm 15 Jul 17

Hi, I Raced an FB Holden then a EH at Mt Ginn, back in 1976, Raced there for about 5 years, I have a few pictures, Also raced at Tralee speedway. on the half mile track, not the one with the timber walls.
I raced against Terry Robbie, Dirk Buurveld, Sid Swanston, Alida Swanston drove my car in the ladies races against Pam Butler and other ladies.These were great times in my life, I have 49 sashes, and 8 trophies from there. Peter

I steve haines as a kid with my family watched the races then the class 2s started to race out their so my father built a standard 10 to race his no was 19 when I was12 iraced go karts and won a couple of titles and then we build the first Hillman imp to race in the area and won a lot of titles I have photos of the cars that raced out their

I have just been scanning some of my father’s old slides from 1960 and there are 4 slides of Mt Ginn race track – I vaguely remember going along sometimes – but I was only 10 at the time. Happy to share the slides if your interested.

I have found the ‘outline’ of the Mt Ginn Speedway on an old Canberra map.

transposed to GoogleEarth

http://bbs.keyhole.com/ubb/ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=901281&filename=20100501192031-4bdce16f287898.27376943.kmz

Hey Willo, as a 10 year old i used to tag along with my older brothers to Mt Ginn raceway, it was an awsome time in canberra then, it used to draw a huge crowd on sunday mornings and was really exciting for a youngster and for the oldies as well i suspect, now 38 years later i can still remember individual cars and drivers, Jimmy Brookes the plumber used to race brer rabbitt which i spent many idle summer days helping sand back in readyness for the slick paint job it then recieved, the pulford brothers were big as well with some mean stock cars mainly in deep purple tones, you could probably ring terry or peter pulford, they still motor based businesses in canberra, not hard to find at all. Dave Wignall is still around as well, im sure they should have images that we could all appreciate. There used to be a hill climb at the back of mt ginn, does anybody remember this track that used to wind up and around the mountain near mt ginn ?

thanks for the tips i’ll give the national library a go….the virtual library didnt help…..yes i have been told a lot of bits and pieces and even complete cars were left at the track when it closed will trot out there sometime and see if i can sort out where it is and see what i can uncover….

Willo if you are keen I reckon you would be able to get a fair bit of information on race results etc from the National Library. They have the Canberra Times copies from that era. Also there are remnants of the track and the racing located on the site which is in the clearing behind the now vacant Canberry Fair / Heratige Village site.

I remember riding up there as a kid late 60s early 70s to watch the events which included my favorite at the time smash up derbys, spectacular stuff with the heavy and hard cars of the day.

Wandering around with a metal detector would produce some amusing artifacts and the keen observer will find bits and pieces from the Mt Ginn days.

I also remember recovering an engine and gearbox from an old XM falcon with my dad that was abandoned in a ditch. We got the parts in the mid 80s which Dad successfully used to get his old Ford restoration completed. That Pursuit 170 had pistons from two motors and several gears from what we recovered.

yes i think motorcycles are still using marchmont but the cars are in a bit of a catch22 ….the insurance company wants them to construct a spectator fence……but the site is heritage listed and the trust wont allow a catch fence to be built…..i hope they sort something out ….i have unfinished business at marchmont……

yes it was marchmont a very good track too. I believe it is still being used by various groups.
the mc sportsmans of A.C.T ran an open bike meeting. Gough Witlam, the new prime minister at the time came to present the trophies. not a security gaurd in site

link dont work….

hairy nosed wombat6:46 pm 19 Jul 09

I remember going to Mt Ginn a few times as a kid, and yes, it was where Motel F1 now is.

If you are after details on the old Canberra, then check the ACT Historical library. It is located upstairs at the Woden public library. See linky dink for their web site.

Mike Bessenger6:27 pm 19 Jul 09

The track at tralee use to get used by dirtbike riders. I remember we use to ride from greenleigh to googong dam then out to tralee. I never actually knew it was a speedway track. I remember access for cars was out off the monero highway and maybe about 6-7 years a go they had a big attempt of blocking it off to stop cars from getting through.

Tralee Speedway was the greatest rainmaker known to the world, Indians icluded.

Whatever night it was on it was virtually guarranteed to pour down.

It must have been a deciding factor in the fairly constant churn of ownership over the years.

yes….something like that tralee was know as tralee speedway, fraser park raceway and pepsi powerdome at different times…..one of the promotors during the fraser park days was wayne olive who currently races a quick mazda rx7 in super production

Trunking symbols5:05 pm 19 Jul 09

Slightly OT – I remember Tralee speedway changed its name with great fanfare to Pepsi Powerdome then abruptly closed down altogether a year later. Possibly 1992 or ’93?

yass? was that at marchmont raceway? a long dirt track with a dogleg in the back straight….located in the centre of the horsetrack…it was still operating a few years back but is not running atm due to insurance dramas…..i only raced there once myself and rolled my old torana 1st time through the dogleg….

Mt Ginn closed about 1975-76, the sporties then ran short circuit meetings at yass for awhile.

thanks to all for your comments so far and to ace666 for the description of the track……..so it was oil based? would have been a fast track i’d say. does anyone remember when it closed? i can remember both the very first and very last meetings at tralee but have no memory at all of mt ginn……anyone got any photos of it?

This topic is bringing it all back, I remembered the sign veyr well, but couldn’t fathom where it was. We must have seen it on our walks, and I went to bendora riding school for years.

Mt Ginn was a bit past the anusment park. The entrance was opposite an old horse riding school? The spectators would park on the side of the hill and have a good view of the track from there. The track was basically flat with a slight slope away from the spectators. It was an oiled track so was extremely slippery in the wet. the shape was like a bowler hat. the long straight was past the spectators then a LH hairpin, a short straight,90 deg RH, a long LH sweeper, short straight, 45 deg right, LH back on to the straight. the car club controlled the venue, the bike clubs were join the cars and run on the same days. Sometimes seperate car/ bike meetings were run. The motorcycle sportsmens club ran the Terry McDonald memorial meeting in abnout 1970, It was a fantastic day with a lot of top line riders in attendance

old canberran5:14 pm 18 Jul 09

Most of what has been said so far is basically correct It started in the 60’s as a go-kart track as I recall. We used to live in Watson and we could hear the noise quite easily. It was up near Canberry fairand as described, a dirt track with humps and hollows and right and left turns. I think trail bikes and small stock cars used to race there as well. It was named after Billy Ginn a well known old Canberra identity who was part of the Ginn family who owned property in Canberra.

Of related interest but from earlier days was the Canberra speed trials.

Conducted during the 1920s & ’30s and referred to as being an ‘annual’ event, it featured standing-start and flying-start time trials and was held along the rural road that is now Northbourne Avenue.

(Arthur Rizzo)
“1938 saw us at Canberra to watch the attempts on the Australian records. Peter Whitehead’s ERA sounded terrific and was hand timed at around 150mph (the timing gear refused to record his time) and Frank Kleinig removed all the gears from his gearbox prior to attacking the flying quarter mile.”

150 mph in today’s jargon equates to just over 240 km/h!
I wonder, could this be the fastest speed ever recorded on Northbourne?

Also this National Archives image from 1926:
“Two contestants in a 100 MPH 3 litre Bentley for the RACV Alpine Rally. Driver Fred Brodribb. A half mile speed test was held in Canberra; the Bentley recorded 74 mph.”

http://www.pictureaustralia.org/apps/pictureaustralia?term1=northbourne+bentley&Submit=search&action=PASearch&attribute1=any+field&mode=search

I went there in the early seventies to watch a friend race his mini bike. There were also karts racing at the same meeting. I drove the circuit once as a stage of a rally, in about 1980 (after it has ceased operating regular events).

It was a dirt circuit with both left and right turns – not a classic speedway oval – but lots of fun to drive!

I can confirm it was where Canberry Fair is, on the northern side of Antill St. That part of Antill St didn’t exist in those days – or at least wasn’t sealled. The (dirt) track extended over the hillside to the north and east of Canberry Fair. I lived near the old Watson High and we used to ride our bikes up there to watch whenever we heard the cars fire-up – four or five times a year, from memory.

Mike Bessenger12:22 pm 18 Jul 09

So it’s on the other side of lake george? not in Canberra?

yes i’ve had a crack at that with no result, i’m a bit intrigued about the whole thing it seems to be on the far edge of everyone’s memory and i have heard many conflicting stories of where and what it was…….i have been told it was at the old starlight drive in, at canberry fair, on mt majura on the other side of lake george etc etc, all i’m sure of so far is that it did exist at some stage……

Mike Bessenger11:57 am 18 Jul 09

I have never heard of it. Maybe do up a google maps link of it, as it might also be know under a different name.

it’s a bit frustrating that the only reference to mt ginn i can find on the net is this

http://www.canberrahistory.org.au/discover.asp#chronology

which is interesting but not very helpful, i guess it is because the speedway was done and dusted long before the world wide web came along…..but surely some older canberrans have some sort of memory of the joint?

Use to go there and watch my uncle race his VW Beetle there in the early 70s when he worked at Lennock

divisions that raced there photos , driver’s names etcwas it actually on the site of canberry fair? some people i have spoken to say it was on the side of mt majura and wasn’t a speedway at all but a dirt circuit with left and right turns and went up and down the hillside…..my uncles raced there too but i was too young to remember, i do remember tralee opening tho

My father and uncle used to race there in the late 60’s. Sadly the site is now a service station and an abandoned theme park. It closed when Tralee speedway opened up. Not sure if my father still has any photos from racing there but I might have a look. What sort of information are you looking for?

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