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ACTION network changes for 2012

By johnboy - 22 March 2012 43

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Our bus network has announced their tweaks to the system for this year.

The new bus network is expected to commence on Monday 28 May 2012. All timetables will change as a result of the new network. Timetables are currently being updated and will be available two weeks prior to the commencement of the new network from the ACTION website, MyWay Centres, Woden and Tuggeranong Bus Stations and Canberra Connect Shopfronts.

The new network, Network 12, is the first step along the way to delivering the improvements outlined in the Transport for Canberra Strategy. This round of changes will improve the current network and further planning is underway for a more extensive review.

The Greens have expressed some pleasure with the direction this is going.

What’s Your opinion?


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ACTION network changes for 2012
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Dilandach 10:31 am
22 Mar 12
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What I wouldn’t give for a decent service out to fairbairn and back.

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KB1971 11:13 am
22 Mar 12
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Kewl, Monday the 28th, ride the bike.

The last timetable change was a clusterf%#k, not so much as Actions fault but there was an extraordinarly amount of people who just didnt know about it despite it being advertise extensively.

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bd84 12:45 pm
22 Mar 12
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Network 12, recycle the crap network 11 and add in a few redirections that overall means it’s really just as crap as the networks of the last 20 years.

Until they rip the current network up and start again from scratch, there will be no incentive to use the service. I’m sure they will keep pumping out routes that go nowhere quickly in future years too.

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johnboy 12:48 pm
22 Mar 12
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if only they would go quickly!

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madamcholet 1:32 pm
22 Mar 12
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Last week, after leaving work slightly later, I accidentally boarded the wrong bus. I have to admit that with my normal bus I tend to follow my other bus compatriots and take no notice of what number it is. Because I was without my bus compatriots and a bus turned up saying it went to my suburb I got on – I thought it was the later version of my normal chauffer driven vehicle that I was waiting for – happened to come at exactly the right time. I DID ask the driver if he went down the Monaro Highway and he said that although it was the first time he had done the run, he definitely thought he would be going this way – he even picked up a sheet that looked like the route.

Lo and behold, after following my usual bus’ direction, we veered off and went towards Woden. No worries I thought, travelling through Woden is ok and proceeded to check my trusty smartphone for what bus I might actually be on. Turns out I was on one that was going to take 35 minutes longer to get to my normal destination than the one I had planned to get on.

Apart from being annoyed with myself for not checking properly and with the driver for giving me a bum steer, I was totally amazed that anyone actually catches this extraordinary bus. I could not describe the higgledy-piggledy journey that we took. It was truly bizarre. and the strange thing was that there were people on the bus from the start who also got off at my stop or later who could have gotten the much more efficient bus I should have taken – which is still a 45 minute trip at least.

So that’s what I see as the problem. In my area, there are efficient buses such as the one I get twice a week, and there are vastly inefficient buses. It has got to be admitted that the buses in Canberra can’t be all things to all people. Bus stops should be located on major roads and not up the back of a curly wurly street that is going to add 10 minutes to everyone’s trip. and if they have to continue these strange bus routes, then for heavens sake, just make them connectors to places like Tuggers, Woden, City and Belco – not going all the way up to Belco in one trip. But make those connections run very frequently using midi buses so they are more efficient and can get around the streets better. The bus I ended up on was by no means even near full, where as the one I normally get is quite full by the t ime it gets to Russell.

The way Canberra is laid out is just not conducive to running services like the one I was on. I left Sydney because I thought I was spending too much of my time stuck on a bus to go 12 kilometres each way. I’m shocked to know that some commuters in Canberra are spending over an hour one way to get to or from work.

They could also very much consider actually producing new buses rather than just talking about producing them. The old buses that I have to travel on (as the school kides seem to get the new ones in my area), are atrocious – if the heating is on you can hardly breath and if someone opens a window you get blown away if you are at the back of the bus – might sound like just a whinge, but decently maintained buses that get people to their destinations efficiently will be an attraction.

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Primal 2:06 pm
22 Mar 12
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madamcholet said :

Bus stops should be located on major roads and not up the back of a curly wurly street that is going to add 10 minutes to everyone’s trip. and if they have to continue these strange bus routes, then for heavens sake, just make them connectors to places like Tuggers, Woden, City and Belco – not going all the way up to Belco in one trip.

Amen to that and the rest. There’s a bus that goes past my place that goes from Tuggeranong to Woden… via Theodore.

Any bus that wanders off into the suburbs should be focused on getting people in and out of the nearest town centre or other major hub (Kippax, Erindale, etc.).

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Keijidosha 3:09 pm
22 Mar 12
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Primal said :

Any bus that wanders off into the suburbs should be focused on getting people in and out of the nearest town centre or other major hub (Kippax, Erindale, etc.).

We had a feeder/trunk network like that in place during the 90’s. ACTION switched to the current ‘rapid’ one-bus system after feedback suggested patrons would prefer to sit on one bus for an entire journey rather than deal with layovers in town centres.

What we currently have is not ideal, but in my experience ACTION refuse to even acknowledge public suggestions on how it might be improved.

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puggy 3:32 pm
22 Mar 12
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Keijidosha said :

We had a feeder/trunk network like that in place during the 90’s. ACTION switched to the current ‘rapid’ one-bus system after feedback suggested patrons would prefer to sit on one bus for an entire journey rather than deal with layovers in town centres.

This is an honest question – and I understand the experience can vary wildly depending on where you live – but how can you say the current system doesn’t have a trunk network? The 300 series buses (the Blue Line) run from Belco, through Civic, Woden and Tuggeranong in the most direct manner possible. Each 3xx bus then veers off into different suburbs after each end. You can get from Banks to Belconnen on the one bus. There is also the Red Rapid route for Gungahlin folk.

Primal said :

Amen to that and the rest. There’s a bus that goes past my place that goes from Tuggeranong to Woden… via Theodore.

Uh.. yeah… and there’s are also a bus that leaves every 5 minutes that will go from Tuggeranong to Woden via Athlon i.e.directly. The bus that goes through Theodore isn’t so you can get from Tuggerenong to Woden, it’s so Theodore people can get to Tuggeranong or Woden.

I know it’s a pretty bad system overall, but it ain’t as bad as many people think. Take some time and look at the network map.

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damien haas 3:35 pm
22 Mar 12
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Now ive heard it all, a person who doesnt bother to check what bus they are getting on, blames the bus driver, and ACTION, and everyone but herself for her trip taking too long!

Keijidosha said :

What we currently have is not ideal, but in my experience ACTION refuse to even acknowledge public suggestions on how it might be improved.

Timetabling and route design are no longer an ACTION responsibility – the act gov have taken these functions back and placed them in TAMS.

Not only do they ignore suggestions and feedback from the public, they also ignore feedback from their own drivers. I know several drivers who provided quite detailed suggestions on how to improve services in Gungahlin. Listened to and fobbed off.

You have to understand how the actgov collects feedback: ‘First i make a decision, then I consult’. That is a direct quote from Katy Gallagher from a firsthand source.

While the increase in frequency on the main transport corridors is welcome, there really needs to be a focus on improving local services.

Im also curious to see how the weekend services operate. Considering some buses simply dont turn up for various reasons, perhaps TAMS have come up with some way to magic up extra drivers who deign to work weekends.

Id also like to see the peak hour extended to at least 7PM.

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geetee 3:46 pm
22 Mar 12
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Everytime Action announces ‘improvements’ to bus services, I shudder to think of the devil in the detail they will eventually release..

The current overview of changes to Weston Creek services hardly makes sense at all..

And I am still waiting for them to keep their promise (from 2010 – or perhaps even earlier) that my suburb’s M-F service would ‘shortly’ be extended to weekends..

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ramblingted 3:49 pm
22 Mar 12
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There’s a tram stop 20 metres from my front door which gets me to the middle of the city in 6 minutes…one of the reasons I moved to Melbourne :)

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geetee 3:50 pm
22 Mar 12
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Oh – and everytime the Greens claim responsibility for something – I also shudder..

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madamcholet 3:55 pm
22 Mar 12
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damien haas said :

Now ive heard it all, a person who doesnt bother to check what bus they are getting on, blames the bus driver, and ACTION, and everyone but herself for her trip taking too long!

Keijidosha said :

The driver did tell me he was going a different way to the way we actually went – yes my mistake with the number, but you would have thought the driver would know the names of the roads he was going on – especially roads such as THE MONARO HIGHWAY & ADELAIDE AVENUE – pretty major ones.

Apart from diverting through Woden it was almost a duplicate of my trip but half an hour longer – with strange detours through god knows what streets to let off about two people – half an hour to do that. It just can’t be financially viable to run services that try to go everywhere.

The best bus route I have ever travelled in Canberra is the 111 or 11. First and last thing you can catch this from Civic, through Woden and then to Tuggers via some suburbs. During the day you can’t get this full service and you have to change at Woden if you want to go further. Makes sense.

I recall a few years ago now they implemented Xpresso routes – and guess what – they took half an hour longer than the normal 300 bus routes. They just don’t get it.

I have never been on a bus in Canberra at any time of day that is populated by oldies – and I have had to get places using the day time buses from time to time. It’s mostly drug addicts on their way to their clinic and school kids on their way home that I have seen. So I don’t know why there is this thought that we need buses to transport people all over the suburbs. Points towards park and ride systems rather than magical mystery tours. Most people use the bus to save parking fees and put up with the time factor as part of that. I don’t think people mind parking their car at a spot and catching a bus – it’s the only thing that’s going to work in Canberra.

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Stevian 3:59 pm
22 Mar 12
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damien haas said :

Now ive heard it all, a person who doesnt bother to check what bus they are getting on, blames the bus driver, and ACTION, and everyone but herself for her trip taking too long!

Keijidosha said :

If you would bother to actually read, they blame themselves,as well as everyone else. It’s conspiracy you know

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geetee 4:07 pm
22 Mar 12
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madamcholet said :

I don’t know why there is this thought that we need buses to transport people all over the suburbs. Points towards park and ride systems rather than magical mystery tours. Most people use the bus to save parking fees

And the people that don’t drive a car do what exactly?

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