Stupid motorcyclist. There are 5 other lanes he could have used, in particular, the 2 motorcycle only lanes that are available when the other three are clogged with cars. No need to ride in the gutter!

he is a d***head. I had one pass me on the inside while I was in the bicycle lane on Northbourne a few months ago, frightened the hell out of me. He was riding a red Kawasaki ZZ250R if I recall correctly. yep, that is a learners motorcycle.

The lights and my destination allowed him to get away but as both a cyclist and a motorcyclist dangerous idiots like this burn me up.

Huh, I would have been very tempted if this was me to hop off my bike, turn it side on across the bike lan, and stand behind it video taping motorbike man coming at me on my mobile phone and make clear I would not be moving out of his way – then again I enjoy confronting idiots like this and have a reckless disregard for my own personal safety so I guess this tactic wouldn’t be for everyone……

The cycling lane is used and abused for any purpose.
At least that’s how the motoring community in Canberra treats it.

1. For Parking – Especially those just outside of Novotel on Northbourne Ave.

2. For getting out of intersections when the light turns red –
This numpty motorist was going to get caught in the intersection of Northbourne and Elouera (heading south) so he decided to barge in to the cycling lane.
As a cyclist I almost got cleaned up thanks to his quick dumbass thinking.

http://tinyurl.com/7k9tyu4

tiliqua said :

Stupid motorcyclist. There are 5 other lanes he could have used, in particular, the 2 motorcycle only lanes that are available when the other three are clogged with cars. No need to ride in the gutter!

“2 motorcycle only lanes” on northbourne……where? and i’m riding with cars like a sucker

I must admit that in the past I have supported motorcycles using the on road bicycle lanes if they were speed limited to say 20 or 30 km/h and always had to give way to pushies from any direction. The problem is the idiots who would ruin it for everyone, behave like they own the lane and would go too fast making it too dangerous for pushies using the lane and for cars that are turning left and don’t see them in their blind spot.

However, I do think the distinction is now very blurred between bicycles, road legal electric bicycles (I think it’s now around 250 watts), readily available illegal electric (which you can now buy up to 1000 watts) and petrol powered bicycles, very small capacity motorcycles (ie around 50-90cc), rego classified small capacity motorcycles (300cc) and learner legal motorcycles. For example, I think posties can ride anywhere on their 90cc bikes but you can’t ride an unregistered 250+watt electric bicycle anywhere.

Someone on a Canberra road wasn’t doing the right thing? Breaking news, right here!

AAMC said :

“2 motorcycle only lanes” on northbourne……where? and i’m riding with cars like a sucker

Why right between the three regular lanes of course…

ARR 153 Bicycle Lanes (extract)
“A driver (except the rider of a bicycle) must not drive in a bicycle lane, unless the driver is permitted to drive in the bicycle lane under this rule or rule 158.”

The Police are reluctant to book any vehicle in a bicycle lane however as there is this ‘fuzzy’ rule that does not describe what is ‘necessary’ ? stopped traffic, slow traffic ?

“if it is necessary for the driver to drive in the lane: (a) to enter or leave the road; ….a driver may drive for up to 50 metres”

So if the Motorbike was 50m from an intersection and they are turning left, they can’t be booked.

I saw a dude riding a black sportsbike and tapping all the cyclists on the bum as he rode past. I laughed, it confused all the cyclists.

Sounds familiar – a few weeks ago someone (possibly the same motorcyclist) did the same thing. He got in the cycle lane, right behind a cyclist waiting at a red light at the Northbourne Av/Barry Drv intersection. The motorcycle guy revved loudly several times to try and hurry the rider out of the way. The cyclist didn’t move off until it was safe, at which point the arrogant motorcyclist roared off left and down Barry Drive.

Good work for slowing down and creating the desired irritating effect

At least he paid rego

Grega said :

At least he paid rego

Still doesnt allow him to use the lane………

Grega said :

At least he paid rego

how do you know OP doesn’t have a car?

Grega said :

At least he paid rego

I’d happily pay rego for my pushbike if it got me the same rights as vehicle owners, would expect the police to then pro-actively enforce the bad behaviour against cyclists though which rarely if ever happens atm.

Mordd said :

Grega said :

At least he paid rego

I’d happily pay rego for my pushbike if it got me the same rights as vehicle owners, would expect the police to then pro-actively enforce the bad behaviour against cyclists though which rarely if ever happens atm.

Or with car drivers, I had two incidents on Tuesday, riding along Bunda St doing the right thing & a knob in a Commodore does an illegal U turn in front of me. This wasnt such a bad thing as it was well in front & no dramas. The problem was when he decided to return to the lane, he just pulled out forcing me across the white lines into the oncoming traffic.

Then there was the bus heading south on Commonwealth ave, it was coming up from Parkes way behind another bus & the driver did not look at all as he was coming up the on ramp. The first bus went well in front of me but & the second one went as well. I had slowed but by the time I realised that the bus was going to go I was up the side of him. It must have been me waving frantically & swearing at him the got his attention in the mirror.

When he went passed there was no hint of an apology.

Both times I was riding legally with a helmet on & the police were nowhere to be seen to reprimand these REGISTERED vehicles for their bad behavoir.

KB1971 said :

Mordd said :

Grega said :

At least he paid rego

I’d happily pay rego for my pushbike if it got me the same rights as vehicle owners, would expect the police to then pro-actively enforce the bad behaviour against cyclists though which rarely if ever happens atm.

Or with car drivers, I had two incidents on Tuesday, riding along Bunda St doing the right thing & a knob in a Commodore does an illegal U turn in front of me. This wasnt such a bad thing as it was well in front & no dramas. The problem was when he decided to return to the lane, he just pulled out forcing me across the white lines into the oncoming traffic.

Then there was the bus heading south on Commonwealth ave, it was coming up from Parkes way behind another bus & the driver did not look at all as he was coming up the on ramp. The first bus went well in front of me but & the second one went as well. I had slowed but by the time I realised that the bus was going to go I was up the side of him. It must have been me waving frantically & swearing at him the got his attention in the mirror.

When he went passed there was no hint of an apology.

Both times I was riding legally with a helmet on & the police were nowhere to be seen to reprimand these REGISTERED vehicles for their bad behavoir.

Morrd, this is not a direct g at you, just a bit of a rant after reading some of the dick head comments in the they see me rollin thread about the old guy using his mobility scooter in the bike lane.

KB1971 said :

KB1971 said :

Mordd said :

Grega said :

At least he paid rego

I’d happily pay rego for my pushbike if it got me the same rights as vehicle owners, would expect the police to then pro-actively enforce the bad behaviour against cyclists though which rarely if ever happens atm.

Or with car drivers, I had two incidents on Tuesday, riding along Bunda St doing the right thing & a knob in a Commodore does an illegal U turn in front of me. This wasnt such a bad thing as it was well in front & no dramas. The problem was when he decided to return to the lane, he just pulled out forcing me across the white lines into the oncoming traffic.

Then there was the bus heading south on Commonwealth ave, it was coming up from Parkes way behind another bus & the driver did not look at all as he was coming up the on ramp. The first bus went well in front of me but & the second one went as well. I had slowed but by the time I realised that the bus was going to go I was up the side of him. It must have been me waving frantically & swearing at him the got his attention in the mirror.

When he went passed there was no hint of an apology.

Both times I was riding legally with a helmet on & the police were nowhere to be seen to reprimand these REGISTERED vehicles for their bad behavoir.

Morrd, this is not a direct g at you, just a bit of a rant after reading some of the dick head comments in the they see me rollin thread about the old guy using his mobility scooter in the bike lane.

All good mate, I don’t take anything on RA personally anyway, I’ve always been happy to consider a registration scheme for bicyles though, its an interesting issue in and of itself but I sometimes its used to try and distract from another issue being discussed, so I just wanted to get out there that there are cyclists that would rego their bike if required.

Trailers are registered, ride on lawn mowers are registered if the traverse roads as are golf carts. Why are bikes special? They require no license and can use roads paths and cycle ways. They are a protected species. They ride on crossings, run red lights and whinge like teenage girls. They should be fined for breaking road law and if they have a license, cop demerit points. Ride on the road, pay like everybody else!

Grega said :

Trailers are registered, ride on lawn mowers are registered if the traverse roads as are golf carts. Why are bikes special? They require no license and can use roads paths and cycle ways. They are a protected species. They ride on crossings, run red lights and whinge like teenage girls. They should be fined for breaking road law and if they have a license, cop demerit points. Ride on the road, pay like everybody else!

Oh gawd, you are new at this arent you?

Grega said :

Trailers are registered, ride on lawn mowers are registered if the traverse roads as are golf carts. Why are bikes special? They require no license and can use roads paths and cycle ways. They are a protected species. They ride on crossings, run red lights and whinge like teenage girls. They should be fined for breaking road law and if they have a license, cop demerit points. Ride on the road, pay like everybody else!

Do you always accuse other people of whinging in the middle of your big girly whinges?

Grega said :

Trailers are registered, ride on lawn mowers are registered if the traverse roads as are golf carts. Why are bikes special? They require no license and can use roads paths and cycle ways. They are a protected species. They ride on crossings, run red lights and whinge like teenage girls. They should be fined for breaking road law and if they have a license, cop demerit points. Ride on the road, pay like everybody else!

Yes, bikes are special, in their own class, all other recreational machines require registration and licence – like skateboards, roller skates, segways, scooters, boogie boards, canoes, kayaks, pedal boats…

Rollersk8r said :

Grega said :

Trailers are registered, ride on lawn mowers are registered if the traverse roads as are golf carts. Why are bikes special? They require no license and can use roads paths and cycle ways. They are a protected species. They ride on crossings, run red lights and whinge like teenage girls. They should be fined for breaking road law and if they have a license, cop demerit points. Ride on the road, pay like everybody else!

Yes, bikes are special, in their own class, all other recreational machines require registration and licence – like skateboards, roller skates, segways, scooters, boogie boards, canoes, kayaks, pedal boats…

shoes…

helium said :

ARR 153 Bicycle Lanes (extract)
“A driver (except the rider of a bicycle) must not drive in a bicycle lane, unless the driver is permitted to drive in the bicycle lane under this rule or rule 158.”

The Police are reluctant to book any vehicle in a bicycle lane however as there is this ‘fuzzy’ rule that does not describe what is ‘necessary’ ? stopped traffic, slow traffic ?

“if it is necessary for the driver to drive in the lane: (a) to enter or leave the road; ….a driver may drive for up to 50 metres”

So if the Motorbike was 50m from an intersection and they are turning left, they can’t be booked.

THIS. It’s not always illegal.

Continue with your regularly scheduled crying, RA.

Solidarity said :

I saw a dude riding a black sportsbike and tapping all the cyclists on the bum as he rode past. I laughed, it confused all the cyclists.

Haha. That would have been pretty funny to see.

Good on you for not being intimidated op. I would have done the same thing.

Grega said :

Trailers are registered!

light trailers aren’t registered in VIC or WA.
Makes for fun if you need to cross the border to pick something up.

Yesterday, I had a moto pull out in front of me heading down Caswell Drive.
The bastard held me up, cost me at least 100m before I switched to the path off the Parkway ramp.

I love it how cyclists demand they share the road with road vehicles but when another two wheeled vehicle wants to play in their sand box they have a cry! Hilarious! There’s no reason that motorcycles should be able to use on-road cycle lanes in times of banked up traffic (if they travel at a reasonable speed <30 and not try and overtake cyclists if they're in the lane).