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Busted blasting clay pigeons in Tidbinbilla

By johnboy - 4 June 2012 56

ACT Policing apprehended a 27-year-old Casey man after he illegally used a firearm in Tidbinbilla Nature Reserve yesterday morning (Sunday, June 3).

About 11am Sunday morning police attended the reserve after receiving a report from ACT Rangers that gun shots were heard in the area.

Upon arrival police heard gun shots in close proximity and shortly after three men emerged from the bush land and were apprehended.

The men were in possession of a 12 gauge shotgun which was registered to one of the men and approximately 100 shotgun shells.

The men had set up a clay target launching device in the reserve. One of the men held an ACT firearms license which police seized along with the registered firearm.

South District Superintendent Paul Shakeshaft said the actions of these men showed a serious disregard for the safety of Canberrans who use the park.

“The actions of these men were extremely dangerous and could have resulted in the serious injury of other people using the area. It is an offence for members of the public to use firearms in the nature reserve,” Superintendent Shakeshaft said. “If anyone witnesses this kind of behaviour I urge them to contact police immediately.”

The man will be summonsed to the ACT Magistrates Court at a later date.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Busted blasting clay pigeons in Tidbinbilla
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Mav 11:11 am
04 Jun 12
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These guys must have a few sheep loose in the top paddock. They had to have known it was a nature reserve and what they were doing was not allowed and dangerous to the public in that area, good grief!

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PBO 11:18 am
04 Jun 12
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Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

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PoQ 11:19 am
04 Jun 12
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Maybe they thought that they were in NSW – where our Dear Leader has allowed the Shooters and Fishers into National Parks so he can sell off the power stations…

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peterh 11:46 am
04 Jun 12
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PBO said :

Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

are you serious? what if a hiker walked into the line of fire, or shot rained down on the kids playground? It is a nature reserve. It is used by many canberrans for weekend activities. This is just plain stupidity. They could have, oh, I don’t know, gone out to the gun club at majura and shot clay pigeons there. It’s pretty close to casey, in fact a lot closer than tidbinbilla is.

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p1 12:16 pm
04 Jun 12
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Ummmmm, of all the miscellaneous places they could have picked to illegally use a shotgun, they pick the nature reserve? Rocket surgeons they are not.

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PBO 12:29 pm
04 Jun 12
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peterh said :

PBO said :

Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

are you serious? what if a hiker walked into the line of fire, or shot rained down on the kids playground? It is a nature reserve. It is used by many canberrans for weekend activities. This is just plain stupidity. They could have, oh, I don’t know, gone out to the gun club at majura and shot clay pigeons there. It’s pretty close to casey, in fact a lot closer than tidbinbilla is.

We dont know if they had precautions in place or had determined whether or not the area was safe.

Yes what they did was illegal, however, they may have gone about it mostly the right way.

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buzz819 1:12 pm
04 Jun 12
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PBO said :

peterh said :

PBO said :

Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

are you serious? what if a hiker walked into the line of fire, or shot rained down on the kids playground? It is a nature reserve. It is used by many canberrans for weekend activities. This is just plain stupidity. They could have, oh, I don’t know, gone out to the gun club at majura and shot clay pigeons there. It’s pretty close to casey, in fact a lot closer than tidbinbilla is.

We dont know if they had precautions in place or had determined whether or not the area was safe.

Yes what they did was illegal, however, they may have gone about it mostly the right way.

Why would they go out there at all??? Every Wednesday night at the shotgun at Majura you can do it legally and safely. People playing with guns when and where they are not supposed to is when people get injured.

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GardeningGirl 1:21 pm
04 Jun 12
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PBO said :

Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

I remember more than 20 years ago reading in the news of a case where a car passenger on a public road was killed by someone target shooting cans in a nearby paddock. Not to mention the hunting accidents reported over the years despite the people involved being aware of each others presence and location. How is ensuring sensible separation of sports involving projectiles from the general public a “cotton wool” issue?

PBO said :

Yes what they did was illegal, however, they may have gone about it mostly the right way.

Doing something illegal doesn’t inspire much trust in their ability to do things the right way.

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DrKoresh 1:27 pm
04 Jun 12
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GardeningGirl said :

Doing something illegal doesn’t inspire much trust in their ability to do things the right way.

peterh said :

PBO said :

Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

are you serious? what if a hiker walked into the line of fire, or shot rained down on the kids playground? It is a nature reserve. It is used by many canberrans for weekend activities. This is just plain stupidity. They could have, oh, I don’t know, gone out to the gun club at majura and shot clay pigeons there. It’s pretty close to casey, in fact a lot closer than tidbinbilla is.

I doubt they were shooting at the kiddie’s playground. As for missed shot raining death on the ground, MythBusters tested what damage a bullet falling to earth can do and it wasn’t a lot. Seeing as this was most likely pellets I imagine they would pose even less danger than a bullet on the way back down.

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EvanJames 1:29 pm
04 Jun 12
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Stupid and yobbish, and I’m glad the authorities were on to it as gunshots could well be scum blasting away at teh wildlife. But, of all the firearms least likely to endanger bushwalkers etc, a 12-gauge would have to be right up there, as their range is pretty short. So stray bullets continuing on to get people some distance away are unlikely to happen.

But nature reserves are reserves, for nature. Not gun-nuts.

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Jivrashia 2:01 pm
04 Jun 12
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buzz819 said :

Why would they go out there at all??? Every Wednesday night at the shotgun at Majura you can do it legally and safely.

Some thing to do with only one person out of the three holding a gun license?
(you do still have to have a license to be allow to shoot at the Majura range, don’t you?)

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buzz819 2:06 pm
04 Jun 12
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DrKoresh said :

GardeningGirl said :

Doing something illegal doesn’t inspire much trust in their ability to do things the right way.

peterh said :

PBO said :

Whoa, better get some more cotton wool to wrap us in!

Would this really have been such an issue 20 years ago? How do we know that they did not have a safe area marked out or had not calculated where their shot would fall?

are you serious? what if a hiker walked into the line of fire, or shot rained down on the kids playground? It is a nature reserve. It is used by many canberrans for weekend activities. This is just plain stupidity. They could have, oh, I don’t know, gone out to the gun club at majura and shot clay pigeons there. It’s pretty close to casey, in fact a lot closer than tidbinbilla is.

I doubt they were shooting at the kiddie’s playground. As for missed shot raining death on the ground, MythBusters tested what damage a bullet falling to earth can do and it wasn’t a lot. Seeing as this was most likely pellets I imagine they would pose even less danger than a bullet on the way back down.

Well the mythbusters did do this test, but that was for a bullet fired straight up, not at angle. A different arc would mean that the projectile would not lose as much energy as fast as the same projectile fired straight up in the air. Yes, it probably was bird shot they were firing with, but that still has an effective range of about 30 – 45 meters, with an up angle this could still cause I would image significant injury for maybe 70 – 80 meters, might not kill, but would definitely piss me off.

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buzz819 2:07 pm
04 Jun 12
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Jivrashia said :

buzz819 said :

Why would they go out there at all??? Every Wednesday night at the shotgun at Majura you can do it legally and safely.

Some thing to do with only one person out of the three holding a gun license?
(you do still have to have a license to be allow to shoot at the Majura range, don’t you?)

Nope, I did it for about 3 years, I still don’t have a gun license, you go out, hire a range gun and have a shoot. So that theory doesn’t really hold.

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peterh 2:09 pm
04 Jun 12
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EvanJames said :

Stupid and yobbish, and I’m glad the authorities were on to it as gunshots could well be scum blasting away at teh wildlife. But, of all the firearms least likely to endanger bushwalkers etc, a 12-gauge would have to be right up there, as their range is pretty short. So stray bullets continuing on to get people some distance away are unlikely to happen.

But nature reserves are reserves, for nature. Not gun-nuts.

12 gauge has a range for AA class shooters of 21m. 15m for C Class. At Tidbinbilla, there are a couple of areas that would accommodate the distance, but there would be kids at one site, and picnickers at the other. Marking out the site is fine if you expect that kind of behavior, but who would in a nature park?

Pellets aren’t the only thing falling to earth, there are clay traps as well, and they do sting if they hit you.

probably why you can’t stand forward of the firing area when there is a shoot on.

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MissChief 2:18 pm
04 Jun 12
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Wow…. and to think I’d only recently been sent there to see the kangaroos because our local mobs have been decimated (see decapitated joey story). Which poses an interesting question: where will the shooters go when they’ve finished killing the kangaroos that live in our city? Seems like they already have some idea, and how clever of them to set up a decoy excuse… because in all reality, no one could be that stupid!

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