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Alleged Lawson firebug teens nabbed

By 8 January 2013 54

ACT Policing has taken two teenagers into custody after a grass fire was started in Lawson earlier today (January 8).

Around 1.30pm, ACT Fire and Rescue requested the assistance of ACT Policing after receiving a report that two teenagers were seen lighting a grass fire along Baldwin Drive.

Officers from Gungahlin general duties attended the area and located the two boys aged 13 and 14. They were taken into custody and conveyed to the Belconnen Police Station where they have assisted police with its investigation.

The teenagers have been released into the custody of their parents and will undergo a restorative justice process.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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54 Responses to
Alleged Lawson firebug teens nabbed
c_c™ 5:56 pm
08 Jan 13
#1

Does this restorative justice process involve putting a blow-torch to their balls. It’s just sick that we have to have Police guarding National Parks because of people like this.

Lillypilly 6:12 pm
08 Jan 13
#2

Compulsory 100 hours of community service in Canberra hospital’s burn unit. Then they’ll see how “cool” it is.

farnarkler 6:38 pm
08 Jan 13
#3

Restorative justice? What exactly is that? They should be locked up for a decade.

How_Canberran 6:41 pm
08 Jan 13
#4

C’mon people, this criminal act is yet another classic Canberran ‘cry for help’.

It should really be up to the greater Canberra community to mete out appropriate ‘restorative justice’.

How Canberran.

Pork Hunt 6:45 pm
08 Jan 13
#5

Lillypilly said :

Compulsory 100 hours of community service in Canberra hospital’s burn unit. Then they’ll see how “cool” it is.

Without my glasses I read that as “bum” unit, either way, what a pair of arseholes.

460cixy 7:00 pm
08 Jan 13
#6

Lillypilly said :

Compulsory 100 hours of community service in Canberra hospital’s burn unit. Then they’ll see how “cool” it is.

I was thinking 100 years would be more fitting for these arse wipes

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 8:07 pm
08 Jan 13
#7

Unbelievable

Spykler 8:07 pm
08 Jan 13
#8

Drag these two scum-sucking s***bags out to the whipping post!- how many times do i need to shout that from the rooftops?

The Frots 8:18 pm
08 Jan 13
#9

Take everything thats dear to them, computers, TV from their rooms, cell phone, clothes – simply empty their rooms total out into the middle of their street. Beds, furniture – everything.

Then set fire to it as they watch.

Let them sleep on the bare floor, have only the clothes they are wearing until ‘they’ can get new ones, let them see how it feels. Absolute dogs!!

Girt_Hindrance 8:39 pm
08 Jan 13
#10

I hope ‘reckless endangerment’ or even ‘attempted grievous bodily harm’ are mentioned on the list of charges, but I honestly doubt they would be, how could we expect the Law Courts of Canberra to enforce societal expectations against the actions of these two little shites?
The worst thing they’ll face would be a contempt of court charge if they abuse the magistrate.

Girt_Hindrance 8:48 pm
08 Jan 13
#11

farnarkler said :

Restorative justice? What exactly is that? They should be locked up for a decade.

Restorative Justice is basically where they are put in a room in a friendly round circle with people who were either victims of their crime or in this case may have been affected (and possibly some that have been victims of the outcome of similar behaviours), to be confronted on the effects of the behaviour that these two allegedly engaged in. In line with “When you started those fires, they came stomping into my house, my Grandmother couldn’t escape in time and we lost her and everything that we had worked a lifetime to build… Since then we’ve never managed to relax in Summertime, anytime we hear a siren, smell smoke etc”…
If there are tears on behalf of the person who committed the crime, then they’re rehabilitated.

KeenGolfer 8:54 pm
08 Jan 13
#12

Girt_Hindrance said :

I hope ‘reckless endangerment’ or even ‘attempted grievous bodily harm’ are mentioned on the list of charges, but I honestly doubt they would be, how could we expect the Law Courts of Canberra to enforce societal expectations against the actions of these two little shites?
The worst thing they’ll face would be a contempt of court charge if they abuse the magistrate.

What charges? They will undergo restorative justice (RJ) as the press release states. Only if they don’t complete the RJ program will they potentially face charges. The RJ program is used for children who are first time offenders, hopefully to get them back on track and keep them out of future trouble and the courts.

http://www.police.act.gov.au/crime-and-safety/programs/restorative-justice-conferencing

GardeningGirl 9:14 pm
08 Jan 13
#13

The Frots said :

Take everything thats dear to them, computers, TV from their rooms, cell phone, clothes – simply empty their rooms total out into the middle of their street. Beds, furniture – everything.

Then set fire to it as they watch.

Let them sleep on the bare floor, have only the clothes they are wearing until ‘they’ can get new ones, let them see how it feels. Absolute dogs!!

Exactly what I was thinking when I read the news.

Tetranitrate 9:19 pm
08 Jan 13
#14

How_Canberran said :

C’mon people, this criminal act is yet another classic Canberran ‘cry for help’.

It should really be up to the greater Canberra community to mete out appropriate ‘restorative justice’.

How Canberran.

Are you ever going to get tired of posting your retarded little catchphrase?

LSWCHP 10:08 pm
08 Jan 13
#15

In the light of the fact that on Monday a decent man of my acquaintance was burned to death in Watson, I’m not feeling a whole helluva lot of sympathy for these little arsehats.

The actions of some people really are incomprehensible.

Postalgeek 10:23 pm
08 Jan 13
#16

Tetranitrate said :

How_Canberran said :

C’mon people, this criminal act is yet another classic Canberran ‘cry for help’.

It should really be up to the greater Canberra community to mete out appropriate ‘restorative justice’.

How Canberran.

Are you ever going to get tired of posting your retarded little catchphrase?

Thank you. It was beginning to grate.

poetix 10:40 pm
08 Jan 13
#17

Lillypilly said :

Compulsory 100 hours of community service in Canberra hospital’s burn unit. Then they’ll see how “cool” it is.

However, the burns patients might not want them there. They’d just be in the way, too. I really don’t know what should be done here. Do the processes outlined at #12 work? How do we know?

Girt_Hindrance 10:46 pm
08 Jan 13
#18

KeenGolfer said :

Girt_Hindrance said :

I hope ‘reckless endangerment’ or even ‘attempted grievous bodily harm’ are mentioned on the list of charges, but I honestly doubt they would be, how could we expect the Law Courts of Canberra to enforce societal expectations against the actions of these two little shites?
The worst thing they’ll face would be a contempt of court charge if they abuse the magistrate.

What charges? They will undergo restorative justice (RJ) as the press release states. Only if they don’t complete the RJ program will they potentially face charges. The RJ program is used for children who are first time offenders, hopefully to get them back on track and keep them out of future trouble and the courts.

http://www.police.act.gov.au/crime-and-safety/programs/restorative-justice-conferencing

Yep, you’re right, and my second comment took a little longer to be posted. In previous employment (residential care youth work) I took supported several youths through the process, and it always involved the affected parties reaching out to do what they could to assist the realignment to the ‘straight and narrow’. After the conferences, the youths would brag to others about ‘getting off’ and promptly continue their downward spiral.

Maybe next time there’ll be charges then.

Tetranitrate 11:00 pm
08 Jan 13
#19

Girt_Hindrance said :

farnarkler said :

Restorative justice? What exactly is that? They should be locked up for a decade.

Restorative Justice is basically where they are put in a room in a friendly round circle with people who were either victims of their crime or in this case may have been affected (and possibly some that have been victims of the outcome of similar behaviours), to be confronted on the effects of the behaviour that these two allegedly engaged in. In line with “When you started those fires, they came stomping into my house, my Grandmother couldn’t escape in time and we lost her and everything that we had worked a lifetime to build… Since then we’ve never managed to relax in Summertime, anytime we hear a siren, smell smoke etc”…
If there are tears on behalf of the person who committed the crime, then they’re rehabilitated.

Frankly, whether it works or to is really down to the family. Decent families will be shocked at their kids having any interaction with the police, will be terrified of the matter going any further and will put tremendous pressure on the boys to take the whole restorative justice thing seriously and keep the hell out of trouble. Consequences at home will amplify the seriousness of the matter and there’ll be a decent chance that the kids will get scared straight.

However if the family are drop-kicks who simply treat the whole thing as a pain in the ass that takes them away from their drink, smokes and TV, then you can be sure that we’ll be hearing about these boys again over the coming years.

bundah 11:25 pm
08 Jan 13
#20

Let me play devil’s advocate and ask all rioters to remind themselves of what they actually comprehended at 13/14 years of age.Did you all fully understand the consequences of your actions,in fact,how many of you even understand that now as mature adults?The reality is that there are parents who are incapable of guiding and disciplining their children and effectively create little bastards who are more likely to become anti-social monsters.Locking them up and throwing away the key as some of you have intimated is all a little too late after the event particularly at that age.There is no doubt in my mind that society’s do gooders have exacerbated the problem with their naive thinking and actions.

Ben_Dover 7:18 am
09 Jan 13
#21

The Frots said :

Take everything thats dear to them, computers, TV from their rooms, cell phone, clothes – simply empty their rooms total out into the middle of their street. Beds, furniture – everything.

Then set fire to it as they watch.

Let them sleep on the bare floor, have only the clothes they are wearing until ‘they’ can get new ones, let them see how it feels. Absolute dogs!!

+1
Gold !!!
LIKE!!!

Ben_Dover 7:23 am
09 Jan 13
#22

bundah said :

Let me play devil’s advocate and ask all rioters to remind themselves of what they actually comprehended at 13/14 years of age.Did you all fully understand the consequences of your actions,in fact,how many of you even understand that now as mature adults?

Would I have understood that starting fires for fun during the current emergency was a bad thing to do, and may have potential catastrophic consequences at age 13? Yes I would have.
Don’t judge everyone by your own IQ.

If they really didn’t understand the seriousness of what they were doing, it’s therefore going to take a severe kicking to get the information into their thick skulls.

Baggy 7:24 am
09 Jan 13
#23

bundah said :

Let me play devil’s advocate and ask all rioters to remind themselves of what they actually comprehended at 13/14 years of age.Did you all fully understand the consequences of your actions,in fact,how many of you even understand that now as mature adults?The reality is that there are parents who are incapable of guiding and disciplining their children and effectively create little bastards who are more likely to become anti-social monsters.Locking them up and throwing away the key as some of you have intimated is all a little too late after the event particularly at that age.There is no doubt in my mind that society’s do gooders have exacerbated the problem with their naive thinking and actions.

I agree with your last comment. And as much as it irks me, day after day I see more evidence that people ought to be given a licence to breed.

bundah 8:41 am
09 Jan 13
#24

@ Ben_Dover

The fact that i have a high IQ is precisely what enables me to glean information that explains why these scenarios occur.Giving them a severe kicking is all well and good after the event however the focus needs to be on prevention and clearly we,as a society,have failed particularly as the do gooders are largely setting the tempo and cracking the whip.

Girt_Hindrance 8:48 am
09 Jan 13
#25

bundah said :

Let me play devil’s advocate and ask all rioters to remind themselves of what they actually comprehended at 13/14 years of age.Did you all fully understand the consequences of your actions,in fact,how many of you even understand that now as mature adults? Locking them up and throwing away the key as some of you have intimated is all a little too late after the event particularly at that age.

Are you suggesting we lock them up before they’ve done any damage? Wow, that’s a bit harsh.

thebrownstreak69 8:49 am
09 Jan 13
#26

bundah said :

Let me play devil’s advocate and ask all rioters to remind themselves of what they actually comprehended at 13/14 years of age.Did you all fully understand the consequences of your actions,in fact,how many of you even understand that now as mature adults?The reality is that there are parents who are incapable of guiding and disciplining their children and effectively create little bastards who are more likely to become anti-social monsters.Locking them up and throwing away the key as some of you have intimated is all a little too late after the event particularly at that age.There is no doubt in my mind that society’s do gooders have exacerbated the problem with their naive thinking and actions.

Of course I knew not to commit crime at that age. Most kids do. It’s the kids that don’t understand this that are the anomalies, which is why action is needed.

ScienceRules 8:53 am
09 Jan 13
#27

Ben_Dover said :

bundah said :

Let me play devil’s advocate and ask all rioters to remind themselves of what they actually comprehended at 13/14 years of age.Did you all fully understand the consequences of your actions,in fact,how many of you even understand that now as mature adults?

Would I have understood that starting fires for fun during the current emergency was a bad thing to do, and may have potential catastrophic consequences at age 13? Yes I would have.
Don’t judge everyone by your own IQ.

If they really didn’t understand the seriousness of what they were doing, it’s therefore going to take a severe kicking to get the information into their thick skulls.

You really are a cretin, aren’t you? “A severe kicking”? Really? Maybe an internet hero such as yourself could step forward (perhaps during their court hearing) and state your willingness to apply these barbaric punishments. No? Thought not…

Postalgeek 10:24 am
09 Jan 13
#28

Notice to all villagers:

Please bring pitchforks only. Do not bring burning torches to anti-arsonist rallies during a total fire ban.

johnboy 10:32 am
09 Jan 13
#29

Postalgeek said :

Notice to all villagers:

Please bring pitchforks only. Do not bring burning torches to anti-arsonist rallies during a total fire ban.

give that man a biscuit.

Chop71 10:38 am
09 Jan 13
#30

Approx 220 years ago these kiddies may have had their hands chopped off or worse …….

sent to Australia.

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