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Capital Metro consultation heads to Tuggeranong

By 7 August 2014 19

Following on from several highly successful community consultations sessions at Dickson, Gungahlin and Erindale shopping centres, Capital Metro Agency and Environment and Planning staff will be in the Tuggeranong Hyperdome, between Kmart and Coles on the upper level, tomorrow (Friday 8 August) to discuss the proposed design for light rail in Canberra.

Minister for Capital Metro, Simon Corbell, urged Canberrans to attend the community consultation session at Tuggeranong and have their say on the proposals for the first stage of a potentially city-wide light rail network.

“There will be information for you to learn from, discuss, comment on and ask questions of myself and our agency staff,” Mr Corbell said.

“As the project is still in its early design stage this is an opportune time to influence the end design.”

The design proposal has been based on in-depth planning and previous community feedback.

The ACT Government is also developing a Light Rail Master Plan that identifies where the next priority stages are for Capital Metro. The master plan will identify a future, potentially city-wide, light rail network and guide decision making about future extensions to Capital Metro.

“The feedback provided during this, and other, community consultation sessions will feed into the next stages of design, which will provide the basis for expressions of interest later this year.

“It is vital the community take the opportunity to provide their feedback on how they would like Capital Metro to look and operate.

“Light rail will deliver so much more than just a transport solution for Canberra. This is why the government has been so intent on planning ahead for Canberra’s future. We are committed to delivering city-changing infrastructure and look forward to hearing what the community has to say about these great designs.”

(Simon Corbell Media Release)

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19 Responses to Capital Metro consultation heads to Tuggeranong
#1
rommeldog5610:24 pm, 07 Aug 14

Missed the one @ Erindale ’cause I didn’t hear about it.

So I definitely want to make this one.

Anyone know what times ?

#2
dungfungus7:46 am, 08 Aug 14

The people who run these information sessions must be masochists.
If I can find somewhere free to park in the Tuggeranong Town Centre I may attend.

#3
Madam Cholet8:19 am, 08 Aug 14

My problem with this whole light rail initiative is that if you listen to the Chief Minister talking it’s all about making sure that the costs are realistic and within a certain budget and that it’s not a guaranteed project at all. But read what is stated above and it’s a non-negotiable thing and will proceed. Who is telling the truth?

The options are light rail with Labor or no improved transport with the Libs.

#4
magiccar99:24 am, 08 Aug 14

“Following on from several highly successful community consultations sessions…”

How do you class a consultation as ‘highly successful’? What are the measurements between a successful and unsuccessful consultation?

These sessions are just the government’s way of feeling all warm and fuzzy that they included the general public. They wouldn’t seriously take consideration of the points raised from residents in the South, mainly because I’m yet to find one who doesn’t think this whole project stinks.

If they’re ‘master plan’ is to include light rail being extended towards Tuggeranong, I don’t foresee it anytime within the next 10-20 years (if ever).

#5
dungfungus9:44 am, 08 Aug 14

Madam Cholet said :

My problem with this whole light rail initiative is that if you listen to the Chief Minister talking it’s all about making sure that the costs are realistic and within a certain budget and that it’s not a guaranteed project at all. But read what is stated above and it’s a non-negotiable thing and will proceed. Who is telling the truth?

The options are light rail with Labor or no improved transport with the Libs.

The ACT Labor minority government’s push for an unviable tram service between City and Gungahlin has at least allowed us to examine in detail what such a tram service would offer over the existing ACTION bus services.
My conclusion is that ACTION buses are providing an excellent service and there is no need for an “improved” public transport service like the imaginary one that you say the Liberals won’t offer.
Common sense dictates that a new mode of public transport is driven by demand, not idealogy.

#6
dungfungus10:11 am, 08 Aug 14

magiccar9 said :

“Following on from several highly successful community consultations sessions…”

How do you class a consultation as ‘highly successful’? What are the measurements between a successful and unsuccessful consultation?

These sessions are just the government’s way of feeling all warm and fuzzy that they included the general public. They wouldn’t seriously take consideration of the points raised from residents in the South, mainly because I’m yet to find one who doesn’t think this whole project stinks.

If they’re ‘master plan’ is to include light rail being extended towards Tuggeranong, I don’t foresee it anytime within the next 10-20 years (if ever).

“Highly successful” to the Capital Metro Agency front line troops means they were able to get back to their office without being lynched.

#7
JessP1:23 pm, 08 Aug 14

They are there at the moment.

I just gave them a some lovely feedback basically – its a dreadful idea that will cost too much and benefit a very small proportion of the ACT and create more issues. That Action buses are a better solution….more busways, better infrastructure – like the bus lane into Civic from Belconnen, better timetables – and you are being d$#ks etc etc etc).

The lovely man took down my comments (not sure about the d$#k bit).

In return I asked for a Capital Metro squeezy thingee. He told me that they usually only give them to people who say nice things. So I told he was a very handsome man. I got one.

Lets hope this will become a collectors item of a project that didn’t get off the ground.

#8
miz1:50 pm, 08 Aug 14

It’s not consultation, it’s sales and marketing.

#9
HiddenDragon5:24 pm, 08 Aug 14

So did the successful consultation at Tuggeranong (doubtless it was) give any indication of when the trams might get there, and what it will cost for that to happen?

#10
rommeldog565:47 pm, 08 Aug 14

Pretty poor interpretation of “consultation” if they were there only during working hours.

They would no doubt have received even more “feedback” if it was held on a Saturday morning, when people could actually get there, instead of being at work.

#11
rommeldog565:56 pm, 08 Aug 14

miz said :

It’s not consultation, it’s sales and marketing.

Yeah – just another opportunity for the ACT Gov’t to “spin” the issue. If they really cared about feedback and economic management and good decision making, it would already have been shelved – or postponed.

As a staff member undertaking this sort of public consultation, you would have to be zealously committed to Light Rail – or just doing whats necessary to earn a buck ?

This “consultation” sounds more like just something they need to go through to tick a box on their project plan. The decision has probably already been made to go ahead anyway.

#12
John Moulis7:45 pm, 08 Aug 14

What part of “no” do they not understand?

#13
magiccar910:10 am, 09 Aug 14

John Moulis said :

What part of “no” do they not understand?

The ‘N’ bit, followed by the ‘O’ bit.

I’d like to see them release all of the comments on a website, and allow everyone to submit more feedback. Let us really see what the rest of the public think…

#14
Masquara5:26 pm, 09 Aug 14

magiccar9 said :

John Moulis said :

What part of “no” do they not understand?

The ‘N’ bit, followed by the ‘O’ bit.

I’d like to see them release all of the comments on a website, and allow everyone to submit more feedback. Let us really see what the rest of the public think…

ACT Labor seem to have added to “housing entrepreneur friends”, “transport infrastructure developer friends”. There has to be more to this entrenched determination to get this billion dollars into entrepreneurs’ pockets than a couple of the local pollies suddenly being overcome with “vision”.

#15
rommeldog568:48 am, 10 Aug 14

Masquara said :

magiccar9 said :

John Moulis said :

What part of “no” do they not understand?

The ‘N’ bit, followed by the ‘O’ bit.

I’d like to see them release all of the comments on a website, and allow everyone to submit more feedback. Let us really see what the rest of the public think…

ACT Labor seem to have added to “housing entrepreneur friends”, “transport infrastructure developer friends”. There has to be more to this entrenched determination to get this billion dollars into entrepreneurs’ pockets than a couple of the local pollies suddenly being overcome with “vision”.

Hmmmm………Never confuse rank stupidity for rat cunning.

I think this describes the ACT Gov’t in relation to the Light Rail project – and unfortunately for all ACT Ratepayers and residents, also applies in relation to far too many other ACT Gov’t decisions I’m afraid.

Living in the ACT is now like living in Noddy Land but governed by the Keystone Cops.

#16
Masquara11:51 am, 10 Aug 14

Question for ACT residents: would you rather the government spent your gazillion reconstructing up to 2,000 blue-asbestos-ridden dwellings for Canberrans who have had to abandon them, or build the light rail? Housing construction would, I would think, be a major stimulus for the economy and create more jobs than light rail. Check “Background Briefing” (Radio National) on the ABC website for the chilling extent of the problem.

#17
gooterz5:11 pm, 10 Aug 14

Masquara said :

Question for ACT residents: would you rather the government spent your gazillion reconstructing up to 2,000 blue-asbestos-ridden dwellings for Canberrans who have had to abandon them, or build the light rail? Housing construction would, I would think, be a major stimulus for the economy and create more jobs than light rail. Check “Background Briefing” (Radio National) on the ABC website for the chilling extent of the problem.

Why does it have to be either?

Can act afford to do big projects at the moment that don’t lead to permanent jobs?

DHS is looking at cutting 20,000. It’s about time we diversified our economy isn’t it?

#18
rosscoact5:35 pm, 10 Aug 14

Masquara said :

Question for ACT residents: would you rather the government spent your gazillion reconstructing up to 2,000 blue-asbestos-ridden dwellings for Canberrans who have had to abandon them, or build the light rail? Housing construction would, I would think, be a major stimulus for the economy and create more jobs than light rail. Check “Background Briefing” (Radio National) on the ABC website for the chilling extent of the problem.

Simply ridiculous!

#19
ghughes3:56 pm, 12 Aug 14

Masquara said :

Question for ACT residents: would you rather the government spent your gazillion reconstructing up to 2,000 blue-asbestos-ridden dwellings for Canberrans who have.

….. made a bad household consumer choice

I once bought a Hyundai excel … it was a bad consumer choice, I never expected ACT Ratepayers to compensate me for my bad consumer choice

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