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Centrepoint comes back to life with the Landmark Cafe

By johnboy - 27 June 2012 109

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Last year we were concerned that City Walk’s Centrepoint build was increasingly vacant.

Well it seems to be coming back to life. The Landmark Cafe putting a big service frontage onto City Walk has some real potential.

I particularly like the way the interior plays with relics of bygone ages like penny farthing bicycles and The Canberra Times.

What’s Your opinion?


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109 Responses to
Centrepoint comes back to life with the Landmark Cafe
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GregM 9:18 am
12 Aug 12
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Just to work through this a little but at a time…

Darkfalz said :

Honestly I am sick of the euphemistically termed “marriage equality” brigade and all their shout down, you’re a bigot if you don’t agree with me heavy handed crap.

‘I’m going to powder my nose’ is a euphemism for ‘I’m going to the toilet’. I’m not sure what you think ‘marriage equality’ is a euphemism for.

And of course there’s the anti-marriage equality brigade wit their heavy handed ‘we already heard you, so shut up already’ shout down tactics as demonstrated in you post. Feel free to call people on what you think they are doing wrong, but expect to get it back.

Darkfalz said :

You don’t do your case any good by projecting imaginary “hatred” on people who simply differ in their beliefs to try to take the moral high ground, and when you pull this crap in public you bring it on yourself.

People do have different opinions, and are entitled to them and to express them. However, name calling in load voices and heading outside in an attempt to hit the person you disagree with goes a bit further than having a disagreement and I’m happy to settle on bigot as a term to describe the one person who acted that way.

As for ‘pulling this crap in public’, well… permits for the event were granted, so permission was given by the ACT government for this to event to happen – just like the Landmark Cafe has been given permission to operate in its location. And a member of the Landmark Cafe staff was pulling crap in public – turning up the volume of music to a level where it would have been difficult to conduct business at the cafe, and verbally abusing people.

Darkfalz said :

We know how you feel, and you’re entitled to your opinion, but people shouldn’t have to hear it over megaphone during their lunch break.

Plainly the ACT government don’t agree, otherwise they wouldn’t have granted permission for the rally to occur. In terms of what happens in Civic, the place where the rally took place is a bit off the beaten track these days – most people tend to stick to the Canberra Centre where the majority of the businesses are. I’ve commented already that the Landmark Cafe had 200+ potential customers that the actions of one staff member ensured did not become actual customers.

I won’t bother with the rest, as I didn’t look at the video and, seriously, if you think this is similar to the Chik-Fil-A stuff, you are plainly given to excessive hyperbole. I’ve endeavoured to keep what’s in my posts to what actually happened on Saturday – and did so in a place where the Landmark Cafe has previously posted and can respond, if they choose.

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KB1971 10:59 am
12 Aug 12
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I know this is RA but how the fark did a thread on a new take away cafe turn into a debate abut euphemisms & marraige equality???

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Woody Mann-Caruso 11:11 am
12 Aug 12
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Honestly I am sick of the euphemistically termed “marriage equality” brigade and all their shout down, you’re a bigot if you don’t agree with me heavy handed crap

If you discriminate against people because of their sexual preferences, you’re a bigot.

Attempting to cast your bigotry as mere disagreement is a common tactic among bigots – see, for example, the classic ‘I’m not a racist, but’. It’s just saying ‘but’. We just ‘disagree’. It’s not hatred when I want to deny a person equality under the law because of who they are. I don’t hate them. I just want to be able to tell them what to do – including what they can say, where and when they can say it – in a way I’d never allow them to do to me.

I mean, you certainly don’t deserve a label like ‘bigot’ just for having the same sort of disagreement people have about, say, whether to have a fish taco for lunch, or a hot dog, with its long, rubbery meat nestled among two pillowy soft but springy buns. (I’m guessing you think it’s OK to have a hot dog – like the ones at Costco, that squirt hot juice in your mouth as you bite into them – as long as one of the people also has a fish taco. Under no circumstances can their be hot-dogging among two people with hot dogs only. Their hot dogs might touch, and the collapse of civilisation couldn’t be far away. Two fish tacos? Maybe, if both diners think that it’s unseasonably warm, and you get to watch.)

PS: Bigot.

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IvanH 11:29 am
12 Aug 12
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It’s not just a little ironic that, shortly after the Deputy Chief Minister declared at the rally that the ACT Government aspired to make the ACT the GLBTI friendliest state or territory in Australia that the following speeches were drowned out by the local business “Landmark Cafe”.

It’s just sad that this same business, while complaining that the rally was impacting his business (no more than the uncomfortable blaring music coming from his exterior speakers, no doubt), he also repeatedly told potential customers “we don’t want your business”.

I guess because they were either gay or were “friendly” to the GLBTI community.

The ACT has a long road ahead if it wants to achieve the Deputy Chief Minister’s mantle and, clearly, this business is doing little to positively impact the culture of the CBD.

(I would love to have had 200 people near my shop on a quiet Saturday. I guess their business model is different to mine but clearly offending people, scaring them away while playing uncomfortably loud music and taking a swing at the head of a guy who objected to his wife being called a b***h is the path to success)

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harley 11:39 am
12 Aug 12
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nsn said :

That signage is awful.

I refer to xkcd: “If you really hate someone, teach them to recognise bad kerning.”

http://xkcd.com/1015/

lmao… as if our apostrophe police weren’t enough. Now we roll out the secret kerning police.

I had to google it… 😐

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Pork Hunt 12:08 pm
12 Aug 12
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Does being a member of ACT PFLAG make one a “PFLAGgot”…?

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Masquara 12:35 pm
12 Aug 12
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Pork Hunt said :

Does being a member of ACT PFLAG make one a “PFLAGgot”…?

Absolutely no ingot for that.

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Here_and_Now 1:08 pm
12 Aug 12
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Darkfalz said :

Honestly I am sick of the euphemistically termed “marriage equality” brigade and all their shout down, you’re a bigot if you don’t agree with me heavy handed crap.

How is it a euphemism?

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Pork Hunt 1:35 pm
12 Aug 12
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Masquara said :

Pork Hunt said :

Does being a member of ACT PFLAG make one a “PFLAGgot”…?

Absolutely no ingot for that.

ingot noun:
a mass of metal cast in a convenient form for shaping, remelting, or refining.

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Flossie 9:53 pm
12 Aug 12
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Disposable 12:30 am
13 Aug 12
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Flossie said :

Canberra times covers the bigotry, oh I mean incident.
http://m.canberratimes.com.au/national/scuffle-at-rights-rally-20120811-241u0.html

Wow. The Canberra Times reports that it was the cafe owner.

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Darkfalz 2:01 am
13 Aug 12
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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

If you are homophobic, then yes, you are a bigot.

If you agree with the marriage act in your current form, it does make you a bigot. If your reason for that is you believe marriage should be reserved for one man and one woman, this does not make you a bigot. If you think that a child does best with a mother and a father, that does not make you a bigot.

If you hate people purely for being gay, you are a bigot. If you hate people for being “bible bashing rednecks” or “out of touch old people living in the past”, you are a bigot. And if you hate or denigrate people who don’t agree with your poltical views and don’t think they should be entitled to have them, including pulling out all stops to prevent them airing them, you are most definitely a bigot.

Here_and_Now said :

Darkfalz said :

Honestly I am sick of the euphemistically termed “marriage equality” brigade and all their shout down, you’re a bigot if you don’t agree with me heavy handed crap.

How is it a euphemism?

I could take any two different things and try to force people to call them the same under the auspices of “equality”. The only thing equal here is the number of people involved, just about everything else, including implications for family and society, is different. Not necessarily better or worse, but certainly different.

I could say I want “life equality” for to be aborted children, for example. Or I want “toilet equality” so that I can use female restrooms when I want to. Or “price equality” at the supermarket between different brands. Because how is “equality” ever a bad thing? They simple fact is they’ve taken to using it because it comes off nicer than saying they want gay marriage legalised.

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Darkfalz 2:09 am
13 Aug 12
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Flossie said :

Canberra times covers the bigotry, oh I mean incident.
http://m.canberratimes.com.au/national/scuffle-at-rights-rally-20120811-241u0.html

Interesting spin. Gay marriage crowd should be able to express their agenda, but cafe should not be able to “express” their music.

If I had a crowd of yahoos near me yelling stuff into a megaphone, regardless of what it was, I would personally do whatever I could to drown it out too. It isn’t like the cafe could just pick up and move, is it?

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 6:49 am
13 Aug 12
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Flossie said :

Canberra times covers the bigotry, oh I mean incident.
http://m.canberratimes.com.au/national/scuffle-at-rights-rally-20120811-241u0.html

Whoa, that crimes article says it was the cafe owner being the moron homophobe?

I really hope that’s not the case and they better come on here real soon to explain.

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 8:46 am
13 Aug 12
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Darkfalz said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

If you are homophobic, then yes, you are a bigot.

If you agree with the marriage act in your current form, it does make you a bigot. If your reason for that is you believe marriage should be reserved for one man and one woman, this does not make you a bigot. If you think that a child does best with a mother and a father, that does not make you a bigot.

If you hate people purely for being gay, you are a bigot. If you hate people for being “bible bashing rednecks” or “out of touch old people living in the past”, you are a bigot. And if you hate or denigrate people who don’t agree with your poltical views and don’t think they should be entitled to have them, including pulling out all stops to prevent them airing them, you are most definitely a bigot.

Here_and_Now said :

Darkfalz said :

Honestly I am sick of the euphemistically termed “marriage equality” brigade and all their shout down, you’re a bigot if you don’t agree with me heavy handed crap.

How is it a euphemism?

I could take any two different things and try to force people to call them the same under the auspices of “equality”. The only thing equal here is the number of people involved, just about everything else, including implications for family and society, is different. Not necessarily better or worse, but certainly different.

I could say I want “life equality” for to be aborted children, for example. Or I want “toilet equality” so that I can use female restrooms when I want to. Or “price equality” at the supermarket between different brands. Because how is “equality” ever a bad thing? They simple fact is they’ve taken to using it because it comes off nicer than saying they want gay marriage legalised.

You do not seem to know what bigot means, infact you appear to be some religious nutter with zero concept of equality and who wishes to push their own ignorance ontop others and who thinks their own views/opinions are more important than facts.

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