Australia Day stuff

By 24 January, 2014 39

Australia was founded in a drunken convict orgy in 1788 and today we encourage our youth to remember that spirit and intent.

To that end the Police have sent forth word that they’ll be keeping an eye on things:

ACT Policing will have a highly visible presence at the Australia Day Live concert on (Saturday, January 26) to ensure a trouble-free event.

This year, as in previous years, ACT Policing will place a particular focus on identifying alcohol-affected juveniles, with event security instructed to turn away young people who appear to be affected by alcohol.

Proactive patrols will operate around Parliament House from midday on Saturday and will include known locations where young people consume alcohol.

ACT Policing is also urging motorists to drive safely over the Australia Day long weekend and warns that double demerits will apply for speeding and seatbelt offences, with an extra point for all other traffic offences.

Double demerit points are effective from the first instance of Friday, January 24 until midnight January 27, 2014.

Meanwhile Mayor Rattenbury advises he’s laying buses on to help folk participate in full:

Take an ACTION bus to and from Australia Day events this long weekend, with a variety of additional services available, including some free chartered services following events, said Minister for Territory and Municipal Services, Shane Rattenbury.

“The Australia Celebrates Live concert kicks off at 5pm until10:30pm on Saturday, 25 January 2014 on the lawns of Parliament House,” Mr Rattenbury said.

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39 Responses to Australia Day stuff
#1
MrPC10:25 am, 24 Jan 14

Australia wasn’t founded until 1901. It’s NSW that got founded in that drunken convict orgy on 26/1/1788.

#2
johnboy10:30 am, 24 Jan 14

It was the foundation of what would become australia and it’s got the day on it smarty.

#3
astrojax10:38 am, 24 Jan 14

anyway, wasn’t the drunken orgy on the 27th, the day after the fleet arrived?

i like the link text the the rat is ‘laying buses’ – o, the imagery…

#4
johnboy10:39 am, 24 Jan 14

and christmas wasn’t on christmas day.

Celebrate ya poof

#5
maniac10:41 am, 24 Jan 14

The colony of New South Wales was founded in 1788 and originally comprised much of the Australian mainland, as well as Lord Howe Island, New Zealand, Norfolk Island and Van Diemen’s Land in addition to the area currently referred to as the state of New South Wales, which was formed during Federation in 1901. During the 19th century, large areas were successively separated to form the British colonies of Tasmania (established as a separate colony named Van Diemen’s Land in 1825), South Australia (1836), New Zealand (1841), Victoria (1851), Queensland (1859) and the Northern Territory (1863). Smaller areas of territory were ceded to the new federal government of Australia (1901): Norfolk Island and the Australian Capital Territory (1911).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_south_wales

#6
IrishPete10:57 am, 24 Jan 14

maniac said :

The colony of New South Wales was founded in 1788 and originally comprised much of the Australian mainland, as well as Lord Howe Island, New Zealand, Norfolk Island and Van Diemen’s Land in addition to the area currently referred to as the state of New South Wales, which was formed during Federation in 1901. During the 19th century, large areas were successively separated to form the British colonies of Tasmania (established as a separate colony named Van Diemen’s Land in 1825), South Australia (1836), New Zealand (1841), Victoria (1851), Queensland (1859) and the Northern Territory (1863). Smaller areas of territory were ceded to the new federal government of Australia (1901): Norfolk Island and the Australian Capital Territory (1911).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_south_wales

Sometimes Wikipedia fails miserably – I was reading some stuff yesterday about Indonesia’s military capabilities, and a lot of it was clearly written by someone for whom English was not their first language, but also it was rather effusive so read like it was written by the military themselves, or the manufacturers of the equipment.

In this instance, it’s hard to see how NSW in 1788 comprised all those places, much of which had never been seen by Whitefellas – presumably Cook or Phillip or someone waved their hand in a general direction and said “it’s all mine” (or England’s). Or did they get some random Aborigine to sign a piece of paper?

Or the punctuation/wording is wrong – replace the words “originally comprised” with “eventually comprised” or “over the next few years/decades came to comprise”.

IP

#7
tuco11:02 am, 24 Jan 14

maniac said :

The colony of New South Wales was founded in 1788 and originally comprised much of the Australian mainland, as well as Lord Howe Island, New Zealand, Norfolk Island and Van Diemen’s Land in addition to the area currently referred to as the state of New South Wales, which was formed during Federation in 1901. During the 19th century, large areas were successively separated to form the British colonies of Tasmania (established as a separate colony named Van Diemen’s Land in 1825), South Australia (1836), New Zealand (1841), Victoria (1851), Queensland (1859) and the Northern Territory (1863). Smaller areas of territory were ceded to the new federal government of Australia (1901): Norfolk Island and the Australian Capital Territory (1911).

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_south_wales

Betcha Western Australia is following this quotation with interest.

#8
HiddenDragon11:44 am, 24 Jan 14

“Australia was founded in a drunken convict orgy in 1788….” – is this from the latest draft of the (new) national curriculum? I hope said document adds words to the effect that “happily, the worst of the Puritans had already decamped to North America, which is why Straya is blessed with so many loveable, happy-go-lucky scamps and rogues, and the USA has a scary, paranoid gun culture and legions of deadly serious God botherers. We should probably also say something about how narrowly the wide brown land avoided being colonised by those effete French, and then there’s the Dutch……

#9
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd12:27 pm, 24 Jan 14

Happy bogan trash day

#10
460cixy12:35 pm, 24 Jan 14

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Happy bogan trash day

Cheers brahhhh c***

#11
c_c™1:39 pm, 24 Jan 14

Let’s spare a minute and think what could have been… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBYnL5fAXE&feature=related

#12
zorro291:45 pm, 24 Jan 14

drunken orgy?? sweet…I love Australia day! C’aaarrrrrnnnnn Aussie… :)

#13
johnboy1:52 pm, 24 Jan 14

drunken convict orgy!

#14
Thumper1:59 pm, 24 Jan 14

c_c™ said :

Let’s spare a minute and think what could have been… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpBYnL5fAXE&feature=related

Thank you for that…. :)

#15
maxblues2:02 pm, 24 Jan 14

zorro29 said :

drunken orgy?? sweet…I love Australia day! C’aaarrrrrnnnnn Aussie… :)

johnboy said :

drunken convict orgy!

It is a pity that the un-Australian wowsers, do-gooders and would-be-prohibitionists with nothing better to do have been chiselling away at our precious traditions ever since.

#16
Jethro2:09 pm, 24 Jan 14

astrojax said :

anyway, wasn’t the drunken orgy on the 27th, the day after the fleet arrived?

i like the link text the the rat is ‘laying buses’ – o, the imagery…

I believe the orgy was on the 6th of Feb when the women disembarked.

#17
Antagonist2:38 pm, 24 Jan 14

Jethro said :

astrojax said :

anyway, wasn’t the drunken orgy on the 27th, the day after the fleet arrived?

i like the link text the the rat is ‘laying buses’ – o, the imagery…

I believe the orgy was on the 6th of Feb when the women disembarked.

Records suggest yet another ‘scene of debauchery and riot’ when more female convicts arrived in 1790. Even officers were involved this time.

#18
zorro293:17 pm, 24 Jan 14

johnboy said :

drunken convict orgy!

Hmm will it be like Wentworth Miller (Prison Break)-style convicts or the bad kind???

Agree maxblues, I can’t stand the “Boo Australia – feel bad” sentiments /every/ Australia Day. I still love ya long time Australia.

#19
Ello Vera3:41 pm, 24 Jan 14

Jethro said :

astrojax said :

anyway, wasn’t the drunken orgy on the 27th, the day after the fleet arrived?

i like the link text the the rat is ‘laying buses’ – o, the imagery…

I believe the orgy was on the 6th of Feb when the women disembarked.

That was the second orgy.

Sodomy and the lash.

#20
bobzed573:55 pm, 24 Jan 14

maxblues said :

zorro29 said :

drunken orgy?? sweet…I love Australia day! C’aaarrrrrnnnnn Aussie… :)

johnboy said :

drunken convict orgy!

It is a pity that the un-Australian wowsers, do-gooders and would-be-prohibitionists with nothing better to do have been chiselling away at our precious traditions ever since.

Thanks maxblues, you’ve made me feel better. It’s nice to know there’s a fellow traveller. Enjoy the weekend.

#21
gooterz7:42 pm, 26 Jan 14

It was the day of the military coup in 1808, were we stuck it to dear old england

#22
Deref10:17 am, 27 Jan 14

Ello Vera said :

Jethro said :

astrojax said :

anyway, wasn’t the drunken orgy on the 27th, the day after the fleet arrived?

i like the link text the the rat is ‘laying buses’ – o, the imagery…

I believe the orgy was on the 6th of Feb when the women disembarked.

That was the second orgy.

Sodomy and the lash.

And rum. Don’t forget rum.

#23
watto2312:38 pm, 27 Jan 14

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

#24
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd1:21 pm, 27 Jan 14

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

That would be lovely buy sadly the trash wouldn’t understand.

#25
IrishPete2:35 pm, 27 Jan 14

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

But the point is that this particular date does NOT present foundation of the country. It represents the foundation of a colony, which much later became a State which later became incorporated into a country. Every country wants a date to celebrate (whether it needs one, is another discussion), and 26th January is not a great choice. The anniversary of Federation would be a better choice, but being 1st January is probably not going to stand out.

Perhaps the best chance of resolving this one is when Australia finally cuts the apron strings and becomes a Republic. Then we can choose a day, 26th January if we want, and that will be the national day. It might be better to choose a date that doesn’t clash with the billion-plus Indians; it isn’t even the date they became independent, but the date their constitution came into effect.

We could even move it to the 18th January when Philip made his first landfall, or the date in April that Cook landed in Australia, though that’s very close to ANZAC Day. I’d suggest ANZAC Day itself, but that would mean losing a public holiday, and also that’s supposed to be a more sombre day rather than a celebration.

I like the idea of a multicultural festival day, though if indigenous people aren’t going to join in, that would be a problem.

#26
c_c™2:52 pm, 27 Jan 14

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

It’s a dangerous trend that’s emerged, probably over the last 15 years, where governments have tried to build Australia Day and ANZAC Day into propaganda fests. No doubt Adam Goodes is a good bloke whose done great work on and off the field, but he was a politics pick pure and simple and that just exemplifies the real intents behind the day.

And you’re absolutely right, the bogan trash shouldn’t have a place and it should be more culturally engaging.

#27
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd5:00 pm, 27 Jan 14

IrishPete said :

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

But the point is that this particular date does NOT present foundation of the country. It represents the foundation of a colony, which much later became a State which later became incorporated into a country. Every country wants a date to celebrate (whether it needs one, is another discussion), and 26th January is not a great choice. The anniversary of Federation would be a better choice, but being 1st January is probably not going to stand out.

Perhaps the best chance of resolving this one is when Australia finally cuts the apron strings and becomes a Republic. Then we can choose a day, 26th January if we want, and that will be the national day. It might be better to choose a date that doesn’t clash with the billion-plus Indians; it isn’t even the date they became independent, but the date their constitution came into effect.

We could even move it to the 18th January when Philip made his first landfall, or the date in April that Cook landed in Australia, though that’s very close to ANZAC Day. I’d suggest ANZAC Day itself, but that would mean losing a public holiday, and also that’s supposed to be a more sombre day rather than a celebration.

I like the idea of a multicultural festival day, though if indigenous people aren’t going to join in, that would be a problem.

Sadly, the trash will not understand this either.

#28
Mysteryman7:26 pm, 27 Jan 14

IrishPete said :

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

But the point is that this particular date does NOT present foundation of the country. It represents the foundation of a colony, which much later became a State which later became incorporated into a country. Every country wants a date to celebrate (whether it needs one, is another discussion), and 26th January is not a great choice. The anniversary of Federation would be a better choice, but being 1st January is probably not going to stand out.

Perhaps the best chance of resolving this one is when Australia finally cuts the apron strings and becomes a Republic. Then we can choose a day, 26th January if we want, and that will be the national day. It might be better to choose a date that doesn’t clash with the billion-plus Indians; it isn’t even the date they became independent, but the date their constitution came into effect.

We could even move it to the 18th January when Philip made his first landfall, or the date in April that Cook landed in Australia, though that’s very close to ANZAC Day. I’d suggest ANZAC Day itself, but that would mean losing a public holiday, and also that’s supposed to be a more sombre day rather than a celebration.

I like the idea of a multicultural festival day, though if indigenous people aren’t going to join in, that would be a problem.

It wouldn’t matter what date was chosen, the “invasion day” crew would still be grinding the same axe. The simple fact, as pointed out, is that what happened when Cook arrived, happened. I don’t think it was right and I would never support that behaviour. But it’s very easy to judge history in hindsight. There will always be people holding onto the fact that 200 years ago this land was taken from its inhabitants. I think it’s important that we remember that. But what they are hoping to change by racially vilifying those of us who are Anglo and yet had nothing to do with terra nullius, I don’t know. Claiming the “white man” is a thief seems to only serve to create division and separation between people from different backgrounds. And, yes, I’ve been at two “invasion day” gatherings on the lawns of OPH and both times that’s exactly what was said/claimed. I was astounded at the more recent event at just how close to “hate speech” some of the speeches were. But I guess it’s not hate speech if it comes from a minority…

Regarding the choice of date, well, I disagree that it’s not a great choice. The simple fact is that this country would not exist as it does now without the land being claimed by the British. That happened on the 26th. The country as we know it now spawned from that day – whether or not the actions of the colonists were appropriate.

What we have now is a great country, full of great people from all walks of life and all manner of cultures, that seems to genuinely be trying to make things better for its people. And I think we should celebrate that. Watto23′s suggestion of a multicultural festival style event is a great one.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse

In the last 4 years and during my attendance at various “invasion day” rallies, I’ve seen a lot of “trash bogans” who were drunk and yelling racist abuse. They were black, though. Funny how it seems to be ok to label people “white trash”, but not “black trash”. I guess we’ve still got a long way to go before we treat everyone the same.

#29
Thumper9:16 pm, 27 Jan 14

IrishPete said :

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

But the point is that this particular date does NOT present foundation of the country. It represents the foundation of a colony, which much later became a State which later became incorporated into a country. Every country wants a date to celebrate (whether it needs one, is another discussion), and 26th January is not a great choice. The anniversary of Federation would be a better choice, but being 1st January is probably not going to stand out.

Perhaps the best chance of resolving this one is when Australia finally cuts the apron strings and becomes a Republic. Then we can choose a day, 26th January if we want, and that will be the national day. It might be better to choose a date that doesn’t clash with the billion-plus Indians; it isn’t even the date they became independent, but the date their constitution came into effect.

We could even move it to the 18th January when Philip made his first landfall, or the date in April that Cook landed in Australia, though that’s very close to ANZAC Day. I’d suggest ANZAC Day itself, but that would mean losing a public holiday, and also that’s supposed to be a more sombre day rather than a celebration.

I like the idea of a multicultural festival day, though if indigenous people aren’t going to join in, that would be a problem.

ANZAC Day is ANZAC Day. For you, it obviously has no more significance than a day off work. For me (and a lot of people), it’s not a public holiday, it’s far more significant.

I know you hate authority and the armed forces (and apparently everything Australian, and indeed sometimes I wonder why you live here as you never have anything good to say…), however, I digress, ANZAC Day can never be Australia day.

ANZAC Day is for serving and ex serving soldiers, sailors and airmen and their families, whatever their background, not boozed up bogans with Australian flags draped over their shoulders…

In fact, if anything, I wish ANZAC day was not a public holiday. That would ensure the boozed up bogans went to work instead of infesting the day with their fake patriotism.

And yes, if you were wondering, I did serve a number of years in the Army and Air Force.

#30
Thumper9:24 pm, 27 Jan 14

Thumper said :

IrishPete said :

watto23 said :

What annoys me is while I understand some indigenous people don’t like the date and some people who like to cause controversy have latched onto that also, it is history and its the foundation of this country. Most of us don’t approve of anything bad that happened to the aboriginals, but we can’t change that, only make sure it doesn’t happen again.

What we need to do is get rid of the white trash bogans who think its all about getting drunk and yelling racist abuse. I’d have thought for Australia day we could have had a mini multicultral festival/feast!

But the point is that this particular date does NOT present foundation of the country. It represents the foundation of a colony, which much later became a State which later became incorporated into a country. Every country wants a date to celebrate (whether it needs one, is another discussion), and 26th January is not a great choice. The anniversary of Federation would be a better choice, but being 1st January is probably not going to stand out.

Perhaps the best chance of resolving this one is when Australia finally cuts the apron strings and becomes a Republic. Then we can choose a day, 26th January if we want, and that will be the national day. It might be better to choose a date that doesn’t clash with the billion-plus Indians; it isn’t even the date they became independent, but the date their constitution came into effect.

We could even move it to the 18th January when Philip made his first landfall, or the date in April that Cook landed in Australia, though that’s very close to ANZAC Day. I’d suggest ANZAC Day itself, but that would mean losing a public holiday, and also that’s supposed to be a more sombre day rather than a celebration.

I like the idea of a multicultural festival day, though if indigenous people aren’t going to join in, that would be a problem.

ANZAC Day is ANZAC Day. For you, it obviously has no more significance than a day off work. For me (and a lot of people), it’s not a public holiday, it’s far more significant.

I know you hate authority and the armed forces (and apparently everything Australian, and indeed sometimes I wonder why you live here as you never have anything good to say…), however, I digress, ANZAC Day can never be Australia day.

ANZAC Day is for serving and ex serving soldiers, sailors and airmen and their families, whatever their background, not boozed up bogans with Australian flags draped over their shoulders…

In fact, if anything, I wish ANZAC day was not a public holiday. That would ensure the boozed up bogans went to work instead of infesting the day with their fake patriotism.

And yes, if you were wondering, I did serve a number of years in the Army and Air Force.

I should add, I’ve always thought that Australia has lacked a real defining moment in history. We have never had civil war, we have never (as Australia) been invaded. We do not have that singular defining moment (or moments) that pulls us all together and as such we ‘invented’ Gallipoli …

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