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Holden Caulfield has sent this in:
I took this snap of the Manuka Oval light tower on my commute to work this morning.
There’s another tower going up today according to Andrew Barr.
Completion and first tests expected to take place in mid-January.
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Not only does this fella hate Rugby League, he must also hold some grudge against the folks of the inner south.
woppadingo said :
Are you a nimby?
Awww, Manuka is all grown up, it has a sporting field that doesn’t have to shut after 5pm.
Added bonus, it sends the good burgers the inner south into paroxysms of rage that they have to put up with plebs coming in and watching night time sport.
Cool! Looks like a giant wok-spoon!
woppadingo said :
Which fella? Barr? I can’t comment about Rugby, but implementing a long-needed improvement to Manuka Oval is strange way to bear a grudge.
yes i saw this yesterday on my jog and kind of did a double take…i was thinking, how did i miss that everyday?? glad it’s only new
certainly stands out
M0les said :
He said Rugby League, not Rugby. There is a sporting and cultural difference of a significant scale
I did notice the bogong moths fluttering around the lights for a night game at the Narrabundah Ball Park a few weeks ago.
I wonder how this affects quality of the TV image and how they adjust for the flickering. Canberra Stadium must have this issue to manage.
The light spill from sporting field floodlights is a bloody abomination. Surely it’s possible to design them so that they light the ground and not the sky.
Deref said :
Well, to play sports you need to light the field at least 50m into the air (maybe more for cricket). And if you shone the lights directly at the field, then anyone at field level looking up gets the lights straight in their eyes.
Although I’m pretty sure that no one has thought about the issue before, perhaps you should contact the experts and let them see the error of their ways.
Deref said :
Nimby count = 2
I don’t like it. It looks like a giant fly swatter. Surely they could have made it prettier?
Deref said :
Actually these lights were designed to meet building and lighting constraints. They are lower than your typical lights and are more directed at the field than typical stadium lighting.
LDA and Manuka Oval management came to an ISCCC Committee meeting. As I recall there were concerns raised about light spillage on Canberra Ave and possible distraction by the lights of drivers. The main concern was the safety issue of parking on the Canberra Ave median strip. Telopea Park school ovals cannot be used for parking after rain because they will be ploughed up.
The possibility of better park & ride facilities was raised and we were promised a traffic report.
The effects of the lights can only be gauged once they are all on and tested for TV transmission.
The LDA has been trying to do a land swap with the Canberra Services Club so they can develop the site. If the amenity of the neighbouring apartments is adversely affected and not fixed any future developments may be difficult to market.
Deref said :
Lights like these in stadiums are typically very precisely focused, each bulb covering a certain segment of the field. But there will always be some spillage of the light, short of covering the whole bloody thing.
Stop being so precious about it.
Deref said :
These lights are cutting edge- compared to the kilowatt wasters of the MCG and the Gabba, this will provide a more directed, and thus more efficient use of electricity and reduce a massive amount of spill.
woppadingo said :
Well this isn’t a RL town that some people like to believe…Cricket and Australian Rules were always here first. As for the erection of lights at MO, you can blame Kate Carnell for converting Bruce Stadium to a rectangle shaped surface back in the late 90s. It would have been cheaper to increase capacity and still keep the oval shape.
Frustrated said :
Aaahhhh…..bulls***. The first AFL comp held in Canberra started in 1924. Rugby League was playing local, organised challenge cups just after WWI. RMC Duntroon was playing organised Rugby from 1911 onwards.
vg said :
Curious as to why you didn’t referred to the AFL, which didn’t start until 1990, and not the NRL or Super Rugby?
Holden Caulfield said :
Sorry, only speak and read English
Bulls*** back. Australian rules was played at least as early as 1911 here in the ACT by the RMC. Stop obscuring all the facts. Frustrated was right after all.
vg said :
vg said :
Rubbish, and also the fact you referred to it as AFL shows ignorance anyway.
1911 saw the first recorded match of Australian Rules in Canberra between the Royal Military College and employees of the Home Affairs Department.
RL popularity also dwindled at the end of the 1930s for a while.
Frustrated said :
He said comp not single game although what a game in 1911 has to do with the current sporting persuasions of Canberrans today I have no idea.
Frustrated said :
AFL/VFL/Australian Rules = same game
Rugby/Rugby League = different game
Speaking of ignorant…….Canberra didn’t exist in 1911
c_c™ said :
Does a movie theatre projector light up the areas to the sides of the screen? Of course it’s possible.
c_c™ said :
No. There’s no excuse. If not liking unnecessary light pollution makes me a NIMBY then it’s a badge I wear with pride.
aussielyn said :
For all these reasons, just build a new stadium/sporting facilities at Bruce.
Deref said :
Light pollution is a 1st world problem
vg said :
I’ve always had a problem with using AFL in the place of Aussie Rules. AFL is the highest professional league/the national organisation and Aussie Rules is the game itself.
“I play Australian Football League”
Do we know how many nights of the year we should expect these lights to be turned on?
5, 10, 20?
Either way, it’s not going to be a relatively small number.
As noted, I think the parking issue will be the bigger problem.
Holden Caulfield said :
Correct.
Although for Australia V WI, I will make sure I’m in no state to drive