Chic Henry transitions from Liberal Stooge to Liberal

By 22 January, 2014 19

The Canberra Times has the interesting news that Mr Summernats Chic Henry is now a paid up member of the Liberal Party:

Summernats legend Chic Henry has joined the ACT Liberal Party and has his sights set on a seat in the ACT Legislative Assembly in 2016.

The former Australian Motorist Party candidate has signed up to the party that gave him ”moral support” in his 2012 campaign for a seat in the electorate of Ginninderra.

The Canberra Liberals used Mr Henry’s bid for a seat on the crossbench to boost their chances of forming a minority government.

But the former car festival promoter missed out on the fifth seat in the northern electorate, which was claimed by Labor’s Yvette Berry, now a contender for the role of sixth minister in the ACT government.

It could have all been so different if Chic had just fronted up for the Lego Challenge.

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19 Responses to Chic Henry transitions from Liberal Stooge to Liberal
#1
buttermaker1:34 pm, 22 Jan 14

Chic Henry may just be the fillip the Canberra Liberals need up north. While young Al Coe is a strong local member and campaigner, Vicki Dunne has clearly been around the race track too often and her best days are past. She has never been a good vote winner and her days might just be numbered. Depending on the final electorate boundaries, Dunne could face strong competition from the likes of Coe, James Milligan, Elizabeth Lee, Jacob Vadakkedathu and of course Chic Henry. This might be Madam Speaker’s swan song! As she was the one who introduced the dreaded Tio Faulkner to the ACT by putting him on her staff, many would not be sorry to see the back of her.

#2
watto231:40 pm, 22 Jan 14

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

#3
buttermaker2:41 pm, 22 Jan 14

Good points Watto! Canberra Liberals are good at cannabilsing each other’s votes but not so good at growing the total vote. The Liberal Management Committee and staffers do special favours for favoured factional candidates, will be intersting to see whether Chic gets some real support at election time or is dudded in favour of hard right hack candidates. Chic needs to be going in with his eyes wide open. Party is broke, Hansen is failing to spark any one’s imagination, and the party has lead in its saddle bags with the likes of the totally unspirational Giulia with a G, Brendan Smyth, Vicki Dunne and Steve Doszpot. Steve has virtually vanished from the ACT political scene. He is essentially now in retirement mode for 3 years, as he has announced he will not be standing aagin. The dynamic Elizabeth lee gave him a real fright in 2013

#4
poetix2:59 pm, 22 Jan 14

The Lego Challenge…halcyon days of plastic.

Love that headline, by the way.

#5
Deref3:26 pm, 22 Jan 14

Not much of a transition, really.

#6
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd4:16 pm, 22 Jan 14

buttermaker said :

Good points Watto! Canberra Liberals are good at cannabilsing each other’s votes but not so good at growing the total vote. The Liberal Management Committee and staffers do special favours for favoured factional candidates, will be intersting to see whether Chic gets some real support at election time or is dudded in favour of hard right hack candidates. Chic needs to be going in with his eyes wide open. Party is broke, Hansen is failing to spark any one’s imagination, and the party has lead in its saddle bags with the likes of the totally unspirational Giulia with a G, Brendan Smyth, Vicki Dunne and Steve Doszpot. Steve has virtually vanished from the ACT political scene.

He is essentially now in retirement mode for 3 years, as he has announced he will not be standing aagin. The dynamic Elizabeth lee gave him a real fright in 2013

Now that you mention a entire group of morons like that, why do people wonder or complain when labor keeps getting in? There is no real alternative, right?

#7
rommeldog564:37 pm, 22 Jan 14

Does it really matter ???? How is Chic Henry any worse than any of the incompetent nob’s in the ACT Government anyway ???? At least he seems to have some experience in business that might help to encourage growth in the ACT economy.

The Libs have to gain power first. IMHO, the “bribe” of the Light Rail to the expanding Gungahlin Labor voter base may well ensure the re election of the current Labor/Greens Government. Unfortunately.

#8
colourful sydney rac4:45 pm, 22 Jan 14

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

although, he will probably bring a fair percentage of the d***head vote to the Liberal party in Ginninderra.

#9
HiddenDragon5:34 pm, 22 Jan 14

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

I had similar thoughts – some people might vote for a candidate if they stand as an independent or for a minor party (even though there may be little doubt the candidate, if elected, would support the Liberals in the Assembly) but would not vote for the same candidate if they formally stand as a Liberal.

There’s also the interesting question of whether the Liberal Democrats might give it a run in 2016.

#10
Thumper6:51 pm, 22 Jan 14

Who cares?

Makes absolutely no difference. The libs in this town are lazy and incompetent. Seriously, if they couldn’t win the election after the 2003 fires then they’re never going win a thing.

And then they still managed to not win last year.

End of story.

#11
HiddenDragon12:16 am, 23 Jan 14

Thumper said :

Who cares?

Makes absolutely no difference. The libs in this town are lazy and incompetent. Seriously, if they couldn’t win the election after the 2003 fires then they’re never going win a thing.

And then they still managed to not win last year.

End of story.

You make a compelling case, but I cling to the fond belief that this is not, quite, a one party state.

#12
Thumper8:40 am, 23 Jan 14

HiddenDragon said :

Thumper said :

Who cares?

Makes absolutely no difference. The libs in this town are lazy and incompetent. Seriously, if they couldn’t win the election after the 2003 fires then they’re never going win a thing.

And then they still managed to not win last year.

End of story.

You make a compelling case, but I cling to the fond belief that this is not, quite, a one party state.

Maybe not, but I still think my case is watertight :)

#13
housebound8:46 am, 23 Jan 14

If Chic Henry is a Liberal stooge for opposing Labor (to the point of supporting the Libs for government), why then are the Greens and other minor parties who oppose the Liberals (to the point of supporting Labor for government) not Labor stooges?

Or do stooges come in only one flavour in this place?

#14
watto239:45 am, 23 Jan 14

colourful sydney racing identity said :

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

although, he will probably bring a fair percentage of the d***head vote to the Liberal party in Ginninderra.

watto23 said :

Probably hurts the liberals more than helps. There biggest chance at forming a government in the ACT is by having a few right wing/moderate independents get voted in. He will just take another liberal members seat and not actually grow the vote enough to gain them another quota. He might help a little, but even Zed moving managed to get a 3rd seat in Brindabella, but they needed another high profile candidate to do the same elsewhere and even then it may just cannabalise votes from other liberal members, not get votes from swinging voters or voters of minor parties.

I had similar thoughts – some people might vote for a candidate if they stand as an independent or for a minor party (even though there may be little doubt the candidate, if elected, would support the Liberals in the Assembly) but would not vote for the same candidate if they formally stand as a Liberal.

There’s also the interesting question of whether the Liberal Democrats might give it a run in 2016.

Its probably even more so that as a liberal, people will look for another Independant to vote for. It also hedges bets with preferences if he stays independant. As a liberal I doubt he gets them the 3 quotas they need. As an independant if he could snag a half quota himself preferences would probably elect him and the Liberals would have effectively a third member.

Anyway we still have almost 3 years to go and Zed may get himself unelected from the senate and want his old job back :-)

#15
Jason715:09 pm, 04 Feb 14

You know what will change? Nothing. Labor and the Greens will continue to hold onto government because the liberals don’t care less about canberra – they just care about the own little internal battles.

And on another point, wasn’t Garry Kent dumped from the liberal party because he spoke out against the party problems? Now chic speaks out against the party not being able to manage money…

I wonder if Chic Henry is going to be punished like ol’ Garry was? I suspect not. Looks like Chic is allowed to say what he likes about that mob.

Maybe Chic will be the next Garry Kent and the party faceless men will have to punish chic too! If you ask me he should run for the hills and let the liberals eat themselves alive.

#16
Jason715:16 pm, 04 Feb 14

Thumper said :

Who cares?

Makes absolutely no difference. The libs in this town are lazy and incompetent. Seriously, if they couldn’t win the election after the 2003 fires then they’re never going win a thing.

And then they still managed to not win last year.

End of story.

But look at all the great ideas the liberals have and how well they manage their money! could you be serious voting for this mob? Sorry Chic. I might have voted for you but now that youre with the liberals you can foget it.

#17
ACL6:15 pm, 04 Feb 14

Jason71 clearly has no idea about how the Canberra Liberals work and how Gary Kent has damaged the brand. He was angry that he was not preselected and thinks that as the Party’s longest serving President that he is owed something by the Party.

The management committee determine when a member has crossed the line and if they should be reprimanded for it. Chic Henry has made one statement about party finances. Gary Kent made many. If Chic makes more statements without the party’s approval I am sure the Party will deal with it but the fact remains he made 1. Gary Kent made many.

That aside, Chic Henry will make a great contribution to the Liberal Party and will attract votes from different areas at the next election.

So Jason71 and others who think Chic has nothing to offer, stick to what you know. You have no involvement in the party.

And for the record, the party finances are just fine. But we won’t hear anything about any other party’s problems because they are running the ACT government.

#18
NoImRight9:50 am, 05 Feb 14

rommeldog56 said :

Does it really matter ????

How is Chic Henry any worse than any of the incompetent nob’s in the ACT Government anyway ????

At least he seems to have some experience in business that might help to encourage growth in the ACT economy.

The Libs have to gain power first.

IMHO, the “bribe” of the Light Rail to the expanding Gungahlin Labor voter base may well ensure the re election of the current Labor/Greens Government. Unfortunately.

LOL> “Experience in running business”

#19
watto2311:41 am, 05 Feb 14

ACL said :

Jason71 clearly has no idea about how the Canberra Liberals work and how Gary Kent has damaged the brand. He was angry that he was not preselected and thinks that as the Party’s longest serving President that he is owed something by the Party.

The management committee determine when a member has crossed the line and if they should be reprimanded for it. Chic Henry has made one statement about party finances. Gary Kent made many. If Chic makes more statements without the party’s approval I am sure the Party will deal with it but the fact remains he made 1. Gary Kent made many.

That aside, Chic Henry will make a great contribution to the Liberal Party and will attract votes from different areas at the next election.

So Jason71 and others who think Chic has nothing to offer, stick to what you know. You have no involvement in the party.

And for the record, the party finances are just fine. But we won’t hear anything about any other party’s problems because they are running the ACT government.

But you are missing the point here entirely about how the electorate typically votes, how the hare-clark system works and how previous ACT liberal governments were elected. Thats why I think Chic Henry joining the Liberals actually doesn’t help the cause of a liberal government forming in the ACT. They needed a strong conservative independant or minor party. Just like Labor has needed the greens. Only once in 25 years have we had a majority government yet the Liberals seem to think they can do it, when labor struggles to do the same in a mostly labor voting city.

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