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Channel 10 No Reception?

By 22 January 2014 17

Hi folks

Staying with family in Canberra for a week, and just noticed they can’t get Channel 10 in Red Hill (direct sightline to Telstra Tower).

When doing the channel search it says weak signal, check antennae connection. All other channels are fine however.

Problem is same whether coming through Strongbox or TV (there is an on-roof aerial). Anyone know what the problem might be?

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17 Responses to
Channel 10 No Reception?
enrique 10:17 am
22 Jan 14
#1

If it’s an old antenna you may well need it readjusted or replaced. We had a similar issue when switching over from analog to digital.

http://www.yellowpages.com.au/find/television-antenna-services/greater-canberra-act

switch 10:36 am
22 Jan 14
#2

Very probably the antenna, or the feedwire to the TV is broken somewhere. Red Hill with line of sight should be able to pick up TEN, which is broadcast on channel 6, 177.5MHz here in the ACT from Black Mountain, but don’t let that worry you, on rabbit ears.

Rollersk8r 10:47 am
22 Jan 14
#3

I’m in the Belconnen area and Ch10 has always been the weakest channel. It’s ok most of the time but was unwatchable last night.

Have noticed all channels go bad when it’s really windy – but that wasn’t the case last night.

Roundhead89 11:07 am
22 Jan 14
#4

Just keep retuning until it shows up. That’s one of the quirks of digital TV. Every time one of those silly home shopping channels starts up, my Panasonic recorder shows a panel which I can’t get rid of until I retune. Inevitably WIN and Prime7 fail to retune and I lose most of my timer presets. Usually when I retune all the channels are then tuned.

astrojax 11:52 am
22 Jan 14
#5

just the teev trying to spare your folks the tedium of this channel? go with it…

Dilandach 12:20 pm
22 Jan 14
#6

I’m in Belconnen and have had the same issue this week, never had an issue previously. Channel 10 seems to be the main culprit but the other channels haven’t been that great either.

watto23 1:34 pm
22 Jan 14
#7

Lots of potential issues here. I actually replaced the wall socket with the F type screw in outlet (often used by Foxtel technicians) and also use RG6 coax cable from the wall outlet to the TV/PVR.

That seemed to fix my issues and outlets are notorious at being the weakest point especially the RF outlets that seem to bend easily.
The next step is rewiring the outlet to the antenna or replacing the antenna.

I find in Tuggeranong the worst channel is Prime then Win. And all those extra bloody shopping channels has made even the HD channels look awful due to the extra compression to fit everything in.
Even more of an excuse to watch DVD/Bluray or download.

Paul0075 2:31 pm
22 Jan 14
#8

I had issues with audio on ABC24 and Gem a couple of nights ago.

All other channels were fine and all signal strength readings on my TV were 100% signal and 100% signal quality. So I suspect there’s an issue on Black Mountain. The problem with having all TV and radio signals in one place is that if there’s an issue, it can affect multiple stations.

puggy 3:26 pm
22 Jan 14
#9

Paul0075 said :

I had issues with audio on ABC24 and Gem a couple of nights ago.

All other channels were fine and all signal strength readings on my TV were 100% signal and 100% signal quality. So I suspect there’s an issue on Black Mountain.

If you’re having trouble with ABC24, but not with ABC1, ABC2 etc, then it has nothing to do with reception or transmission. For each broadcaster, all their “channels” are on the same physical frequency. eg ABC1, ABC2, etc are multiplexed on the same bit stream that is transmitted on the one frequency. It is your TV that decodes out which ever one you’ve selected.

The problem would be either side of Black Mountain, either a problem with the TV, or whatever ABC is doing to their bit stream.

c_c™ 3:55 pm
22 Jan 14
#10

watto23 said :

Lots of potential issues here. I actually replaced the wall socket with the F type screw in outlet (often used by Foxtel technicians) and also use RG6 coax cable from the wall outlet to the TV/PVR.

That seemed to fix my issues and outlets are notorious at being the weakest point especially the RF outlets that seem to bend easily.
The next step is rewiring the outlet to the antenna or replacing the antenna.

I find in Tuggeranong the worst channel is Prime then Win. And all those extra bloody shopping channels has made even the HD channels look awful due to the extra compression to fit everything in.
Even more of an excuse to watch DVD/Bluray or download.

^Best to just ignore all this and get an actual expert in.

Jivrashia 4:06 pm
22 Jan 14
#11

Guys, check your antenna.
I don’t mean fix it yourself, but if it’s broken in some way then it will be blatantly obvious even for you (e.g. bent, broken, or half-severed coax cable).

watto23 10:11 am
23 Jan 14
#12

c_c™ said :

watto23 said :

Lots of potential issues here. I actually replaced the wall socket with the F type screw in outlet (often used by Foxtel technicians) and also use RG6 coax cable from the wall outlet to the TV/PVR.

That seemed to fix my issues and outlets are notorious at being the weakest point especially the RF outlets that seem to bend easily.
The next step is rewiring the outlet to the antenna or replacing the antenna.

I find in Tuggeranong the worst channel is Prime then Win. And all those extra bloody shopping channels has made even the HD channels look awful due to the extra compression to fit everything in.
Even more of an excuse to watch DVD/Bluray or download.

^Best to just ignore all this and get an actual expert in.

Sorry I should have said get someone in to do it, I wasn’t suggesting that, although the language used does actually suggest that!
But I did study engineering in this, so i know what I’m doing.

c_c™ 1:38 pm
23 Jan 14
#13

watto23 said :

c_c™ said :

watto23 said :

Lots of potential issues here. I actually replaced the wall socket with the F type screw in outlet (often used by Foxtel technicians) and also use RG6 coax cable from the wall outlet to the TV/PVR.

That seemed to fix my issues and outlets are notorious at being the weakest point especially the RF outlets that seem to bend easily.
The next step is rewiring the outlet to the antenna or replacing the antenna.

I find in Tuggeranong the worst channel is Prime then Win. And all those extra bloody shopping channels has made even the HD channels look awful due to the extra compression to fit everything in.
Even more of an excuse to watch DVD/Bluray or download.

^Best to just ignore all this and get an actual expert in.

Sorry I should have said get someone in to do it, I wasn’t suggesting that, although the language used does actually suggest that!
But I did study engineering in this, so i know what I’m doing.

You talk about rewiring and replacing the aerial, yet omit a mast head amplifier on the list, which a qualified person will be able to tell you is needed or not based on a signal level reading.

As for the quality of the channels, they’re VBR, and the other day the stream info was showing most of the HD channels hovering around 9-10Mbps, with GEM going up to 13 thanks to some more complex footage. But the quality also depends on the provenance of the content, is it a native HD source or upconverted. The shopping channels they’ve added are sub-SD channels, around 320 res. Haven’t noticed a decline in the HD channels quality.

astrojax 1:45 pm
23 Jan 14
#14

As for the quality of the channels, they’re VBR, and the other day the stream info was showing most of the HD channels hovering around 9-10Mbps, with GEM going up to 13 thanks to some more complex footage. But the quality also depends on the provenance of the content, is it a native HD source or upconverted. The shopping channels they’ve added are sub-SD channels, around 320 res. Haven’t noticed a decline in the HD channels quality.

is this just made up language with a few english words thrown in to make it look right? :)

ramblingted 6:30 pm
23 Jan 14
#15

Thanks for all the suggestions..its only the Big Bash I wanted to watch, so probably not worth getting an aerial guy out just for that. I’ll try an improving book instead!

watto23 7:53 pm
23 Jan 14
#16

c_c™ said :

You talk about rewiring and replacing the aerial, yet omit a mast head amplifier on the list, which a qualified person will be able to tell you is needed or not based on a signal level reading.

As for the quality of the channels, they’re VBR, and the other day the stream info was showing most of the HD channels hovering around 9-10Mbps, with GEM going up to 13 thanks to some more complex footage. But the quality also depends on the provenance of the content, is it a native HD source or upconverted. The shopping channels they’ve added are sub-SD channels, around 320 res. Haven’t noticed a decline in the HD channels quality.

The assumption being that an amplifier is usually only needed because the signal strength has changed or you have cabled up more outlets. If it was working its far more likely to be the cabling, but yes get a professional in. Oh its worth moving the cable and checking the sockets. I’ve seen that fix it sometimes and isn’t really something you need a professional for.

As for HD quality, compare it to what Fox broadcast HD at and you’ll realise its poor. SD is also poorer on free to air and that is definitely affected by extra channels regardless of how compressed Gold2 or TVSN are. To think they took forever to start up digital second and third channels and then all of a sudden the shopping/infomercial channels spring up like rabbits. Does anyone ever seriously watch these?

RB78 10:57 pm
23 Jan 14
#17

Dilandach said :

I’m in Belconnen and have had the same issue this week, never had an issue previously. Channel 10 seems to be the main culprit but the other channels haven’t been that great either.

I’m also in Belco and similarly have had no issues in the past, but I couldn’t watch Ten/One/Eleven tonight – TV just said ‘poor signal’. All other channels were fine.

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