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Canberra growing fat on a nation’s suffering?

By johnboy - 15 December 2011 57

The Daily Telegraph is incensed with the rising wages of the top end of the public service:

Now comes shock news of further federal government largesse, this time directed towards Canberra’s ever-expanding top tier of public servants, some of whom will now haul in annual salaries beyond $700,000.

Once public service pay hits the half-million mark, surely the phrase “public servant” requires some revision. Just who is being served here? It hasn’t escaped the notice of those who frequently travel between our various capitals that Canberra features a disproportionate number of building sites for big new hotels.

While most state capitals are working hard just to maintain some momentum in a tight financial era, Canberra is growing fat on big public service expansions.

That expansion is taking place mostly at the very top of the public service, where pay is already extremely generous. Lower-level public servants – those who actually have to deal directly with the public – are set for far less extravagant wage rises.

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Canberra growing fat on a nation’s suffering?
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dpm 11:39 am
15 Dec 11
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How many big new hotels are being built ATM?

It’s funny, I remember when I used to vist Syd/Melb/Bris quite a lot about 10 years ago, they all had lots of new buildings going up. Every time i’d return to Cbr there were no large construction activities – no big cranes in the skyline. Just because there are a few now doesn’t mean too much, surely? Maybe Cbr is just balancing out with the growth in other caps in the last ten years?

Anyway, surely hotels don’t really indicate much about Cbr itself, except maybe the hotel owners are expecting more people to visit here? Or are they saying people who live here in Cbr are so rich they all live in hotels? Hahaha! Weird….

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Jim Jones 11:39 am
15 Dec 11
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TERK ER JEEEERRRRRBS!!!

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sarahsarah 11:46 am
15 Dec 11
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Classified said :

Erg0 said :

Where are all these big new hotels they’re talking about? Other than the The Realm/Burbury precinct, I can’t think of any others that have opened recently or are currently being built.

For that matter, can anyone explain to me what hotel development has to do with Canberra’s prosperity? Surely that relates more to the prosperity of our visitors.

During sitting weeks, you can’t find accomodation easily because it can be all booked out.

Pretty much this! And woe betide you if you are trying to find accommodation during both a Parliament session, Floriade and school holidays! Nigh impossible!

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Deref 11:59 am
15 Dec 11
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Two words capture all you’ll ever need to know: “Daily Telegraph”.

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BimboGeek 12:41 pm
15 Dec 11
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DEeEeRK er DEeEEeeEeERBS

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arescarti42 1:22 pm
15 Dec 11
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p1 said :

For anyone tempted to be outraged by this story (or anything that comes out of Mr Abbott’s mouth), I direct you to this.

All in all that ABC opinion piece is pretty poorly written and somewhat misleading. A couple of things that stood out to me:

1. GDP growth is totally meaningless unless it is on a per capita basis. If your population is growing at 4%, you need 4% GDP growth just to not go backwards.
2. The assertion that the prosperity of the last few decades was not a big unsustainable debt bubble because government debt is low. Lets just ignore the fact that Australian private debt per capita is now larger than it was in the US before their debt bubble exploded.

Sure, the Daily Telegraph story is mostly just bogan pandering bullshit, but it does touch on the more substantive notion that Australia is an increasingly unequal society and that Canberra is in many ways isolated from the realities of the rest of Australia.

The-riotact.com highlights this in many ways, according to the 2009 RA media kit, 68% of rioters earn more than $50K a year, almost 20% earn more than $125K. According to the ATO, the median full time earnings of Australian employees was $44,222 in 08/09. That means that 50% of Australian employees earn less than $44k a year.

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Classified 1:46 pm
15 Dec 11
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arescarti42 said :

p1 said :

For anyone tempted to be outraged by this story (or anything that comes out of Mr Abbott’s mouth), I direct you to this.

All in all that ABC opinion piece is pretty poorly written and somewhat misleading. A couple of things that stood out to me:

1. GDP growth is totally meaningless unless it is on a per capita basis. If your population is growing at 4%, you need 4% GDP growth just to not go backwards.
2. The assertion that the prosperity of the last few decades was not a big unsustainable debt bubble because government debt is low. Lets just ignore the fact that Australian private debt per capita is now larger than it was in the US before their debt bubble exploded.

Sure, the Daily Telegraph story is mostly just bogan pandering bullshit, but it does touch on the more substantive notion that Australia is an increasingly unequal society and that Canberra is in many ways isolated from the realities of the rest of Australia.

The-riotact.com highlights this in many ways, according to the 2009 RA media kit, 68% of rioters earn more than $50K a year, almost 20% earn more than $125K. According to the ATO, the median full time earnings of Australian employees was $44,222 in 08/09. That means that 50% of Australian employees earn less than $44k a year.

Some very good points, especially about Canberra and the RiotACT not being representative of wider Australia.

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NoImRight 1:51 pm
15 Dec 11
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The story is a light light on detail and balance beyond its shock horror motif

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knuckles 2:00 pm
15 Dec 11
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Isn’t the Daily Telegraph aimed at this demographic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUfTaey7NGk&feature=related

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Postalgeek 2:05 pm
15 Dec 11
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arescarti42 said :

p1 said :

For anyone tempted to be outraged by this story (or anything that comes out of Mr Abbott’s mouth), I direct you to this.

All in all that ABC opinion piece is pretty poorly written and somewhat misleading. A couple of things that stood out to me:

1. GDP growth is totally meaningless unless it is on a per capita basis. If your population is growing at 4%, you need 4% GDP growth just to not go backwards.
2. The assertion that the prosperity of the last few decades was not a big unsustainable debt bubble because government debt is low. Lets just ignore the fact that Australian private debt per capita is now larger than it was in the US before their debt bubble exploded.

Sure, the Daily Telegraph story is mostly just bogan pandering bullshit, but it does touch on the more substantive notion that Australia is an increasingly unequal society and that Canberra is in many ways isolated from the realities of the rest of Australia.

The-riotact.com highlights this in many ways, according to the 2009 RA media kit, 68% of rioters earn more than $50K a year, almost 20% earn more than $125K. According to the ATO, the median full time earnings of Australian employees was $44,222 in 08/09. That means that 50% of Australian employees earn less than $44k a year.

100% of RiotAct will happily tell you 50% of RiotAct is isolated from reality. Don’t need stats for that.

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poetix 2:19 pm
15 Dec 11
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Postalgeek said :

100% of RiotAct will happily tell you 50% of RiotAct is isolated from reality. Don’t need stats for that.

You’re wrong! Just wrong!

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basketofcat 2:21 pm
15 Dec 11
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What I’d like to know is how many of these highly paid public servants are real Canberrans. I bet most of the upper echelons of the SES are in fact FIFOs who wouldn’t otherwise dream of coming to Canberra.

In fact, do you know what we need? We need a tax on power. The higher up the APS you go, the more tax you pay. The further away from power you are, the less tax you pay. The Secs. of AGs, Defence, etc should be paid absolutely nothing.

The stupid people of Western Sydney, with the influence they wield over the nation, should be paying us all for the privilege of being allowed to live…

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Jivrashia 2:36 pm
15 Dec 11
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rosscoact said :

dey turk err jurbz!

Jim Jones said :

TERK ER JEEEERRRRRBS!!!

BimboGeek said :

DEeEeRK er DEeEEeeEeERBS

DEEERRRP???

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harvyk1 3:06 pm
15 Dec 11
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Here is the thing, if the nation feels that Canberra has such great job prospects compared to the rest of the nation, why do they not just get off their collective arse’s and move to Canberra?

It’s not like there is Customs \ Immigration \ Visa issues which would stop them from coming here. In years gone by many a person has moved because there was greater opportunity for work in other towns.

Of course the answer as to why not is it’s far easier to sit there and complain how life is not fair…

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Classified 3:52 pm
15 Dec 11
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harvyk1 said :

Here is the thing, if the nation feels that Canberra has such great job prospects compared to the rest of the nation, why do they not just get off their collective arse’s and move to Canberra?

It’s not like there is Customs \ Immigration \ Visa issues which would stop them from coming here. In years gone by many a person has moved because there was greater opportunity for work in other towns.

Of course the answer as to why not is it’s far easier to sit there and complain how life is not fair…

The same reason lots of people do (or don’t do) a whole range of things. The path of least resistance.

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