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ACTION network changes for 2012

By johnboy - 22 March 2012 43

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Our bus network has announced their tweaks to the system for this year.

The new bus network is expected to commence on Monday 28 May 2012. All timetables will change as a result of the new network. Timetables are currently being updated and will be available two weeks prior to the commencement of the new network from the ACTION website, MyWay Centres, Woden and Tuggeranong Bus Stations and Canberra Connect Shopfronts.

The new network, Network 12, is the first step along the way to delivering the improvements outlined in the Transport for Canberra Strategy. This round of changes will improve the current network and further planning is underway for a more extensive review.

The Greens have expressed some pleasure with the direction this is going.

What’s Your opinion?


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ACTION network changes for 2012
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JazzyJess 4:17 pm
22 Mar 12
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I catch the red rapid (a misnomer if ever there was one) from Gungahlin Marketplace to the city most days and it takes forever. Despite the sign saying limited stops it stops at every single one and crawls along Northbourne. There really needs to be a dedicated bus/car pool lane along Northbourne. That said, reducing it to two lanes for cars probably won’t help the situation.

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Keijidosha 4:25 pm
22 Mar 12
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puggy said :

This is an honest question – and I understand the experience can vary wildly depending on where you live – but how can you say the current system doesn’t have a trunk network? The 300 series buses (the Blue Line) run from Belco, through Civic, Woden and Tuggeranong in the most direct manner possible. Each 3xx bus then veers off into different suburbs after each end. You can get from Banks to Belconnen on the one bus. There is also the Red Rapid route for Gungahlin folk.

Sorry I should have been clearer. The previous network had a discrete trunk system (333) that ran only between the interchanges, with a feeder network in each satellite area that collected and deposited patrons at interchanges. So there was no direct route between say, MacGregor and the City – you had to switch buses at Belconnen. The current network is what I would call ”branched” – buses running on trunk lines before branching into suburban areas.

I’m not suggesting one type of network is better, I was just pointing out to Primal that we have had a trunk/feeder network before and it was deemed unsuitable.

My only real gripe with our current network is the mess on Northbourne Avenue every morning, and I’ll set a cat amongst the pidgeons by stating my desire for a dedicated bus lane, or at least a T3.

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puggy 4:59 pm
22 Mar 12
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Keijidosha said :

Sorry I should have been clearer. The previous network had a discrete trunk system (333) that ran only between the interchanges….

My only real gripe with our current network is the mess on Northbourne Avenue every morning, and I’ll set a cat amongst the pidgeons by stating my desire for a dedicated bus lane, or at least a T3.

Ah yes, the ol’ 333 days, back when a seven year old could catch four buses a day alone, and no one would be screaming “think of the children!”. Northbourne is a mess generally… which is why I mostly cycle!

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puggy 5:04 pm
22 Mar 12
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JazzyJess said :

I catch the red rapid (a misnomer if ever there was one) from Gungahlin Marketplace to the city most days and it takes forever. Despite the sign saying limited stops it stops at every single one and crawls along Northbourne. There really needs to be a dedicated bus/car pool lane along Northbourne. That said, reducing it to two lanes for cars probably won’t help the situation.

That’s not really ACTION’s fault though is it? And how long is forever and how does it compare to a trip in a car? The times I’ve caught even the 5x buses – outside of peak hours – that go the same route (without limited stops), it’s been quite a quick trip. Northbourne is a difficult mess. What was that old proposed road behind Ainslie? :)

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damien haas 5:50 pm
22 Mar 12
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JazzyJess said :

I catch the red rapid (a misnomer if ever there was one) from Gungahlin Marketplace to the city most days and it takes forever. Despite the sign saying limited stops it stops at every single one and crawls along Northbourne. There really needs to be a dedicated bus/car pool lane along Northbourne. That said, reducing it to two lanes for cars probably won’t help the situation.

Its one of the most logical first routes for light rail in the whole of the ACT.

However, dont think the current Northbourne upgrade study will report good news – its skewed to recommend more buses over light rail.

Read ACT Light Rails view on this here: http://www.actlightrail.info/2011/11/northbourne-light-rail-spin-v-reality.html

Damien Haas
Chair, ACT Light Rail

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Bussie 9:29 pm
22 Mar 12
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JazzyJess said :

I catch the red rapid (a misnomer if ever there was one) from Gungahlin Marketplace to the city most days and it takes forever. Despite the sign saying limited stops it stops at every single one and crawls along Northbourne. There really needs to be a dedicated bus/car pool lane along Northbourne. That said, reducing it to two lanes for cars probably won’t help the situation.

Wrong. Stops the 200 stops at on Northbourne are the ones south of Macarthur Avenue, south of Antill/Mouat Sts and at Phillip Avenue for a total of 3 stops each way on Northbourne, which means it skips 7 Northbourne stops northbound and 8 southbound.

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Gungahlin Al 9:33 pm
22 Mar 12
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JazzyJess said :

I catch the red rapid (a misnomer if ever there was one) from Gungahlin Marketplace to the city most days and it takes forever. Despite the sign saying limited stops it stops at every single one and crawls along Northbourne. There really needs to be a dedicated bus/car pool lane along Northbourne. That said, reducing it to two lanes for cars probably won’t help the situation.

Indeed. Puggy is right though – the Northbourne mess isn’t Action’s creation, and they can’t go any other way. It is a route where only fully segregated public transport will solve the problem. Fortunately after stacks of lobbying by many community groups (through several transport ministers with no vision for an actual solution), there finally are plans to do just that. Or plans to talk about it some more anyway. The key thing I think was that Katy responded to our requests to put transport planning back with the other planning functions. Previously, amalgamating transport design and delivery was a seriously retrograde step that held us up by several years.

With regard to whether the changes are responding to issues raised, we (GCC and Gungahlin residents) have been asking for:

*Additional Flemington Rd services – every 10 minutes instead of 15 now – tick.
*Additional 200 stop at Flemington and Well Station – tick
*Flemington Rd weekend service (that’s right there isn’t one at all now) – tick.
*Services for Bonner, Crace and Casey – tick.
*Straighten out the temporary zig zag through Franklin back streets now suburb is complete – tick for weekends anyway. On weekdays the 58 will not service Franklin or Mitchell any more! That’s a big change. Given the chronic overcrowding on all the Flemington Rd services from Harrison onwards, the 58 might become the route of choice for Harrison commuters.

Of course the question is whether the improvements have come at the expense of other aspects of the service. People in those areas will need to answer that.

Another thing that ACTION could do to improve their services at zero cost is to immediately stop forcing people on crowded buses to exit by the front door when a back door is available. The whole squeeze past everyone deal is a complete pain and puts people off.

The big change will be the next one where we are promised a complete rethink. This should be in line with the findings from all the consultation done over the last two years, which advised a restructure to more of a hub and spoke design with true express links between the hubs, and a greater incorporation of the new park’n’rides.

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Innovation 7:27 am
23 Mar 12
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I think the ACT Government are very slowly getting it. Let passengers get on buses at stops along main public transport corridors with direct routes. Passengers can catch suburban buses, drive, be driven, cycle or walk out of the suburbs to these stops. Suburban bus routes that travel around several suburbs before going to and from interchanges are too irregular and take too long to be viable.

As for light rail, I still don’t get it. Wouldn’t dedicated transitways for buses be a good first step for testing the viability for light rail in the future? I would have thought that retrofitting light rail to these transit ways wouldn’t be too expensive.

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HenryBG 8:28 am
23 Mar 12
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damien haas said :

Its one of the most logical first routes for light rail in the whole of the ACT.

However, dont think the current Northbourne upgrade study will report good news – its skewed to recommend more buses over light rail.

Read ACT Light Rails view on this here: http://www.actlightrail.info/2011/11/northbourne-light-rail-spin-v-reality.html

Damien Haas
Chair, ACT Light Rail

Yes, it’s incredibly disappointing that in the year 2012, Canberra still hasn’t put in the light rail it needs.
Dickson to Civic, Civic to Woden, and Civic to the Airport.
The Taxi scam at Canberra airport is an international embarrassment.

You fly into Sydney, go down two escalators, hop on a train, 2 stops and you’re in the City.
Canberra could have the same convenience if they just stopped wasting time on “Human Rights Commissioners” and Human Rights compliant prisons which turn out far less safe for inmates & staff than normal prisons are.

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HenryBG 8:37 am
23 Mar 12
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madamcholet said :

I was totally amazed that anyone actually catches this extraordinary bus. I could not describe the higgledy-piggledy journey that we took. It was truly bizarre.

I hear you – I have similarly made the mistake of thinking I could use a bus to get to and from meetings and jobs in the Manuka/Kingston/Fyshwick/Barton/Forrest area.
The astounding twists and turns these buses take to turn a 10-minute trip into 60 minutes is, as you say, truly bizarre.
The 80 takes the cake. I think it took 40 minutes to get from one part of Fyshwick to another. Why anybody would catch these buses is a mystery (and they are mostly empty from what I can see).

Now, if I’m going anywhere inner Southside, unless I can walk there from Albert Hall (The 300 service from Civic or Woden is excellent for that) I don’t even contemplate catching a bus.

In fact, last time I was driving through Griffith, I saw a bloke standing at a bus stop and took pity on him – he was looking forward to a 60-minute trip to get him to Woden, so I gave him a lift there saving him the pain of these horrendous bus routes.

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jase! 9:12 am
23 Mar 12
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damien haas said :

Its one of the most logical first routes for light rail in the whole of the ACT.

However, dont think the current Northbourne upgrade study will report good news – its skewed to recommend more buses over light rail.

Read ACT Light Rails view on this here: http://www.actlightrail.info/2011/11/northbourne-light-rail-spin-v-reality.html

Damien Haas
Chair, ACT Light Rail

while i agree that something needs to be done to prioritise public transport down northbourne as a proponent of light rail I’d love to see how the cost of it would justify it over installing a T-Way type lane (and hopefully bike lane) down the middle of the traffic islands. A single T-way lane that is tidal flow based seems to be a much more flexible option and wouldn’t cost a mint. However if you can provide solid reasoning for how light rail would stack up both on a functional level and cost level I’d love to hear it

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markus_k 9:38 am
23 Mar 12
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Glad to hear there’s been some re-working of the Weston Creek services. As it stands the two buses that go through Duffy leave every hour in offpeak/weekends. Which isn’t an issue in itself, except for the fact they both leave Woden from the same stop at exactly the same time, which really defeats the purpose of having two routes through the same suburb.

Also good there is no mention of rehashing the morning and afternoon express bus to/from the Creek as well, as it is a very popular route.

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JessP 11:13 am
23 Mar 12
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I can cope with the multiple stops in my suburb to get to the Interchange(s) but its all the bloody stops after the interchanges that make the trip seem excessively long.

Love to see some buses that are express between interchanges on the 300 routes. (Yes, I know about express service between interchanges – Woden to Belconnen etc – they occur 3 times a day each way if you are lucky). Would make the whole travel bewteen interchanges during the peak more appealing.

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geetee 11:35 am
23 Mar 12
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markus_k said :

Glad to hear there’s been some re-working of the Weston Creek services. As it stands the two buses that go through Duffy leave every hour in offpeak/weekends. Which isn’t an issue in itself, except for the fact they both leave Woden from the same stop at exactly the same time, which really defeats the purpose of having two routes through the same suburb.

Also good there is no mention of rehashing the morning and afternoon express bus to/from the Creek as well, as it is a very popular route.

Totally agree with the 25/28 issue in Duffy. Suggested to ACTION a few years back that shifting the departure time of one of these would provide a virtual 30min service and that – in the case that one bus didn’t show up – most Holder/Duffy passengers would have sufficient time to walk to the alternative stop. But it hasn’t happened yet.

In the last major shift they WERE going to change the 725 peak hour express to only being a Cooleman Court to Civic direct service but thankfully enough passengers complained and they reverted back to the existing route (and increased it from 1 service to 2).

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JazzyJess 11:49 am
23 Mar 12
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Gungahlin Al and Puggy you are both right, the congestion on Northbourne is not the fault of Action but their (mostly) crappy services don’t help. Bussie, there may only be 3 red rapid stops along Northbourne but I promise you the bus still stops at every single stop regardless of whether or not it is supposed to. Bring on the light rail!

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