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Before the morning. Late night Civic in pictures.

By 16 June 2011 20

“babingtonfilms” has posted a piece explaining Andrew Babington’s photography project of late night photography in Civic.

There’s a lot of striking imagery there.

The book “Before The Morning” is available on Blurb.

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20 Responses to Before the morning. Late night Civic in pictures.
#1
XO_VSOP11:38 am, 16 Jun 11

Wonder how many release forms Andrew and his mates got signed off. This is nothing new or startling it happens in every town. and has been covered in the local press many times, I might save the $39.98 on the book for my dry cleaning bill when i run into these guys without cameras at 3am on Saturday.

#2
Rollersk8r11:59 am, 16 Jun 11

Seems a tad condescending, IMO, for young people to be documenting their peers at their worst. It’s no secret that Civic, or anywhere else for that matter, gets ugly in the early hours. It’s only in the last 15 seconds they mention they do have some happy snaps to accompany all their cop chasing.

#3
luther_bendross12:13 pm, 16 Jun 11

Yet another case of ANU students being better than everyone else.

#4
Chop7112:26 pm, 16 Jun 11

good times

#5
Swaggie12:47 pm, 16 Jun 11

Is the video supposed to encourage sales of the Book? If bad filming bad editing and bad camerawork sell books then young Andrew is on his way to a million copies sold…. but seriously it’s a shocker..

#6
gospeedygo12:49 pm, 16 Jun 11

“Up on the blog so everyone knows were having new age fun, with a vintage feel!”

#7
Disinformation12:55 pm, 16 Jun 11

XO_VSOP said :

Wonder how many release forms Andrew and his mates got signed off. .

Probably none and as nobody is likely to be used to endorse anything for a commercial interest, it’s not required.
Legal opinions on Australian State and Territory laws regarding public photography and case histories of mis application are available at http://4020.net/words/photorights.php

#8
Tooks1:12 pm, 16 Jun 11

Craptacular.

#9
RobertRiley1:17 pm, 16 Jun 11

Interesting video. I wonder what the ACT law says about photography without consent. Apparently it’s legal…

#10
Disinformation1:52 pm, 16 Jun 11

RobertRiley said :

Interesting video. I wonder what the ACT law says about photography without consent. Apparently it’s legal…

Do your research.
It isn’t, never has been and probably never will be.

#11
Stevian2:26 pm, 16 Jun 11

Disinformation said :

RobertRiley said :

Interesting video. I wonder what the ACT law says about photography without consent. Apparently it’s legal…

Do your research.
It isn’t, never has been and probably never will be.

Was he ordered to take it down? I wanted to see the drunken teenage girls fighting in the street or whatever, with no risk to myself.

#12
Jim Jones2:45 pm, 16 Jun 11

RobertRiley said :

Interesting video. I wonder what the ACT law says about photography without consent. Apparently it’s legal…

You think it’s illegal to photograph people in public?

#13
Disinformation2:56 pm, 16 Jun 11

Disinformation said :

RobertRiley said :

Interesting video. I wonder what the ACT law says about photography without consent. Apparently it’s legal…

Do your research.
It isn’t, never has been and probably never will be.

Whoops. Need to edit that.
It’s NOT illegal to photograph people in public. That will teach me to skim read.

It is quite legal to walk down the street in a public area (not on private property) and video or photograph people AND sell the video. There are no release forms required.

#14
Erg03:26 pm, 16 Jun 11

Disinformation said :

It is quite legal to walk down the street in a public area (not on private property) and video or photograph people AND sell the video. There are no release forms required.

True enough, though the information in your link above does make me wonder whether the subjects of the posted photos could argue that their likeness is being used for promotional purposes without their consent. They’re probably not famous enough to make anything of it, in any case.

#15
Disinformation3:58 pm, 16 Jun 11

Erg0 said :

True enough, though the information in your link above does make me wonder whether the subjects of the posted photos could argue that their likeness is being used for promotional purposes without their consent. They’re probably not famous enough to make anything of it, in any case.

The definition of commercial purposes is quite definitive if you continue to read the references. These people appearing in a book or on a video, while in the public eye, can do nothing about it, nor file claims against the publishers or author. Fame has absolutely nothing to do with it. They’re not being used to endorse a product. Images of them ARE the product.

The misunderstanding on the legalities of public photography and the use of images are widespread. The laws are pretty clear but the ignorance is rather resilient.
Your chances of being in Civic for five minutes without being filmed by security cameras somewhere are incredibly slim. What can you do about it? Wear a burqua or stay home.

#16
Erg04:23 pm, 16 Jun 11

That was my initial thought as well, but then I saw this example in the “What Is “Commercial Use”?” section of the abovementioned page:

“A photograph is published on a book or magazine cover. Commercial as the image is used to entice people to buy something, in this case the book or mag. (BTW this is why you almost never see candid-people photos used as magazine cover illustrations.)”

I’m wondering about the accuracy of this assessment, though, since there are obviously a number of gossip magazines that use nothing but candid photos on their covers. Could be that the finer points of the law have been skimmed over in order to give some general guidance.

#17
mouthface4:56 pm, 16 Jun 11

Disinformation said :

Erg0 said :

True enough, though the information in your link above does make me wonder whether the subjects of the posted photos could argue that their likeness is being used for promotional purposes without their consent. They’re probably not famous enough to make anything of it, in any case.

The definition of commercial purposes is quite definitive if you continue to read the references. These people appearing in a book or on a video, while in the public eye, can do nothing about it, nor file claims against the publishers or author. Fame has absolutely nothing to do with it. They’re not being used to endorse a product. Images of them ARE the product.

The misunderstanding on the legalities of public photography and the use of images are widespread. The laws are pretty clear but the ignorance is rather resilient.
Your chances of being in Civic for five minutes without being filmed by security cameras somewhere are incredibly slim. What can you do about it? Wear a burqua or stay home.

+1

#18
matt312215:04 pm, 16 Jun 11

The video has been removed ‘by the user’! I really wanted to watch that, I wonder if the metacrawlers grabbed it before it was deleted. Do you know of an alternate link by per chance Mr admin?

#19
johnboy5:08 pm, 16 Jun 11

Apparently it’s getting reedited. We’ll let you know when the new one comes up.

#20
basketcase9:32 am, 17 Jun 11

Spent 15 years driving cabs at night, the life cycle on the then Civic rank was interesting, the chucking and spewing would start about 2am, then about 5am, the cleaners would move in with their hoses and what nots. There was a servo and all night van opposite the Civic rank many moons ago, they would wander over there, get a hamburger, wander back and spew it out.

All a great waste.

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