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BoM climate report – sheesh, it’s hot in here…

By 13 February 2014 314

BOM annual climate report
The bureau of meteorology’s 2013 annual climate report [http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/annual_sum/2013/AnClimSum2013_HR1.0.pdf] is now out, and shows sunny canberra had a +2.2 degrees anomaly above average temperatures, during what was australia’s hottest year on record.  this was the greatest anomaly for any of our capital cities – canberra’s getting warmer more quickly.  and our rainfall was some 14% below average, with fewest days with rainfall.

does this mean we’ll get a real surf beach here soon?

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314 Responses to BoM climate report – sheesh, it’s hot in here…
#1
gooterz3:11 pm, 13 Feb 14

And yet our hottest temp was 1968

#2
Mr Gillespie3:59 pm, 13 Feb 14

Stalled weather patterns. What’s that got to do with global warming, and how is reducing Australia’s CO? output going to make any difference?

While I do accept that if we stop exporting coal it should satisfy the climate action activists as far as Australia is concerned, I object to being told to limit driving, flying and ESPECIALLY take particular objection to being told to turn off my airconditioning to “reduce our emissions”.

Anyway, while there is irrefutable evidence that Australia itself is getting hotter, it is questionable whether the global warming really is global.

#3
Zan5:27 pm, 13 Feb 14

Actually it is climate change – not global warming. What about the weather in UK and USA at the moment which is caused by the jet stream being warmed up via the warming oceans.

#4
howeph6:13 pm, 13 Feb 14

Mr Gillespie said :

Anyway, while there is irrefutable evidence that Australia itself is getting hotter, it is questionable whether the global warming really is global.

So this is questionable then: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/briefings/201401.pdf

9 of the top 10 hottest years globally are since 2000. The only one that isn’t was 1998.

P.S. Did you know that if you were born after 1976 you have NEVER lived through a year with a global average temperature less than the 20th century average! 2013 was the 37th consecutive year that the yearly global temperature was above average.

Source: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/

#5
Mr Gillespie6:42 pm, 13 Feb 14

Linking the cold snap in the US and wild winds in Britain (extreme weather events, which have always happened from time to time throughout history since the dawn of time) to global warming (or is it climate change, what is it?) is a bit of a long bow to stretch, and as such fuels the “climate skeptics”.

#6
Roundhead897:13 pm, 13 Feb 14

Oh god, everybody’s forgotten about climate change yet here we have the dogs returning to their vomit again. What part of “no” do they not understand? Climate change is history. Get over it.

#7
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd7:37 pm, 13 Feb 14

Mr Gillespie said :

Stalled weather patterns. What’s that got to do with global warming, and how is reducing Australia’s CO? output going to make any difference?

While I do accept that if we stop exporting coal it should satisfy the climate action activists as far as Australia is concerned, I object to being told to limit driving, flying and ESPECIALLY take particular objection to being told to turn off my airconditioning to “reduce our emissions”.

Anyway, while there is irrefutable evidence that Australia itself is getting hotter, it is questionable whether the global warming really is global.

CLIMATE CHANGE IS CRAP!!!!!

#8
Mr Gillespie8:55 pm, 13 Feb 14

Comic & Gamer Nerd: where have I heard that “CLIMATE CHANGE IS CRAP” mock before……

Smells like an Internet discussion-forum virus spread around by trolls

#9
Gobbo9:08 pm, 13 Feb 14

There are mosquitos now in England.

I was bitten a number of times when i was last there.

I don’t remeber them being there before.

I wonder what changed? Climate perhaps?

#10
gooterz10:15 pm, 13 Feb 14

Gobbo said :

There are mosquitos now in England.

I was bitten a number of times when i was last there.

I don’t remeber them being there before.

I wonder what changed? Climate perhaps?

Perhaps more people/warm houses

#11
astrojax10:31 pm, 13 Feb 14

so, no beach then?

#12
Masquara10:43 pm, 13 Feb 14

Apparently the heat is being stored in the ocean rather than the atmosphere. Not good.

#13
IrishPete7:15 am, 14 Feb 14

Roundhead89 said :

Oh god, everybody’s forgotten about climate change yet here we have the dogs returning to their vomit again. What part of “no” do they not understand? Climate change is history. Get over it.

You are contradicting yourself. “climate change is history”” is the correct expression – it is an established scientific fact, and a very long time ago, as much as it can be without sitting back doing nothing and waiting for it to happen, which would be the equivalent of saying “I hate my children and grandchildren, and I shit on their futures”.

IP

#14
IrishPete7:55 am, 14 Feb 14

Mr Gillespie said :

Stalled weather patterns. What’s that got to do with global warming, and how is reducing Australia’s CO? output going to make any difference?

While I do accept that if we stop exporting coal it should satisfy the climate action activists as far as Australia is concerned, I object to being told to limit driving, flying and ESPECIALLY take particular objection to being told to turn off my airconditioning to “reduce our emissions”.

Anyway, while there is irrefutable evidence that Australia itself is getting hotter, it is questionable whether the global warming really is global.

1) As the highest per capita emitter of greenhouse gases, of course Australia reducing its emissions will make a difference. And of course our impact is even greater because we export shit for other people to burn and pollute the atmosphere. (And we export uranium too, just to cap our bad reputation.)

2) What else do you object to? Being told not to litter, pour used car oil down the drains, dump rubbish in the bush? Not being allowed to speed or drink drive? This is self-serving claptrap. I run my air conditioner guilt-free because I also have 2kw of solar panels to run it from.

3) complete bollocks. Climate change means greater variability in weather, not “hotter”. Greater variability – hotter in our summers, colder in our winters. Hotter in northern summers, colder in northern winters. More extreme climate events (floods, storms, heatwaves, droughts). Ring any bells? And it has barely started yet.

IP

#15
Nylex_Clock8:12 am, 14 Feb 14

Mr Gillespie said :

Anyway, while there is irrefutable evidence that Australia itself is getting hotter, it is questionable whether the global warming really is global.

It’s only questionable if you are ignorant. Deliberately ignorant and getting your facts from Andrew Bolt instead of the ibnformed experts.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Enso-global-temp-anomalies.png

You’ll notice 2012 was the warmest La Nina year ever. La Nina years *usually* represent years when heat is being circulated into the oceans, but they are no longer cool years like they used to be.

Our global climate has changed.

We’ve emitted so much CO2 into the atmosphere by burning fossil-fuels that we have increased the proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere from 280ppm to 400ppm.

CO2′s absorption spectrum means it doesn’t absorb shorter-wave radiation (like sunlight) but it does absorb longer-wave radiation (like infra-red).
When sunlight hits the earth, it loses energy – it gets slower – and that proportion of the radiation that “bounces” straight back up out towards space now has a longer wavelength than before. The CO2 in the atmosphere absorbs a proportion of this radiation. More CO2 means more heat is absorbed, instead of going straight out to space.

Now, I know it is too much to hope for retards like Gillespie and Roundhead to read this and accept that their belief is not in accordance with the facts of which they are so mightily ignorant, but here’s hoping that these prolific purveyors of anti-science bullsh!t are going to be less likely to confuse others if those others can read what I have written and gain confidence in their understanding of the very real facts of human-caused climate change, which is an unassailable reality and only contradicted by paid lobbyists and their useful idiots.

#16
bundah8:25 am, 14 Feb 14

Opinions are like arseholes but when 97% of scientists say that climate change is real and highly likely anthropogenic why are so many rioters sceptical and what is the basis for their scepticism?

Here’s just a couple of links that I challenge you to debunk…

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1029

#17
dungfungus9:09 am, 14 Feb 14

IrishPete said :

Roundhead89 said :

Oh god, everybody’s forgotten about climate change yet here we have the dogs returning to their vomit again. What part of “no” do they not understand? Climate change is history. Get over it.

You are contradicting yourself. “climate change is history”” is the correct expression – it is an established scientific fact, and a very long time ago, as much as it can be without sitting back doing nothing and waiting for it to happen, which would be the equivalent of saying “I hate my children and grandchildren, and I shit on their futures”.

IP

What did cavemen do to control climate change?
What are you doing personally to save the world?

#18
davo10110:13 am, 14 Feb 14

Mr Gillespie said :

Stalled weather patterns. What’s that got to do with global warming.

Nothing, or are you suggesting that we had a blocking high in the Tasman for 12 months?

Mr Gillespie said :

Anyway, while there is irrefutable evidence that Australia itself is getting hotter, it is questionable whether the global warming really is global.

Seriously? You’re about 30 years behind where the current understanding is. Have a hard squint at this or this…oh and stop reading WUWT it’ll do your head in.

#19
IrishPete10:19 am, 14 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

IrishPete said :

Roundhead89 said :

Oh god, everybody’s forgotten about climate change yet here we have the dogs returning to their vomit again. What part of “no” do they not understand? Climate change is history. Get over it.

You are contradicting yourself. “climate change is history”” is the correct expression – it is an established scientific fact, and a very long time ago, as much as it can be without sitting back doing nothing and waiting for it to happen, which would be the equivalent of saying “I hate my children and grandchildren, and I shit on their futures”.

IP

1) What did cavemen do to control climate change?
2) What are you doing personally to save the world?

1) what are you raving about? if I try to take your question seriously, I’d say they didn’t dig up and burn coal, oil and gas, they didn’t deforest huge swathes of the world. They probably had some natural population controls that we don’t have now. That’s enough for now.

2) 2kw of solar panels on my roof, heat pump water heater, slow combustion fire (burning infinitely renewable wood), low fuel consumption car, no children, vote for and Member of The Greens, and some other things I don’t feel like disclosing here. Next question please?

#20
IrishPete10:23 am, 14 Feb 14

bundah said :

Opinions are like arseholes but when 97% of scientists say that climate change is real and highly likely anthropogenic why are so many rioters sceptical and what is the basis for their scepticism?

Here’s just a couple of links that I challenge you to debunk…

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus
http://climate.nasa.gov/news/1029

I’m a little reluctant to use the “97% of scientists can’t be wrong” line as someone recently posted a link to the source, and the survey didn’t have a great methodology, the 97% being of something like 80 scientists. I didn’t check it in great detail, but what I did read made me cautious.

But you don’t need the 97% quote to be able to say that there is broad scientific consensus. In fact, i wouldn’t be surprised if it was higher than 97%. I’d be very surprised if it was much below 97%.

#21
switch10:32 am, 14 Feb 14

IrishPete said :

1) As the highest per capita emitter of greenhouse gases, of course Australia reducing its emissions will make a difference. And of course our impact is even greater because we export shit for other people to burn and pollute the atmosphere. (And we export uranium too, just to cap our bad reputation.)

Here we go again. We are not. Can we please lay this meme to rest? Last time I looked, we were No. 11, we’ve crept up to No. 9 in this list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions_per_capita

And the climate doesn’t give a stuff about per-capita emissions, it is the total amount of crap being pumped into the atmosphere that is causing the problem. We are not anywhere close to the top of that list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

#22
Mr Gillespie10:35 am, 14 Feb 14

IrishPete said :

1) As the highest per capita emitter of greenhouse gases, of course Australia reducing its emissions will make a difference. And of course our impact is even greater because we export shit for other people to burn and pollute the atmosphere. (And we export uranium too, just to cap our bad reputation.)

2) What else do you object to? Being told not to litter, pour used car oil down the drains, dump rubbish in the bush? Not being allowed to speed or drink drive? This is self-serving claptrap. I run my air conditioner guilt-free because I also have 2kw of solar panels to run it from.

3) complete bollocks. Climate change means greater variability in weather, not “hotter”. Greater variability – hotter in our summers, colder in our winters. Hotter in northern summers, colder in northern winters. More extreme climate events (floods, storms, heatwaves, droughts). Ring any bells? And it has barely started yet.

IP

1. That logic is flawed because you are talking about “per capita” which isn’t the same as “total output”. While I agree with you about exporting shit to other (hideously overpopulated which means hideous “capitas” that add huge amounts to the “total output”, little wonder we’re getting global warming) countries to burn and emit greenhouse gases, it doesn’t help to bring in irrelevant subjects like uranium (a substance which doesn’t emit any kind of greenhouse or climate-changing gas at all)

2. It isn’t always practical to put huge solar panels on the roof of one’s house, especially if it is a rental multi-unit dwelling owned by someone else (and the number of units is too large for the solar panels to serve), and what about hot days when the sun doesn’t shine, and hot nights? Where does your clean energy come from now?

3. Oh, so we’re getting colder winters are we? Ah yeah, like the time we had all these lovely snowdrifts covering the streets of Canberra last winter on one of the numerous 14°C days we didn’t use to have in past winters when we used to have a lot of 10°Cs (we had a record fewest single digit maximums last winter). Definitely warming, not cooling here!

#23
Nylex_Clock11:03 am, 14 Feb 14

dungfungus said :

What did cavemen do to control climate change?

Same as what they did to control smallpox or kidney failure.

#24
NoImRight11:47 am, 14 Feb 14

Even if you choose to dismiss climate change as a concept surely you must agree we need to rethink the way we misuse resources and pollute now.Climate change or no climate change we are leaving the planet worse than how we found it.

#25
PantsMan11:59 am, 14 Feb 14

Climate change is a socialist conspiracy to deindustrialise the western world, radically redistribute wealth, implement an agrarian autarky, and impose a One World Government.

#26
Simmo12:45 pm, 14 Feb 14

switch said :

IrishPete said :

1) As the highest per capita emitter of greenhouse gases, of course Australia reducing its emissions will make a difference. And of course our impact is even greater because we export shit for other people to burn and pollute the atmosphere. (And we export uranium too, just to cap our bad reputation.)

Here we go again. We are not. Can we please lay this meme to rest? Last time I looked, we were No. 11, we’ve crept up to No. 9 in this list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_greenhouse_gas_emissions_per_capita

And the climate doesn’t give a stuff about per-capita emissions, it is the total amount of crap being pumped into the atmosphere that is causing the problem. We are not anywhere close to the top of that list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions

We are number one per capita emitter in OECD.

#27
howeph1:09 pm, 14 Feb 14

IrishPete said :

I’m a little reluctant to use the “97% of scientists can’t be wrong” line as someone recently posted a link to the source, and the survey didn’t have a great methodology, the 97% being of something like 80 scientists. I didn’t check it in great detail, but what I did read made me cautious.

IP, you can use that figure with confidence:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/05/17/global_warming_climate_scientists_overwhelmingly_agree_it_s_real_and_is.html

From the link above:

This study looked at nearly 12,000 professional scientific journal papers about global warming, and found that—of the papers expressing a stance on global warming (about 4000 of them) —97 percent endorse both the reality of global warming and the fact that humans are causing it.

To verify the result they contacted 8500 authors of the papers in question and asked them to self-rate those papers. They got responses from 1200 authors (a nice fraction), and, using the same criteria as the study, it turns out 97.2 percent of the authors endorse the consensus.

#28
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd1:15 pm, 14 Feb 14

Mr Gillespie said :

IrishPete said :

1) As the highest per capita emitter of greenhouse gases, of course Australia reducing its emissions will make a difference. And of course our impact is even greater because we export shit for other people to burn and pollute the atmosphere. (And we export uranium too, just to cap our bad reputation.)

2) What else do you object to? Being told not to litter, pour used car oil down the drains, dump rubbish in the bush? Not being allowed to speed or drink drive? This is self-serving claptrap. I run my air conditioner guilt-free because I also have 2kw of solar panels to run it from.

3) complete bollocks. Climate change means greater variability in weather, not “hotter”. Greater variability – hotter in our summers, colder in our winters. Hotter in northern summers, colder in northern winters. More extreme climate events (floods, storms, heatwaves, droughts). Ring any bells? And it has barely started yet.

IP

1. That logic is flawed because you are talking about “per capita” which isn’t the same as “total output”. While I agree with you about exporting shit to other (hideously overpopulated which means hideous “capitas” that add huge amounts to the “total output”, little wonder we’re getting global warming) countries to burn and emit greenhouse gases, it doesn’t help to bring in irrelevant subjects like uranium (a substance which doesn’t emit any kind of greenhouse or climate-changing gas at all)

2. It isn’t always practical to put huge solar panels on the roof of one’s house, especially if it is a rental multi-unit dwelling owned by someone else (and the number of units is too large for the solar panels to serve), and what about hot days when the sun doesn’t shine, and hot nights? Where does your clean energy come from now?

3. Oh, so we’re getting colder winters are we? Ah yeah, like the time we had all these lovely snowdrifts covering the streets of Canberra last winter on one of the numerous 14°C days we didn’t use to have in past winters when we used to have a lot of 10°Cs (we had a record fewest single digit maximums last winter). Definitely warming, not cooling here!

YEAH SCIENCE IS CRAAAAAAAPPPP!!!!!!!

#29
JesterNoir1:48 pm, 14 Feb 14
#30
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