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Alleged dog mutilating teen to face court this morning

By 22 February 2012 116

A 16-year-old Northside boy will face the ACT Childrens Court this morning (Wednesday, February 22) charged with aggravated cruelty to an animal causing death.

Police will allege the youth killed at least three dogs by setting them on fire and then dismembering them. The remains of three dogs were located by police in a vacant grass area yesterday afternoon.

A search warrant was conducted yesterday at the youth’s home where a number of evidentiary items were located. The youth was arrested at the conclusion of the search warrant and taken to the ACT Watch House where he was charged.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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116 Responses to Alleged dog mutilating teen to face court this morning
#1
buzz8199:16 am, 22 Feb 12

Wow, that is pretty disturbing.

Que the comments about serial killers, hanging the youth and dismembering them.

They are a sick bastard.

#2
vet1119:19 am, 22 Feb 12

Good God.

There are just no words. I don’t say this very much, but there really is no hope for someone like this – euthanise him before he does further damage.

You scummy little f***wit, I hope someone ends your miserable existence.

#3
Thumper9:23 am, 22 Feb 12

You really have to wonder what goes through the minds of these people?

#4
SnapperJack9:25 am, 22 Feb 12

Look, I know I might be expressing an unpopular view here but could we all please show a bit of restraint before Rioters begin jumping overboard? Pouring vitriol onto this young man will help nobody and might very well unfairly influence the course of justice in this case.

#5
schmeah9:31 am, 22 Feb 12

Punishments for people who torture or neglect animals are notoriously lax .. she/he/they will get a slap on the wrist and be allowed to own animals from here to eternity.

#6
EvanJames9:34 am, 22 Feb 12

If the “justice” this “person” receives doesn’t reflect public sentiment about cases like this, then we have cause to doubt our justice system. I don’t care about any “mitigating” circumstances, because there can be none.

#7
TheDancingDjinn9:52 am, 22 Feb 12

buzz819 said :

Wow, that is pretty disturbing.

Que the comments about serial killers, hanging the youth and dismembering them.

They are a sick bastard.

While it may not indicate “serial killer” it does most certainly point to the fact there is something really wrong with this kid. He really needs to be assessed mentaly to find out why he would have the urge to do this to animals.

#8
Thumper9:54 am, 22 Feb 12

EvanJames said :

If the “justice” this “person” receives doesn’t reflect public sentiment about cases like this, then we have cause to doubt our justice system. I don’t care about any “mitigating” circumstances, because there can be none.

EJ is correct.

There are no mitigating circumstances whatsoever.

One does not burn and dismember dogs because they had a sad upbringing.

Just aside from that, does it appear to any one that we are seeing more and more examples of animal cruelty, or does it just appear that way due to greater reporting?

#9
Zeital9:59 am, 22 Feb 12

Hearing about this stuff just makes me sick. Hope this little s*** gets locked up, I can only guess at how much pain the families of the dogs feel…..

#10
Jethro10:20 am, 22 Feb 12

This may be one of the most disturbing crimes I have read about on this site.

#11
VYBerlinaV8_is_back10:24 am, 22 Feb 12

Absolutely disgusting. I hope this little prick gets sent away for a long time. There are no excuses for this kind of behaviour.

#12
Jim Jones11:04 am, 22 Feb 12

Thumper said :

EvanJames said :

If the “justice” this “person” receives doesn’t reflect public sentiment about cases like this, then we have cause to doubt our justice system. I don’t care about any “mitigating” circumstances, because there can be none.

EJ is correct.

There are no mitigating circumstances whatsoever.

One does not burn and dismember dogs because they had a sad upbringing.

Just aside from that, does it appear to any one that we are seeing more and more examples of animal cruelty, or does it just appear that way due to greater reporting?

Sadly, I think that it’s just greater reporting which is bringing it to the public eye.

On the whole ‘serial killer’s begin by torturing animals thing’; I was talking to a criminologist the other day (as you do) and brought up the issue. She told me that the whole thing started when there was a study done of sociopaths, and the study revealed a significant proportion (something like 25-30%) of sociopaths who admitted torturing animals (in one way or another) when they were young. The study identified this as significant, and it entered into the public mind (largely through representations in popular media that picked up on the trope).

Later research, however, questioned the findings of the initial study, and conducted more thorough research, including segments of the population that weren’t sociopaths. Apparently there’s no significant difference between sociopaths and non-sociopaths when it comes to torturing animals.

#13
54-1111:36 am, 22 Feb 12

Jim Jones said :

Thumper said :

EvanJames said :

If the “justice” this “person” receives doesn’t reflect public sentiment about cases like this, then we have cause to doubt our justice system. I don’t care about any “mitigating” circumstances, because there can be none.

EJ is correct.

There are no mitigating circumstances whatsoever.

One does not burn and dismember dogs because they had a sad upbringing.

Just aside from that, does it appear to any one that we are seeing more and more examples of animal cruelty, or does it just appear that way due to greater reporting?

Sadly, I think that it’s just greater reporting which is bringing it to the public eye.

On the whole ‘serial killer’s begin by torturing animals thing’; I was talking to a criminologist the other day (as you do) and brought up the issue. She told me that the whole thing started when there was a study done of sociopaths, and the study revealed a significant proportion (something like 25-30%) of sociopaths who admitted torturing animals (in one way or another) when they were young. The study identified this as significant, and it entered into the public mind (largely through representations in popular media that picked up on the trope).

Later research, however, questioned the findings of the initial study, and conducted more thorough research, including segments of the population that weren’t sociopaths. Apparently there’s no significant difference between sociopaths and non-sociopaths when it comes to torturing animals.

There’s always someone who ruins a thoroughly enjoyable public hanging.

#14
EvanJames11:54 am, 22 Feb 12

54-11 said :

There’s always someone who ruins a thoroughly enjoyable public hanging.

I don’t care about the serial killer thing. I care that he attracted dogs to him, probably by calling them, and then set fire to them, and watched them burn alive.

That’s what I care about, and if this piece of manure was in front of me, I’d deal with him myself. If the law doesn’t, it will be just another disappointing failure of the system that is meant to stop people from meting out their version of justice.

#15
NoImRight11:57 am, 22 Feb 12

EvanJames said :

If the “justice” this “person” receives doesn’t reflect public sentiment about cases like this, then we have cause to doubt our justice system. I don’t care about any “mitigating” circumstances, because there can be none.

Not coming down on either side here but should sentences “reflect public sentiment”? Isnt that getting a little close to lynch mobs style? Sentences should reflect all details brought out in the trial not the knee jerk reaction of the few based on edited highlights.

And no Im not defending this person at all, seems a pretty vile action to me.

#16
JazzyJess12:13 pm, 22 Feb 12

This young man needs an immediate psychiatric assessment. Regardless of whether or not the serial killer/animal abuser link is a myth, he presents a huge danger to the wider community and their pets. My heart breaks for those poor dogs and their owners. Why did it take so long to catch this kid if he’s been at it for months (as is implied in the second CT article)?????

#17
Thumper12:16 pm, 22 Feb 12

he attracted dogs to him, probably by calling them, and then set fire to them, and watched them burn alive

Think about that for a second.

And then let it sink in.

#18
Disinformation12:25 pm, 22 Feb 12

JazzyJess said :

This young man needs an immediate psychiatric assessment. Regardless of whether or not the serial killer/animal abuser link is a myth, he presents a huge danger to the wider community and their pets.

The immediate evidence would suggest that he is a danger to dogs only.

Your immediate assumption that he is a danger to anything else is based on unsubstanciated conjecture, fueled by the ingestion of far too much non scientific information and general ignorance.

I just want him horsewhipped.
I’ll provide the whip and the expertise.
The effectiveness of community action is far far underappreciated.

#19
Merle12:27 pm, 22 Feb 12

Jim Jones said :

Just aside from that, does it appear to any one that we are seeing more and more examples of animal cruelty, or does it just appear that way due to greater reporting?

Sadly, I think that it’s just greater reporting which is bringing it to the public eye.

Why ‘sadly’? More reporting and a higher profile is a good thing, certainly better than letting cruelty cases fly under the radar. The more awareness there is and the more community involvement in animal welfare, the better.

#20
VYBerlinaV8_is_back12:35 pm, 22 Feb 12

Thumper said :

he attracted dogs to him, probably by calling them, and then set fire to them, and watched them burn alive

Think about that for a second.

And then let it sink in.

And this is exactly the point. Forget what he may or may not become in the future, the legal system has to deal with what he has actually done.

#21
BethiePrice12:54 pm, 22 Feb 12

He should be charged with 3 lots of aggravated cruelty.
If he’s in Children’ Court, will his parents be charged as well? Given they are responsible for him and his actions until he reaches 18?

#22
BethiePrice12:57 pm, 22 Feb 12

BethiePrice said :

He should be charged with 3 lots of aggravated cruelty.
If he’s in Children’ Court, will his parents be charged as well? Given they are responsible for him and his actions until he reaches 18?

Ooh good he’s been done for 2.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/killing-someone-on-accused-teens-bucket-list-20120222-1tmx4.html

#23
AndrewW1:07 pm, 22 Feb 12

SnapperJack said :

Look, I know I might be expressing an unpopular view here but could we all please show a bit of restraint before Rioters begin jumping overboard? Pouring vitriol onto this young man will help nobody and might very well unfairly influence the course of justice in this case.

What a strange issue for you to leap to the defence of…

Would you be urging the same level of restraint if the alleged perpetrator was a woman, refugee, or latte-sipping lefty?

#24
Chop711:15 pm, 22 Feb 12

why is he noted as a “northside boy”, is it because of his age they can’t say what suburb he is from?

#25
Chop711:42 pm, 22 Feb 12
#26
Postalgeek2:32 pm, 22 Feb 12

AndrewW said :

SnapperJack said :

Look, I know I might be expressing an unpopular view here but could we all please show a bit of restraint before Rioters begin jumping overboard? Pouring vitriol onto this young man will help nobody and might very well unfairly influence the course of justice in this case.

What a strange issue for you to leap to the defence of…

Would you be urging the same level of restraint if the alleged perpetrator was a woman, refugee, or latte-sipping lefty?

What a strange reply. What exactly are you trying to say in that last sentence?

#27
Dilandach2:35 pm, 22 Feb 12

Disinformation said :

JazzyJess said :

This young man needs an immediate psychiatric assessment. Regardless of whether or not the serial killer/animal abuser link is a myth, he presents a huge danger to the wider community and their pets.

The immediate evidence would suggest that he is a danger to dogs only.

The immediate evidence says otherwise.

#28
steveu2:45 pm, 22 Feb 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Thumper said :

he attracted dogs to him, probably by calling them, and then set fire to them, and watched them burn alive

Think about that for a second.

And then let it sink in.

And this is exactly the point. Forget what he may or may not become in the future, the legal system has to deal with what he has actually done.

Well said.

And lets not let his ‘mental health assessment’ get in the way of dispensing any justice that meets the expectations of the community shall we?

#29
Watson3:36 pm, 22 Feb 12

Dilandach said :

Disinformation said :

JazzyJess said :

This young man needs an immediate psychiatric assessment. Regardless of whether or not the serial killer/animal abuser link is a myth, he presents a huge danger to the wider community and their pets.

The immediate evidence would suggest that he is a danger to dogs only.

The immediate evidence says otherwise.

But not based on his actions in relation to the dogs. But it was what triggered them to analyse the files on his iPad and discover his bucket list, which seems to be what convinced the magistrate to keep him locked up. That and him not showing signs of being likely to re-offend.

#30
Ko.4:02 pm, 22 Feb 12

If he snatched the dog from someones yard shouldn’t he be up on theft and trespass charges too?

If he’s this psycho at 16 god help us all when he gets out…

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