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Capital Metro consultation heads to Gunghalin

By Canfan - 19 July 2014 43

Capital Metro Agency staff will be in the Gungahlin Village Shopping Centre, near the Coles supermarket, today (19 July) to further discuss the proposed design for light rail in Canberra.

Minister for Capital Metro, Simon Corbell, who will be in attendance during the morning, urged Canberrans to visit the team at Gungahlin and to find out more information and to have their say on the proposals for light rail.

“There will be information for you to comment on, learn about, and ask questions of our agency staff,” Mr Corbell said.

“As this is an early design, no decisions have been made on the final product, so this is the most opportune time to influence the end design.”

The design proposal has been based on in-depth planning and builds on previous community feedback.

“The feedback provided during this consultation will feed into next stages of design, which will provide the basis for expressions of interest later this year.

“It is vital the community take the opportunity to provide their feedback on how they would like the system to look and operate.

“Light Rail will deliver so much more than a transport benefit for Canberra and this is why the government has been so intent on planning for Canberra’s future. We are committed to delivering city-changing infrastructure and look forward to hearing what the community have to say about these great designs.”

Capital Metro will be at the Gungahlin Village Shopping Centre, near Coles, today from 9.30am to 1.30pm.

(Simon Corbell Media Release)

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Capital Metro consultation heads to Gunghalin
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bundah 10:27 am
19 Jul 14
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It is now perfectly clear to me that Corbell is determined for light rail to become a reality which will become his legacy for Canberra as he nears retirement from the assembly.

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bigfeet 12:33 pm
19 Jul 14
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bundah said :

It is now perfectly clear to me that Corbell is determined for light rail to become a reality which will become his legacy for Canberra as he nears retirement from the assembly.

This was the response Capital Metro gave at the May Gunghalin Community Council meeting of 14 May.

Q: What guarantees do we have for the project to continue if there is a change in the government?
A: Current government wants to have project underway before the next election to avoid it being cut.

source: http://www.gcc.asn.au/meeting-minutes/public-meeting-14-may-2014

Its obvious that any ‘consultation’ taking place is purely cosmetic. Canberra is getting this white elephant whether we want or need it. No matter what anyone says.

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Masquara 12:47 pm
19 Jul 14
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bundah said :

It is now perfectly clear to me that Corbell is determined for light rail to become a reality which will become his legacy for Canberra as he nears retirement from the assembly.

Yep. Consultation conschmultation. Pigheaded approach on this government’s part.

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gooterz 12:50 pm
19 Jul 14
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When are they going to visit the rest of Canberra?

Surely whatever is adopted in the first link will have significant ramifications to what will be available for the rest of Canberra?

Are we going to have a different systems for all parts of Canberra or just going to ignore the rest of Canberra like usual?

Spending our one thousand million dollars they could at least try to pretend to care.

One thousand million dollars.

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MERC600 1:05 pm
19 Jul 14
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I missed the start of all this light rail business. Did it start from the good people out Gunga way complaining about their current bus service ( I mean were they complaining more loudly than the rest of the town about their bus service ).
Was there a campaign of letters to the editor about it, a groundswell of bitter complaints; petitions to the assembly, WIN news being requested to look at it. All that sort of thing. Or what

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bundah 1:37 pm
19 Jul 14
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bigfeet said :

bundah said :

It is now perfectly clear to me that Corbell is determined for light rail to become a reality which will become his legacy for Canberra as he nears retirement from the assembly.

This was the response Capital Metro gave at the May Gunghalin Community Council meeting of 14 May.

Q: What guarantees do we have for the project to continue if there is a change in the government?
A: Current government wants to have project underway before the next election to avoid it being cut.

source: http://www.gcc.asn.au/meeting-minutes/public-meeting-14-may-2014

Its obvious that any ‘consultation’ taking place is purely cosmetic. Canberra is getting this white elephant whether we want or need it. No matter what anyone says.

Precisely and all under the guise of democracy or is that pathocracy?

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Masquara 2:19 pm
19 Jul 14
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bigfeet said :

source: http://www.gcc.asn.au/meeting-minutes/public-meeting-14-may-2014

“More people seem to be happy to walk further to use light rail. Research has shown that they will walk about twice the distance from a light rail stop as compared to a bus stop. People will walk through the city centre to get to the terminals. ”

“Seem to be”? These research details need to be sniffed out and published.

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dungfungus 3:21 pm
19 Jul 14
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MERC600 said :

I missed the start of all this light rail business. Did it start from the good people out Gunga way complaining about their current bus service ( I mean were they complaining more loudly than the rest of the town about their bus service ).
Was there a campaign of letters to the editor about it, a groundswell of bitter complaints; petitions to the assembly, WIN news being requested to look at it. All that sort of thing. Or what

I am sure Gungahlin Al would be able to answer all your questions.

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bigfeet 4:55 pm
19 Jul 14
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MERC600 said :

I missed the start of all this light rail business. Did it start from the good people out Gunga way complaining about their current bus service ( I mean were they complaining more loudly than the rest of the town about their bus service ).
Was there a campaign of letters to the editor about it, a groundswell of bitter complaints; petitions to the assembly, WIN news being requested to look at it. All that sort of thing. Or what

What happened was Katy didn’t quite get enough seats to form government in 2012, so she asked Shane Rattenbury what would make him vote with her.

He wanted a new train set, so she agreed to buy it for him.

That is about the entire extent of consultation and planning that went into this billion dollar decision.

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gooterz 6:20 pm
19 Jul 14
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bigfeet said :

MERC600 said :

I missed the start of all this light rail business. Did it start from the good people out Gunga way complaining about their current bus service ( I mean were they complaining more loudly than the rest of the town about their bus service ).
Was there a campaign of letters to the editor about it, a groundswell of bitter complaints; petitions to the assembly, WIN news being requested to look at it. All that sort of thing. Or what

What happened was Katy didn’t quite get enough seats to form government in 2012, so she asked Shane Rattenbury what would make him vote with her.

He wanted a new train set, so she agreed to buy it for him.

That is about the entire extent of consultation and planning that went into this billion dollar decision.

The 6th year is Iron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_anniversary#Traditional_and_modern_anniversary_gifts

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miz 8:02 pm
19 Jul 14
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Mr Corbell keeps plying the ‘so much more’ line but doesn’t have anything whatsoever to back that up except some vague feel good policy. In fact, the opposite is true – there is a chorus of people and agencies, more knowledgable and experienced than him and his mickey mouse ‘Directorate,’ who disagree with him, including but not limited to Infrastructure Australia, Productivity Commission, and ironically even their own cost benefit analysis.
I say it again – there is none so blind as one who WILL not see. I am absolutely livid about the amount of money that they are already wasting on this unnecessary plaything when it could be far better spent on good bus rapid transport for all Canberrans.

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dungfungus 7:34 am
20 Jul 14
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gooterz said :

bigfeet said :

MERC600 said :

I missed the start of all this light rail business. Did it start from the good people out Gunga way complaining about their current bus service ( I mean were they complaining more loudly than the rest of the town about their bus service ).
Was there a campaign of letters to the editor about it, a groundswell of bitter complaints; petitions to the assembly, WIN news being requested to look at it. All that sort of thing. Or what

What happened was Katy didn’t quite get enough seats to form government in 2012, so she asked Shane Rattenbury what would make him vote with her.

He wanted a new train set, so she agreed to buy it for him.

That is about the entire extent of consultation and planning that went into this billion dollar decision.

The 6th year is Iron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wedding_anniversary#Traditional_and_modern_anniversary_gifts

And it was an “ironclad” agreement with The Green.
Is that “ironic” or what?

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wildturkeycanoe 6:20 am
21 Jul 14
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“It is vital the community take the opportunity to provide their feedback on how they would like the system to look and operate.”
The community seems to want it to look like the wireless green and white vehicles that run along our existing road infrastructure, capable of taking alternate routes if necessary and operate much like the present transport solution called ACTION buses. Don’t they get it yet? If it is so vital, why aren’t they listening?
Four hours of consultation in each of two of the areas affected is not a very maximal approach. How about a website or email address where Canberrans can speak their voice, instead of obtaining the feedback from those most likely to support it in a small window of limited opportunity?

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davo101 10:10 am
21 Jul 14
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Masquara said :

“Seem to be”? These research details need to be sniffed out and published.

To quote this paper from 2008:

There is not a well-established literature providing firm answers to either of the paper’s two main research questions about how far pedestrians walk and the factors that influence their route choice. While there are many rules of thumb and educated guesses, relatively little research exists on walking behaviour in general, and these topics in particular.

The “half-mile” rule of thumb is based on walking to a heavy-rail station, the “quarter-mile” on walking to a bus stop. The problem with finding research on light rail is that this term covers everything from “streetcars” to just short of full-blown heavy-rail–so picture anything between standing in the middle of a Melbourne street to waiting at Parramatta Station and how attractive a proposition that is.

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damien haas 10:37 am
21 Jul 14
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wildturkeycanoe said :

“It is vital the community take the opportunity to provide their feedback on how they would like the system to look and operate.”
The community seems to want it to look like the wireless green and white vehicles that run along our existing road infrastructure, capable of taking alternate routes if necessary and operate much like the present transport solution called ACTION buses. Don’t they get it yet? If it is so vital, why aren’t they listening?
Four hours of consultation in each of two of the areas affected is not a very maximal approach. How about a website or email address where Canberrans can speak their voice, instead of obtaining the feedback from those most likely to support it in a small window of limited opportunity?

Canberrans clearly prefer a different mode of public transport:

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/adult-bus-passenger-numbers-stagnating-20120729-236tk.html

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