Annoying. Another symptom of the “f you, I’m allright Jack/Jill attitude that is far too widespread.

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

Tony said :

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

Deary me…..its good thing this only internet heroics and not something someone would actually do

Tony said :

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

Translation: I like to make you slow down, because it makes me feel good about myself.

more than likely a white commodore with an overly confident driver is speeding towards you AsproBoy!

can’t say I have noticed this much on single lane roads around town (mind you these are fairly limited outside of suburban streets).

It’s the crappy design of the roads. Case in point is the T junction at the top of Mugga Lane. When you get a green light to turn right into Yamba Drive. You think (if you were an out of towner) that you have a lane to yourself. Low and behold, just 50 metres later as you accelerate, your lane runs out very quickly and the drivers in the right hand lane heading the same direction as you are going too fast to slow down, or the adjacent left hand lane is chockers with cars and they can’t pull over for you. Many merging lanes are like this this in Canberra. Who ever designs them should have their wages garnished for stupidity.

Tony said :

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

The original post was mostly about T intersections, not merging. Primarily, the increasing frequency at which cars enter single or dual 60-80km/hr lanes from a standing start and either can not accurately judge the time it will take an oncoming car to reach them, or they simply don’t give a rats.

The worst examples of this phenomenon can be found regularly on Sulwood Drive, Erindale Drive, Hindmarsh Drive, Namatjira Drive and Isabella Drive. Apologies to our northern friends, I am sure this happens north of the lake as well.

I do however, fully agree with Futreproof that very short slip lanes are no solution to this problem.

AsproBoy said :

Primarily, the increasing frequency at which cars enter single or dual 60-80km/hr lanes from a standing start and either can not accurately judge the time it will take an oncoming car to reach them, or they simply don’t give a rats.

Oh, look, another Canberra driver who believes he owns the road in front of him.

Here’s a clue, moron: it is your “oncoming car”‘s driver’s responsibility to slow down if there’s a car in front of him. You have no right to an untrammeled access to any stretch of road doing your choice of speed on it. So long as the turning car’s driver makes a safe maneuver, he has no other reponsibility to the idiots who think they own the road he just turned onto, up to and including those idiots having to slow down.

To the OP:
I would suggest that you are belatedly noticing standard driving behaviour from people who’ve driven in the real world.
There’s something special in the Canberra water that makes people think nobody’s allowed to get in front of them.

I understand your disappointment, but you’ll have to understand – the problem is yours.

HenryBG said :

To the OP:
I would suggest that you are belatedly noticing standard driving behaviour from people who’ve driven in the real world.
There’s something special in the Canberra water that makes people think nobody’s allowed to get in front of them.

I understand your disappointment, but you’ll have to understand – the problem is yours.

Thanks for the insight Henry. You have definitively demonstrated that encountering self-important arse hats like yourself on the roads is no doubt the root cause of my problem.

AsproBoy said :

HenryBG said :

To the OP:
I would suggest that you are belatedly noticing standard driving behaviour from people who’ve driven in the real world.
There’s something special in the Canberra water that makes people think nobody’s allowed to get in front of them.

I understand your disappointment, but you’ll have to understand – the problem is yours.

Thanks for the insight Henry. You have definitively demonstrated that encountering self-important arse hats like yourself on the roads is no doubt the root cause of my problem.

How ironic – somebody who doesn’t believe he should have to slow down for other traffic on the road calling somebody else a “self-important arse hat”.
Not that I have the faintest idea what an “arse hat” is – some kind of american thing learnt from the idiot box, I have no doubt.

AsproBoy said :

HenryBG said :

To the OP:
I would suggest that you are belatedly noticing standard driving behaviour from people who’ve driven in the real world.
There’s something special in the Canberra water that makes people think nobody’s allowed to get in front of them.

I understand your disappointment, but you’ll have to understand – the problem is yours.

Thanks for the insight Henry. You have definitively demonstrated that encountering self-important arse hats like yourself on the roads is no doubt the root cause of my problem.

I”m with Aspro here. You can’t just pull out straight in front of an oncoming car and expect them to slam on the brakes to accommodate you. Cars on the main road have right of way over cars entering, who need to give way to oncoming traffic.

HenryBG said :

AsproBoy said :

HenryBG said :

To the OP:
I would suggest that you are belatedly noticing standard driving behaviour from people who’ve driven in the real world.
There’s something special in the Canberra water that makes people think nobody’s allowed to get in front of them.

I understand your disappointment, but you’ll have to understand – the problem is yours.

Thanks for the insight Henry. You have definitively demonstrated that encountering self-important arse hats like yourself on the roads is no doubt the root cause of my problem.

How ironic – somebody who doesn’t believe he should have to slow down for other traffic on the road calling somebody else a “self-important arse hat”.
Not that I have the faintest idea what an “arse hat” is – some kind of american thing learnt from the idiot box, I have no doubt.

Look Grandpa Simpson… I am obviously confusing you with technicalities and “jive talk” that those dang blasted kids always go on with, so I’ll dumb it down a little.

My fundamental assertion is that pulling out into the path of an oncoming car doing 80km/hr, causing said oncoming car to brake heavily to avoid a collision, is an unsafe manoeuvre.

I’ll wait here while you go and google “arse hat”.

Tony said :

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

OMG i hope you realize that that is a Give Way line not a merge line if your coming in on the GDE

The title reminded me of this joke….

How do you tell who i the male porn star at the service station?

He is the guy who almost fills his tank with peterol, hs a silly look on his face and then takes out the nozzle and sprays petrol everywhere.

Having driven in Perth recently, allow me to disabuse of the notion that this is a uniquely Canberran phenomenon. If anything, it happened to me more frequently over there (small sample, obviously). Then again, I was driving a small car, so there might be something in your theory – it actually makes some sense that people are less willing to run the gauntlet in front of a tank-sized 4WD than a tinny little econobox.

Tony said :

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

It’s not that hard. Put your indicator on as soon as you know you will have to merge down the road. Find even a small gap in the traffic and keep pace with the traffic. If, in the rare instance, the car at the back of the gap is a pig and tries to close the gap or is going too fast, start aligning your self with the gap behind that car. If I’ve been indicating long enough, it is very rare that more than one car will try to block me off and most will actually slow down and create a bigger gap to let me in. If, once you’ve entered traffic, you feel that you are going too fast, then gradually slow down to a speed you are comfortable with.

In the same vein, cars that don’t indicate, don’t make it clear which gap they are aiming for in traffic and ram their way into 80km/h traffic while only doing 60 are asking for trouble. I will happily slow down and make more space for a merging car if they make it clear that they are aiming for a spot in front of me. I hate it though when I have to jump on the anchors because I thought the reason they were going so slowly was because they were aiming for the spot behind me.

I’ve owned a few cars, large and small, and can report a direct relationship between the size of the car and amount of respect you’re afforded. In a small car people always have to make that desperate lunge from behind to close you out on the Form One Lane etc. Doesn’t happen so much in a big car. And I don’t think it’s just Canberra.

AsproBoy – This is my theory:

Our Governments and law enforcement agencies have, for many years now, been neglecting to properly enforce our road rules. A fascination with enforcing the speed limit rules and neglecting the enforcement of all other road rules has caused a significant increase in the number of poorly skilled, arrogant and ignorant drivers on our roads. One of the basic road rules that is so commonly broken, is the use the indicators. It is such a common occurrence that drivers waiting at T intersections (and roundabouts) are frustrated when the car they’re waiting for, turns left into the same side street without indicating their intentions to do so. The simple use of the indicator in this situation would have allowed the waiting car to proceed. This is happening so often that drivers are just pulling out of intersections because they assume that the approaching car may well turn off beforehand anyway. Indicators seem to have become redundant.

I’m not sure how to obtain the stats, but I’d love to know how many drivers have been booked over the last few months for failing to indicate. I would bet that it is not very many, if any.

I drive over 60,000kms on Canberra’s roads each year and I find this is a rule broken by all types of drivers, old, young, middle aged, male and female.

conversely, I got honked at for waiting for oncoming traffic to pass before turning onto the 80km zone (i.e. Hayden Drive)

Very Busy said :

. One of the basic road rules that is so commonly broken, is the use the indicators.

Wow – a new thread on this very subject, how coincidental.

http://the-riotact.com/indicate-indicate-indicate/65497

Agree with Very Busy… people seem to be doing what they can get away with. Our road rules have become road suggestions.

One that fascinates me is how people will slide into the left lane of a roundabout to turn left when there’s a car coming around the roundabout (especially on very small roundabouts). if the car already on the roundabout intends to exit left and then needs to be in the left lane to turn left soon after, it gets very difficult as there’s suddenly a car on their left.

Rollersk8r said :

I’ve owned a few cars, large and small, and can report a direct relationship between the size of the car and amount of respect you’re afforded. In a small car people always have to make that desperate lunge from behind to close you out on the Form One Lane etc. Doesn’t happen so much in a big car. And I don’t think it’s just Canberra.

Similarly, the general respect afforded by other drivers can be affected by the age of the vehicle you drive. I have an old classic jalopy I take out from time to time and I notice a sharp increase in lack of courtesy compared to driving my modern car.

AsproBoy said :

Tony said :

If im merging into an 80km/h zone and actually doing 80km/h, and the traffic Im merging into is doing 90-95, I dont care I merge anyway you speeding pricks, alla GDE.

The original post was mostly about T intersections, not merging.

Yeah, the original post made this very clear, haha.

I hate it especially when they do that if there is no car to be seen behind me. Could you not just wait 2 more seconds and then turn onto an empty road?!

HenryBG said :

AsproBoy said :

Primarily, the increasing frequency at which cars enter single or dual 60-80km/hr lanes from a standing start and either can not accurately judge the time it will take an oncoming car to reach them, or they simply don’t give a rats.

Oh, look, another Canberra driver who believes he owns the road in front of him.

Here’s a clue, moron: it is your “oncoming car”‘s driver’s responsibility to slow down if there’s a car in front of him. You have no right to an untrammeled access to any stretch of road doing your choice of speed on it. So long as the turning car’s driver makes a safe maneuver, he has no other reponsibility to the idiots who think they own the road he just turned onto, up to and including those idiots having to slow down.

Yeah giving way to cars with the right of way is soooo last century.

It’s getting reasonably easy to pick the people who have never driven around Australia and other parts of the world. They’re the ones convinced that certain types of driving behaviour is restricted to certain areas.
Attention:
Dickheads are an international phenomenon. Bitching about them on an online forum just shows how close your horizons really are.

Some wanker pulled out in front of me (from the right) last Thusday while I was going southbound at 105km/h in the right hand lane on the Monaro Highway. This was at the intersection which leads to the houses/properties a kilometre or so before the gaol. I had to apply my brakes very hard and wrestle with the wheel in order to maintain control. All the while hoping that the people behind were not going to crash into the back of me.

I can’t remember exactly what type of vehicle it was because the idiot is such a nobody he is of little consequence to my life, but it was deffinately white and may have even been the dreaded commodore. I recall had NSW plates and he turned right down Lanyon Drive towards that town in NSW…

HenryBG said :

AsproBoy said :

Thanks for the insight Henry. You have definitively demonstrated that encountering self-important arse hats like yourself on the roads is no doubt the root cause of my problem.

How ironic – somebody who doesn’t believe he should have to slow down for other traffic on the road calling somebody else a “self-important arse hat”.
Not that I have the faintest idea what an “arse hat” is – some kind of american thing learnt from the idiot box, I have no doubt.

Wouldn’t that then be an “ASS hat”??

Funky1 said :

HenryBG said :

AsproBoy said :

Thanks for the insight Henry. You have definitively demonstrated that encountering self-important arse hats like yourself on the roads is no doubt the root cause of my problem.

How ironic – somebody who doesn’t believe he should have to slow down for other traffic on the road calling somebody else a “self-important arse hat”.
Not that I have the faintest idea what an “arse hat” is – some kind of american thing learnt from the idiot box, I have no doubt.

Wouldn’t that then be an “ASS hat”??

or maybe even ‘ass-cap’ – or is that a cap being popped into his ass? so yanky, so chic – i can’t keep up…

and to answer asproboy’s question – something more sinister is my take… reptoids, perhaps?