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Time to go the girlie girl

I suffer from Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome, (AIS). AIS is one of many conditions which cause women to either produce lower levels of Oestrogen, or to not take on a feminine appearance during puberty. I’ve always had a fairly flat chest, minor facial hair growth and a ‘blokey’ appearance. To the point that many people mistake me for a man.

Now that I have an income again I’ve decided to do something about it. So to all those rioters out there I have a few questions.

First, can anyone give me recommendations on the most affordable but effective hair loss centre in Canberra? I am looking for value for money. I know some places may be cheap, but ineffective, meaning it costs more in the long run. I’m also looking for friendly staff. I don’t want to be treated like a walking ATM.

Second, I’ve decided it is time to get rid of the flat and go for the inflated. Any women have good reviews / experience of breast argumentation in Canberra? What should I expect in costs? Is it a day procedure or will I be in hospital longer?

Lastly. Is there an AIS / Intersex support group in Canberra or the region.

Thanks all for any constructive answers.

[ED - Perhaps best if the infants in the peanut gallery leave off the comments in favour of people with constructive input to make]

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36 comments for “Time to go the girlie girl”

  1. #1
    ACTing like a Mama (Troublemaker) 08:28, 09 Nov 09

    My sister had breast augmentation surgery several years ago through the CAPS clinic. From memory it cost her close to 10K and it was either day surgery or overnight only but she had to wear a special brace for six weeks and it was a pretty long recovery time for her. She really recommended the place and the surgeon, Dr Taylor. So much so, my girlfriend went in for a breast reduction and had similar good things to say about him. I think he was very good at discussing the pro and cons of the surgery while some places my sister went to just wanted her money and to sign up.

    I know three or four people that have gone through the CAPS clinic for differenet procedures and all have had a good experience of the place. I am not sure how it fits in in terms of cost (if its expensive or not) but I know they would certainly recommend it.

    Good Lucl

  2. #2
    ACTing like a Mama (Troublemaker) 08:29, 09 Nov 09

    Sorry – here is the link http://www.capsclinic.com.au/drtaylor.html

  3. #3
    bergamot (Hooligan) 09:29, 09 Nov 09

    I’m sorry I can’t help you, but wish you luck and applaude you for getting out there and doing something positive for yourself!! :-D

  4. #4
    Muttsybignuts (Anarchist) 09:35, 09 Nov 09

    Firstly, I am a bloke so I probably don’t know what I’m talking about but anyway…
    A mate of mine has had some permanent hair removal recently and, while it hurt like a bitch despite the PR suggesting otherwise, she is happy with the result and, most importantly, the hair hasn’t grown back. If you don’t get any better info from anyone else I can chase up the name of where she had it done.
    Secondly, the CAPS clinic is promoting itself as the ACTS best plastic surgeons. I wouldn’t have a clue if this is true or not, however, a while back the owner was renting his surgical theatres out for other procedures and I had to pick my wife up from there one morning. The waiting room was full of women with plaster over their noses or what looked like bandaging under their clothes around their chests. I can only assume that business was good by the amount of bruised looking people in the waiting room.
    I have also heard that it is cheaper to fly to Thailand, have the surgery and re coup in a luxury hotel than it is to have it done here in Oz. Some prefer it because they are away from everyone during the bruised and sore bit. As an aside, people usually think of Thailand and other Asian countries as a bit dirtier that here however, I can attest that their medical facilities are as clean and modern as ours ( actually better in some cases).
    Hope this helps.

  5. #5
    Lilli (Anarchist) 10:25, 09 Nov 09

    Hi streetwise – can’t comment on too much of your post, but I’ve had a few experiences with laser hair removal. I have visited two clinics quite recently and so I may not have an unequivocally balanced recommendation here, but of the two I have been to, I had quite good experiences with the clinic in Phillip (Cosmetic Laser Clinic – http://www.cosmeticlaserclinic.com.au/).

    I found them to be up front and honest in the number of appointments that may be required, and their prices were very competitive. Their explanation for the siginificant price differences is that many other clinics advertise effective hair removal in fewer sessions, however, as they acknowledged that the number of sessions required can vary drammatically (from person to person and area to be treated), they prefer to go with the lower prices to encourage people to continue treatment for best results. I was also offered a ‘top up’ appointment in between my 1st & 2nd appointment at no extra charge.

    During each session I have felt comfortable chatting to the assistants. I have not experienced any discomfort above what I feel is appropriate and overall found the process to be easily tolerable. I’d highly recommend their services, and on your first visit their consultative process is very thorough.

    Good luck with your search!

  6. #6
    misspris (Anarchist) 10:29, 09 Nov 09

    bergamot said :

    I’m sorry I can’t help you, but wish you luck and applaude you for getting out there and doing something positive for yourself!! :-D

    +1

    Good luck :D

  7. #7
    Hugh Lews (Rioter) 10:50, 09 Nov 09

    [ED - Perhaps best if the infants in the peanut gallery leave off the comments in favour of people with constructive input to make]

    LMAO

    Have you seen the other posts from streetwise?

    Elaborate. Sure. Believable? No.

  8. #8
    deezagood (Rabble Rouser) 11:17, 09 Nov 09

    Don’t even think about going anywhere but the CAPs clinic for breast enlargements – I have quite a few friends who rave about his skill (one friend has some considerable comparison experience, after having a few surgeries interstate). Apparently Dr Taylor is ‘the man’ to go to for most plastic surgeries in Canberra….

    Hair removal – I can personally vouch for Dr Gibson at 1/4 Hannah St, Deakin, 6288 1933 … not sure about faces, but he does a great job of other body parts!

  9. #9
    DarkLadyWolfMother (Picketer) 11:37, 09 Nov 09

    While they’re not specifically intersex oriented, some of the Transgender groups might help as similar ‘problems’ are encountered.

    For local groups try:
    http://www.genderrights.org.au/
    and
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NewCTN

    Fortunately, the Laser hair removal clinic I used is shut down, so I don’t have to warn you against them :)

  10. #10
    weeziepops (Anarchist) 12:45, 09 Nov 09

    That was a quick leap from almost homeless to contemplating plastic surgery!

  11. #11
    colourful sydney racing identity (Rabble Rouser) 13:51, 09 Nov 09

    hmmmn at the risk of being infantile and residing in the peanut gallery….

    A week ago you posted claiming to be ‘clean cut’ then claimed to be a woman, then when queried on it your claimed to be a hisrute woman who would not change for anyone. Now you want hair removal and breast impants.

    You wouldn’t happen to be the person who sent me the email form the Nigerian Bank who found that money in my dead relatives account would you?

  12. #12
    Muttsybignuts (Anarchist) 14:12, 09 Nov 09

    weeziepops said :

    That was a quick leap from almost homeless to contemplating plastic surgery!

    ARRGGH – you’re right! It seems like a few of us have been sucked in. Last week it was “limited savings” and contemplating homelessness, this week it is all cashed up and looking for boobs. It gives me the sh*ts when I go out of my way to offer information to someone I think is in need only to find it is all some kind of con. Very sad.

  13. #13
    dr phil (Rioter) 16:38, 09 Nov 09

    weeziepops said :

    That was a quick leap from almost homeless to contemplating plastic surgery!

    they say you get alot of money off the streets… wonder what her carboard sign says?

  14. #14
    chewy14 (Rabble Rouser) 16:52, 09 Nov 09

    Streetwise,
    even though you’re trolling, i fully support your aim to get breast enlargements into the public domain.
    Err sorry, information about breast enlargements.

  15. #15
    harley (Anarchist) 17:27, 09 Nov 09

    IOUs even… Damned apostrophe police.

  16. #16
    Mimiboo (Hooligan) 17:40, 09 Nov 09

    I go to Clear Complexions for my hair removal. They’re a bit on the expensive side (approx $110 for underarm hair removal per session), but they are very friendly and are very apologetic for administering what I would describe as the worse pain I’ve every felt in my life.

  17. #17
    streetwise (Newbie) 20:40, 09 Nov 09

    colourful sydney racing identity said :

    hmmmn at the risk of being infantile and residing in the peanut gallery….

    A week ago you posted claiming to be ‘clean cut’ then claimed to be a woman, then when queried on it your claimed to be a hisrute woman who would not change for anyone. Now you want hair removal and breast impants.

    You wouldn’t happen to be the person who sent me the email form the Nigerian Bank who found that money in my dead relatives account would you?

    Wow, you’re really mature arn’t you? Honey, you may not realise it, but there has been a lot of eveloution since you Neanderthals with your tiny pea sized brains last walked the Earth. Do you still belive the world is flat? Honey, you’ve never heard of hoping for the best, but planning for the worst? Has it never occoursed to you that some people ask questions well before they plan an acticity? Oh, that’s right, you’re clearly not capable of thinking are you?

    How old are you? 5, 6, maybe 7? Grow up. And if you can’t, I’m sure your mother told you that if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.

  18. #18
    busgirl (Anarchist) 20:48, 09 Nov 09

    …my mother told me ‘if you don’t have anything nice to say, come sit next to me’…

    …SW, did your mother ever tell you about the boy/girl who cried wolf?

  19. #19
    oiiaustralia (Newbie) 22:14, 09 Nov 09

    Organisation Intersex International has an Intersex support group.

    feel free to contact us on oiiaustralia@bigpond.com for support and some help with your questions.

    regards

    oiiaustralia

  20. #20
    Thumper (Demagogue) 22:24, 09 Nov 09

    My mother said to get things done, you’d better not mess with major Tom.

    Some truth in the matter would be nice…

  21. #21
    Deadmandrinking (Agitator) 22:35, 09 Nov 09

    Even if this is a hoax, what’s the harm in giving information? Somebody who’s reading this may find the information useful.

    That being said, having had an interesting year myself, I can tell you that circumstances can change extremely fast.

  22. #22
    Hugh Lews (Rioter) 11:45, 10 Nov 09

    Honey, you may not realise it, but there has been a lot of eveloution since you Neanderthals with your tiny pea sized brains last walked the Earth. Do you still belive the world is flat? Honey, you’ve never heard of hoping for the best, but planning for the worst?

    ——–

    IMAGINE being called honey by someone who looks like a man in a girls voice. LOL.

    Thats what I reckon prison is like….

  23. #23
    colourful sydney racing identity (Rabble Rouser) 12:18, 10 Nov 09

    Are you really surprised that people are questioning the legitimacy of your post?

    Less than two weeks ago you proclaimed that “I’ve never been a girly girl. I could not be bothered getting liposuction and a boob job”. Yet here you are suddenly stating you want hair removal and breast impalnts.

    When questioned about it you resort to insults. It has all the appearance of you being economical with the truth.

  24. #24
    Jazz (RiotACT Overlord) 12:40, 10 Nov 09

    Last warning Hugh and Colorful Sydney Racing Identity. Someone has already determined that this story has editorial merit. Add something useful or not at all.

  25. #25
    Hugh Lews (Rioter) 12:58, 10 Nov 09

    “Someone”

    Ok. ok.

  26. #26
    Clown Killer (Veteran Rioter) 13:35, 10 Nov 09

    Please dont go knocking Neanderthals. Send a day in their mocassins before you say nasty things about them.

  27. #27
    colourful sydney racing identity (Rabble Rouser) 14:04, 10 Nov 09

    Hmmmn, okay I will add something useful.

    IF you have seriously changed your view that much in less than two weeks I sincerely hope that you get some counselling before undergoing any radical cosmetic surgery. If.

  28. #28
    Special G (Veteran Rioter) 17:58, 10 Nov 09

    dr phil said :

    weeziepops said :

    That was a quick leap from almost homeless to contemplating plastic surgery!

    they say you get alot of money off the streets… wonder what her carboard sign says?

    Easy – will get bigger breasts and display them for money.

  29. #29
    streetwise (Newbie) 17:58, 10 Nov 09

    Thumper said :

    My mother said to get things done, you’d better not mess with major Tom.

    Some truth in the matter would be nice…

    Look, what possible motive would I have for lying? It’s not like I’m asking for your banking details. It’s not like I’m trying to scam anything. I haven’t even posted anything dramatically controversial that would have people at each other troll fashion. I mean I can think of a dozen topics that would be more worthy of arguing over (please DON’T argue over them or if would want to, go start a new thread) like:

    Tod Carney is a looser, what do you think?
    All rugby players are either rapists or wannabe rapists.
    Liberal voters are a pack of ……
    Cyclists are a pack of …. who don’t obey road rules.
    Car drivers are a bunch of….. who should be forced to drive at 40 km/h.
    Based on the people in this forum, everyone in Canberra has the worst manners in the nation.

    You get the idea?
    Asking for resources in the event that I become homeless just does not rate it. Neither does asking about hair removal, breast enhancement and AIS support. I mean if I WANTED to get people all fired up I’d use language like ‘tits’ instead of breasts. The lack of logic and thinking of some people astounds me. Quite obviously some of you have never changed your mind, never had second thoughts, never changed your lifestyle due to a change in income.

    Really how some of you jump to these conclusions is beyond me. Either you have no respect and no manners, or you are deliberately doing this to be trolls.

    Finally, before you all jump down my throat for responding in kind to the idiots here, on the previous thread I DID make the point of using the “contact us” option to request that the comments insulting me be removed first. The management chose to do nothing. So I chose to respond. I mean, come on, what do you expect? A bunch of immature idiots have essentially defamed me for no good reason, based on PURE conjecture. If you think I’m going to lay down and let people walk over me, think again. If you people want to play dirty, expect a response.

    Now, to the people with useful information, once again, thank you very much. Thank your for your consideration, time, knowledge and most of all for your ability to think with an open and level headed mind.

  30. #30
    SpellingAndGrammar (Hooligan) 19:07, 10 Nov 09

    I agree with the view that many people may find the information posted here very useful.

    If anyone is considering cosmetic surgery, you need to do 2 things:
    1) Ask the surgeon how many times in the past year they have performed this specific type of surgery (and hope like hell it’s more than double digits); and
    2) Ask for their scrapbook which shows before and after shots without the funny tampering with light and distance.

    And for those of you thinking of a nice holiday in Thailand – same – be very, very careful. You would want to check out their level of regulation of such things first, including what happens if it is botched.

  31. #31
    I-filed (Veteran Rioter) 19:29, 10 Nov 09

    Girliegirl you’re taking the wrong tack altogether here.

    Hair removal: waxing works well and won’t cost big fees – and you can do anywhere except your back yourself.

    Invest in really good make-up, good haircuts, stay slim, wear nice clothes.

    Don’t get breast augmentation: it won’t make you happy. If all the above tick off, then just rely on “chicken fillets” for a while. If the illustion of big breasts makes you feel good, make do with that until all the rest of your life is in good shape.

    Lots of boyish women are regarded as very beautiful.

    I lunched today with a successful senior public servant who is both boyish and hirsute. I mean, really hairy, has to wax a moustache. She has high self-esteem and looks fantastic – as I outlined above, she has a great (short) haircut, holds herself proudly, and her androgyny is a fantastic look.

    She isn’t self-obsessed, is doing interesting things with her life, and has a lot to talk about.

  32. #32
    Thumper (Demagogue) 20:20, 10 Nov 09

    Oh, I have nothing against you, however, you must admit that, and plenty of others have commented upon this more critically than me, you have come across with some strange questions that have appeared to be almost mutually exclusive, if not trollish.

    You will also note than in one of your posts I did put forward a solution.

    However, all the best.

  33. #33
    busgirl (Anarchist) 21:43, 10 Nov 09

    SW, this is just a suggestion to help you extract the information you need…the posters on this website have a myriad of tit-bits of information about any subject your mind can possibly imagine…if you really want their advice…and I mean really…then maybe you should try the ‘you catch more flies with honey than vinegar’ approach.

    Due to the RA posters not knowing you from a bar of soap, all they have to judge you by is your recent posts. Getting narky at people who are merely questioning your motives will not help your cause. If you notice that people are taking you the wrong way don’t assume they are being judgemental…maybe all it means is that you need to express yourself better.

    Good luck.

  34. #34
    colourful sydney racing identity (Rabble Rouser) 09:11, 11 Nov 09

    Hey, nothing personal but step back for a minute and see how it looks within two weeks you go from about to being homeless and not changing your appearance for anyone to suddenly being employed and thinking about spending however may thousands of dollars on cosmetice surgery to effect a look that 9 days ago you didn’t want.

    In all sincerity, IF you are for real, you should really seek some counselling as this is an extremely radical thing to do. IF you have just scored a job, in what from what you described is a tough job market for you, perhaps you should be saving the money – IF you have been happy with your body for 37 years (give or take nine days) why rush it now?

    On a positive note at least your posts are all regularly making it into the ‘most commented section’.

  35. #35
    stace8383 (Troublemaker) 19:56, 20 Nov 09

    streetwise said :

    Wow, you’re really mature arn’t you? Honey, you may not realise it, but there has been a lot of eveloution since you Neanderthals with your tiny pea sized brains last walked the Earth. Do you still belive the world is flat? Honey, you’ve never heard of hoping for the best, but planning for the worst? Has it never occoursed to you that some people ask questions well before they plan an acticity? Oh, that’s right, you’re clearly not capable of thinking are you?

    How old are you? 5, 6, maybe 7? Grow up. And if you can’t, I’m sure your mother told you that if you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say anything.

    Ohh ouch. Do people really say “honey” like that?? Painful. And, just a tip, most people use Google for these kind of questions. Putting it out in the public domain just invites ridicule, as you’ve no doubt noticed. Good luck.

  36. #36
    WonderfulWorld (Rioter) 23:03, 15 Jan 10

    SW – Interesting blog so far, beautiful grammar and spelling. Let me guess starts with R ends in R. Total 8 letters?


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