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Capital Metro Consultation Heads to Dickson

By Canfan - 11 July 2014 39

As a part of the ongoing Capital Metro consultation, agency staff will be at the Dickson Shopping Centre tomorrow (12 July) to discuss the proposed design for light rail in Canberra.

Minister for Capital Metro, Simon Corbell, urged Canberrans to visit Dickson to have their say on how they want light rail to look.

“There will be information for you to comment on, learn about and ask questions of agency staff,” Mr Corbell said.

“As this is an early design, no decisions have been made on the final product, so this is the most opportune time to influence the end design.”

The design proposal has been based on in-depth planning and builds on previous community feedback.

“The feedback provided during this consultation will feed into next stages of design, which will provide the basis for expressions of interest later this year.

“It is vital the community take the opportunity to provide their feedback on how they would like the system to look and operate.

“Light Rail will deliver so much more than a transport benefit for Canberra and this is why the government has been so intent on planning for Canberra’s future. We are committed to delivering city-changing infrastructure and look forward to hearing what the community have to say about these great designs.”

Capital Metro will be at the Dickson Shopping Centre, near Woolworths, between 9.30am and 1.30pm. In case of bad weather, the team will be in the Dickson Library.

(Simon Corbell Media Release)

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Capital Metro Consultation Heads to Dickson
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rommeldog56 10:10 pm
11 Jul 14
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There seems to be no stopping them. Look at the wording !

They are not even waiting for the results of the various studies underway to come in – nor the Benefits Costs Ratio (BCR) – stuff all that – they will just plough on anyway !

There isn’t even a pretence of a fully informed decision.

It really does begger belief.

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dungfungus 1:35 pm
12 Jul 14
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I wonder if they have the results of the “services located under Northbourne Avenue audit” to release.
The Capital Metro “final product” has already been decided. It will be the same as the Gold Coast and Adelaide light rail systems.
Something to consider:
Population of Gold Coast is approx. 530,000 and the light rail cost was over twice what was budgeted.
Population of Adelaide is approx. 1,280,000.
Population of Gungahlin to City strip is about 60,000 and it is already adequately served by ACTION.
There is really nothing more to say.
Corbell is committing electoral suicide but he has no accountability and a handsome guaranteed ratepayer funded pension to look forward to.

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Canberroid 2:26 pm
12 Jul 14
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rommeldog56 said :

There seems to be no stopping them. Look at the wording !

They are not even waiting for the results of the various studies underway to come in – nor the Benefits Costs Ratio (BCR) – stuff all that – they will just plough on anyway !

There isn’t even a pretence of a fully informed decision.

It really does begger belief.

We get it – you don’t like light rail for Canberra. You’ve posted who knows how many posts reiterating the fact that you don’t like it. Since the project is happening whether you like it or not, can we please move the discussion on from simply whether or not it should be happening?

There are plenty of interesting things to discuss about the project. Maybe some commenters even learnt the difference between a battery and a supercapacitor last time we ventured beyond the basic “I don’t like it” whingefest.

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miz 3:28 pm
12 Jul 14
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‘so much more’ could be delivered with buses for way less – if only they would actually look at the evidence. But there is none so blind as those who will not see.

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JC 6:12 pm
12 Jul 14
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dungfungus said :

I wonder if they have the results of the “services located under Northbourne Avenue audit” to release.
The Capital Metro “final product” has already been decided. It will be the same as the Gold Coast and Adelaide light rail systems.
Something to consider:
Population of Gold Coast is approx. 530,000 and the light rail cost was over twice what was budgeted.
Population of Adelaide is approx. 1,280,000.
Population of Gungahlin to City strip is about 60,000 and it is already adequately served by ACTION.
There is really nothing more to say.
Corbell is committing electoral suicide but he has no accountability and a handsome guaranteed ratepayer funded pension to look forward to.

If you are going to compare cities you should be doing like for like, not comparing oranges to apples.

You quote total population statistics for two cities then just the corridor City to Gungahlin. So typical of you liberals trwist numbers to suit your argument with no context.

Now if 60k live along the route of the proposed light rail, your figure of course, then that would be just under 1/6th of the total ACT population (of ~380,000), along one narrow corridor. Guess goes to show that the population density along this route is quite high especially given that it isn’t even fully developed.

Oh BTW population density is what is important not total size of cities. There are plenty of cities world wide the same size, population wise and smaller that have light rail they of course, they do of course have higher population densities, a bit like the corridor to Gungahlin. Population density along the route is why the only route in Canberra that makes sense if to Gungahlin.

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rommeldog56 7:20 pm
12 Jul 14
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Canberroid said :

rommeldog56 said :

There seems to be no stopping them. Look at the wording !

They are not even waiting for the results of the various studies underway to come in – nor the Benefits Costs Ratio (BCR) – stuff all that – they will just plough on anyway !

There isn’t even a pretence of a fully informed decision.

It really does begger belief.

We get it – you don’t like light rail for Canberra. You’ve posted who knows how many posts reiterating the fact that you don’t like it. Since the project is happening whether you like it or not, can we please move the discussion on from simply whether or not it should be happening?

There are plenty of interesting things to discuss about the project. Maybe some commenters even learnt the difference between a battery and a supercapacitor last time we ventured beyond the basic “I don’t like it” whingefest.

Yeah – way to go canberraoid.

Is it any wonder that this ACT Gov’t is running all over Ratepayers ! Apathy seems to reign supreme here. I suppose those who oppose the Light Rail should just be “processed” through a Light Rail acceptance re education program.

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gazket 9:45 pm
12 Jul 14
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clickety clack, clickety clack, noisy white elephant coming thru.

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gooterz 10:12 pm
12 Jul 14
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Canberroid said :

rommeldog56 said :

There seems to be no stopping them. Look at the wording !

They are not even waiting for the results of the various studies underway to come in – nor the Benefits Costs Ratio (BCR) – stuff all that – they will just plough on anyway !

There isn’t even a pretence of a fully informed decision.

It really does begger belief.

We get it – you don’t like light rail for Canberra. You’ve posted who knows how many posts reiterating the fact that you don’t like it. Since the project is happening whether you like it or not, can we please move the discussion on from simply whether or not it should be happening?

There are plenty of interesting things to discuss about the project. Maybe some commenters even learnt the difference between a battery and a supercapacitor last time we ventured beyond the basic “I don’t like it” whingefest.

Fine.

Are they going to gold plate the cars or go for platinum?

I don’t think it’ll make too much difference for overall cost.

Also they should put full size sofa’s in there the few people who ride it may as make use of the space.

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dungfungus 8:31 am
13 Jul 14
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gooterz said :

Canberroid said :

rommeldog56 said :

There seems to be no stopping them. Look at the wording !

They are not even waiting for the results of the various studies underway to come in – nor the Benefits Costs Ratio (BCR) – stuff all that – they will just plough on anyway !

There isn’t even a pretence of a fully informed decision.

It really does begger belief.

We get it – you don’t like light rail for Canberra. You’ve posted who knows how many posts reiterating the fact that you don’t like it. Since the project is happening whether you like it or not, can we please move the discussion on from simply whether or not it should be happening?

There are plenty of interesting things to discuss about the project. Maybe some commenters even learnt the difference between a battery and a supercapacitor last time we ventured beyond the basic “I don’t like it” whingefest.

Fine.

Are they going to gold plate the cars or go for platinum?

I don’t think it’ll make too much difference for overall cost.

Also they should put full size sofa’s in there the few people who ride it may as make use of the space.

“Are they going to gold plate the cars or go for platinum?”

Well, rhodium didn’t work out despite the massive (still undisclosed) cost so gold or platinum are surely contenders.

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TaxedContractor 10:25 am
13 Jul 14
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miz said :

‘so much more’ could be delivered with buses for way less – if only they would actually look at the evidence. But there is none so blind as those who will not see.

Exactly.

Mr Corbell, I’ll tell you how probably 90% of Canberran’s want their light rail to look. It is also how seemingly all but 1 study also suggests they look, and strangely enough very similar to every other small metro centre’s light rail outcome.

They could be orange, have 2 doors, 6 wheels – possibly more. They could utilise existing overnight parking infrastructure, could cover all of Canberra immediately, can be routed on demand and routes changed at whim, and even at their current loss making operation they would not delve Canberra into unneeded debt for the next 20+ years.

That’s correct – they are called buses. This is how we want the system to look and operate, not some narrow minded monument to a council who (lets face it) won’t even be around by the time it has it’s first breakdown and causes traffic chaos to the “proper” light rail.

How about we all give up on this plan and invest the money into Action and provide a benefit for the whole city?

I’m sure the rate payers would even be happy to pay for a trip to the local model train exhibitions twice a year in order to satisfy the desires of Capital Metro et al…

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davo101 9:09 am
14 Jul 14
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Canberroid said :

There are plenty of interesting things to discuss about the project.

Indeed. For example how much is this going to cost and who is going to pay for it?

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Canberroid 12:52 pm
14 Jul 14
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rommeldog56 said :

Canberroid said :

rommeldog56 said :

There seems to be no stopping them. Look at the wording !

They are not even waiting for the results of the various studies underway to come in – nor the Benefits Costs Ratio (BCR) – stuff all that – they will just plough on anyway !

There isn’t even a pretence of a fully informed decision.

It really does begger belief.

We get it – you don’t like light rail for Canberra. You’ve posted who knows how many posts reiterating the fact that you don’t like it. Since the project is happening whether you like it or not, can we please move the discussion on from simply whether or not it should be happening?

There are plenty of interesting things to discuss about the project. Maybe some commenters even learnt the difference between a battery and a supercapacitor last time we ventured beyond the basic “I don’t like it” whingefest.

Yeah – way to go canberraoid.

Is it any wonder that this ACT Gov’t is running all over Ratepayers !

Apathy seems to reign supreme here. I suppose those who oppose the Light Rail should just be “processed” through a Light Rail acceptance re education program.

I’m having trouble constructing a reply with which the moderator agrees (but evidently they kindly let this one through).

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TaxedContractor 8:18 am
15 Jul 14
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Oh look, yet another report that touts buses as the best light rail network for Canberra:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/productivity-commission-casts-doubt-on-light-rail-benefits-20140714-zt75q.html

Starting to wonder if anyone at the council chambers can actually read?

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rosscoact 8:32 am
15 Jul 14
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TaxedContractor said :

Oh look, yet another report that touts buses as the best light rail network for Canberra:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/productivity-commission-casts-doubt-on-light-rail-benefits-20140714-zt75q.html

Starting to wonder if anyone at the council chambers can actually read?

I’ll wait until the thread comes out before shooting the fish in the barrel

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dungfungus 9:11 am
15 Jul 14
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