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Chifley fatal

By 19 July 2012 96

ACT Policing are investigating a collision in Chifley early this morning, Thursday 19 July.

About 12.50am, police were called to Eggleston Crescent where a white Holden Commodore had collided with a tree.

The vehicle was carrying a driver and three passengers.

Two of the passengers received minor injuries and are being treated at The Canberra Hospital. The other passenger died at the scene.

The driver of the vehicle is currently assisting police with their enquiries.

ACT Policing Crash Investigations and Reconstruction Team are investigating the scene.

This is the sixth person to have died on ACT roads this year.

Anyone who may have witnessed the collision is urged to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

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96 Responses to Chifley fatal
#1
cross11:01 am, 19 Jul 12

Hmm 1 am, four guys in a white Commodore, doesn’t take a lot of imagination to figure it out but I could be wrong.

#2
Heavs11:07 am, 19 Jul 12

need moar speed camera’s

#3
VYBerlinaV8_is_back11:11 am, 19 Jul 12

Anyone know what happened?

#4
Solidarity11:18 am, 19 Jul 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Anyone know what happened?

White VL is what the Facebook is saying

#5
johnboy11:23 am, 19 Jul 12
#6
Skidd Marx11:23 am, 19 Jul 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Anyone know what happened?

On the radio the father of one of the guys in the Commodore is claiming they were being chased & harassed by a security vehicle which subsequently fled the scene. Don’t quote me on that though, I only caught half of the story. Sounds like bull$hit but I’ve been wrong plenty of times before.

#7
TheCreek12:15 pm, 19 Jul 12

R.I.P Tyson

#8
SigmaOctantis12:55 pm, 19 Jul 12

What a waste of a perfectly good white commodore. The tree will take years to fully recover too.

#9
Solitude1:37 pm, 19 Jul 12

SigmaOctantis said :

What a waste of a perfectly good white commodore. The tree will take years to fully recover too.

Incredibly insensitive comment.
At the end of the day a life has been lost. Regardless of the circumstances, this is a complete tragedy.
A mother and father have lost their son. Relatives have lost a dear family member. Young boys have lost a great mate.
Don’t joke about it.

#10
00davist2:53 pm, 19 Jul 12

Solitude said :

SigmaOctantis said :

What a waste of a perfectly good white commodore. The tree will take years to fully recover too.

Incredibly insensitive comment.
At the end of the day a life has been lost. Regardless of the circumstances, this is a complete tragedy.
A mother and father have lost their son. Relatives have lost a dear family member. Young boys have lost a great mate.
Don’t joke about it.

This is something that is overlooked too often, yes, it’s another white commodore hitting a tree, yes, it was loaded with young guys, with a P Plate driver, and yes, it happened late at night, however, that does not justify insensitive comments.

It’s not hard to make guesses as to what happened, and the circumstances seem to mirror recipes we all know lead to crashes, but the police had to wait to be able to assess the scene and determine what happened, so I can’t see how anyone at home can determine it so decisively from a photo on their screen.

A young man is dead, and that leaves alot of pain, regardless of how the car was being driven, on top of that, even if you think the driving style lessens the loss, I can’t see how you can apply that to passengers, he may not have been comfortable himself if the car was going to fast.

On top of that, how many people here did stupid things in their youth, drove to fast, got in a fight, or blew up a letter box, while I’m sure not everyone will be putting their hand up, I strongly doubt no one here can, did this kid deserve to die, even if stupidity was involved?

I’m not trying to justify hooning, if that was indeed the case, but if you want the death penalty, move to the US, and if you want it for driving offences, perhaps you should get yourself an island.

It’s not like we don’t get fed up and sometimes tell people that hoons should all go into tree’s and take themselves out before killing others, but an exasperated expression when we see a speeding car should not translate into insensitive commentary where someone has lost a child.

For anyone who knew this kid, you have my heartfelt sympathies, and to our resident trolls (MrGillespie, Henry BG, etc…) really think about it before you jump in here.

#11
dungfungus3:22 pm, 19 Jul 12

00davist said :

Solitude said :

SigmaOctantis said :

What a waste of a perfectly good white commodore. The tree will take years to fully recover too.

Incredibly insensitive comment.
At the end of the day a life has been lost. Regardless of the circumstances, this is a complete tragedy.
A mother and father have lost their son. Relatives have lost a dear family member. Young boys have lost a great mate.
Don’t joke about it.

This is something that is overlooked too often, yes, it’s another white commodore hitting a tree, yes, it was loaded with young guys, with a P Plate driver, and yes, it happened late at night, however, that does not justify insensitive comments.

It’s not hard to make guesses as to what happened, and the circumstances seem to mirror recipes we all know lead to crashes, but the police had to wait to be able to assess the scene and determine what happened, so I can’t see how anyone at home can determine it so decisively from a photo on their screen.

A young man is dead, and that leaves alot of pain, regardless of how the car was being driven, on top of that, even if you think the driving style lessens the loss, I can’t see how you can apply that to passengers, he may not have been comfortable himself if the car was going to fast.

On top of that, how many people here did stupid things in their youth, drove to fast, got in a fight, or blew up a letter box, while I’m sure not everyone will be putting their hand up, I strongly doubt no one here can, did this kid deserve to die, even if stupidity was involved?

I’m not trying to justify hooning, if that was indeed the case, but if you want the death penalty, move to the US, and if you want it for driving offences, perhaps you should get yourself an island.

It’s not like we don’t get fed up and sometimes tell people that hoons should all go into tree’s and take themselves out before killing others, but an exasperated expression when we see a speeding car should not translate into insensitive commentary where someone has lost a child.

For anyone who knew this kid, you have my heartfelt sympathies, and to our resident trolls (MrGillespie, Henry BG, etc…) really think about it before you jump in here.

Lots of young people grieving at the scene this afternoon. Unfortunately, it will happen again and again and again……

#12
The_Bulldog3:30 pm, 19 Jul 12

With respect to those impacted by this tragedy – this should be a moment where we consider our own driving behaviours and how they impact others. This shouldn’t just be a wake-up call for inexperienced drivers either.

#13
bundah3:58 pm, 19 Jul 12

Given the obstacles one has to negotiate ie. trees,light poles,inattentive oblivious drivers and then combine that with young inexperienced drivers who think they’re bulletproof it’s remarkable that there are not more collisions resulting in injury and fatality.

#14
c_c4:00 pm, 19 Jul 12

Solitude said :

SigmaOctantis said :

What a waste of a perfectly good white commodore. The tree will take years to fully recover too.

Incredibly insensitive comment.
At the end of the day a life has been lost. Regardless of the circumstances, this is a complete tragedy.
A mother and father have lost their son. Relatives have lost a dear family member. Young boys have lost a great mate.
Don’t joke about it.

And if they happened to smash into another vehicle, and killed the innocent occupants, instead of a tree?

Circumstances matter, these guys were dopes up to no good. We should just be thankful the tree wasn’t hurt worse and no once else was injured or killed.

#15
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd4:05 pm, 19 Jul 12

The_Bulldog said :

With respect to those impacted by this tragedy – this should be a moment where we consider our own driving behaviours and how they impact others. This shouldn’t just be a wake-up call for inexperienced drivers either.

Yep. Very sad event. Buuuuut, it never stops happening. Idiot kids get in cars with idiot drivers and crash and die. It’s not like it’s a rare thing to happen. Peeps should know better. How much more education can be given about the dangers of cars? I think parents need to do a better job. I have two young girls and they will understand as soon as old enough the dangers of getting in a car with a idiot driver.

Having said that, I know zero details of this accident and if being dumb was not he case I apologise in advance.

Also, very unlikely story about the security car chasing them.

#16
Solitude4:51 pm, 19 Jul 12

c_c said :

Solitude said :

SigmaOctantis said :

What a waste of a perfectly good white commodore. The tree will take years to fully recover too.

Incredibly insensitive comment.
At the end of the day a life has been lost. Regardless of the circumstances, this is a complete tragedy.
A mother and father have lost their son. Relatives have lost a dear family member. Young boys have lost a great mate.
Don’t joke about it.

And if they happened to smash into another vehicle, and killed the innocent occupants, instead of a tree?

Circumstances matter, these guys were dopes up to no good. We should just be thankful the tree wasn’t hurt worse and no once else was injured or killed.

Wow. Some people never cease to amaze me.
As I said, regardless of the circumstances a young boy is dead. There is absolutely no need for the smart a*se responses.

And you don’t know the circumstances, so get off your high horse.

#17
c_c4:57 pm, 19 Jul 12

You keep saying “young boy” as if that somehow displaces blame, as if being ‘young’ (and I think 17 is pushing the definition of ‘young boy’) is a defence.

The law recognises someone as criminally responsible long before 17, because by that age even if someone isn’t completely mentally developed, they are considered to have the mental capacity to foresee the consequences of their actions.

You don’t make any progress by just writing it off as young folks being young. You need to call it like it is, young people being stupid and throwing it away.

#18
Solitude5:18 pm, 19 Jul 12

c_c said :

You keep saying “young boy” as if that somehow displaces blame, as if being ‘young’ (and I think 17 is pushing the definition of ‘young boy’) is a defence.

The law recognises someone as criminally responsible long before 17, because by that age even if someone isn’t completely mentally developed, they are considered to have the mental capacity to foresee the consequences of their actions.

You don’t make any progress by just writing it off as young folks being young. You need to call it like it is, young people being stupid and throwing it away.

I know what you’re saying, and I do agree.
But think of it from the loved one’s perspective; he had so much ahead of him.

#19
SnapperJack5:23 pm, 19 Jul 12

The people I feel sorry for are the nearby residents who had their sleep disrupted by all that noise and commotion at 1AM, not to mention the inconvenience of having their street blocked off and putting up with a full-scale police operation happening under their noses.

I too am upset about a perfectly good Commodore being damaged and I hope the tree is able to fully recover.

#20
mcmc6:13 pm, 19 Jul 12

I can’t believe that people are just drawing their own conlusions when it comes to the death of this boy. It’s so rude, imagine that his parents got on here and saw that. Just think. The death of a young person tears communities apart, and I know this from experience. There was no need for any of those heartless and presumptuous comments, you had no right to post them. Do you feel good about yourself that you managed troll another post? Have a medal!

#21
TheCreek6:34 pm, 19 Jul 12

c_c said :

You keep saying “young boy” as if that somehow displaces blame, as if being ‘young’ (and I think 17 is pushing the definition of ‘young boy’) is a defence.

Blame for what? What would he need to defend? Do you know something the rest of us don’t?

His behaviour, getting into a car with a P Plater, was risky. And yes that’s what young people do, take risks.

#22
TheCreek6:41 pm, 19 Jul 12

SnapperJack said :

The people I feel sorry for are the nearby residents who had their sleep disrupted by all that noise and commotion at 1AM, not to mention the inconvenience of having their street blocked off and putting up with a full-scale police operation happening under their noses.

I too am upset about a perfectly good Commodore being damaged and I hope the tree is able to fully recover.

Yeah? More sorry for them than say, his parents? His brother and sister? He was a good kid, and didn’t deserve this.

#23
bigred6:48 pm, 19 Jul 12

Well there is three extra third party claims from one moment in time. No wonder premiums are up.

#24
TheCreek6:48 pm, 19 Jul 12

c_c said :

Solitude said :

SigmaOctantis said :

Circumstances matter, these guys were dopes up to no good. We should just be thankful the tree wasn’t hurt worse and no once else was injured or killed.

They were all “up to no good”? you know what happened I take it, do tell. Yes the poor tree, the pain it must have suffered.

#25
cranky6:49 pm, 19 Jul 12

It is sad that this event resulted in a death. My condolences to family and friends of the victim. This is too great a penalty for a driving indiscretion.

Reading between the lines, it does appear that the car was perhaps trying to stay in front of a security person, who perhaps had good reason for pursuing the Commodore. Could be interesting to hear what mischief was got into in Woden/Phillip late last night.

#26
Postalgeek6:54 pm, 19 Jul 12

The young bloke was a passenger, not the driver FFS

I don’t know all the circumstances relating to this accident, but I recall several times getting into a car and then wishing I hadn’t. Once I was stuck in a car with the driver trying to race around narrow, blind English country lanes. That was harrowing. Even now I get pissed thinking about it.

And being young, passengers in a full car tend to clam up and suck it up. It’s a very vulnerable situation at that age when you’re stuck with a dickhead driving.

All you can do is try to teach your kids to have the confidence to punch the lights out of the driver when a safe moment presents itself.

#27
Madam Cholet8:06 pm, 19 Jul 12

Idiots are on our roads every where, not just late at night with P plates. Just the other day I stopped at the traffic lights on the Monaro at Hume and had been sitting there for about two seconds when a B double whooshed through the patently obvious red light at about a billion k’s an hour. There were two vehicles waiting to cross the Monaro and another second it would have been carnage – and more than likely would have cleaned me and my little one up as well. I feel like everyday I get home safely in my car is bordering on a miracle.

#28
Danman8:28 pm, 19 Jul 12

Its so easy for everyone to stand on their ivory tower and point the finger, but a lot of the time, the only difference between us oldies and the kids/adolescents of today is that we, the oldies, got lucky and lived through all our reckless life threatening stuff. Sadly a lot of my generation forget that they were once young and did the exact same stupid suff too, but got lucky and made it to today.

Regardless of who what when where why and how, someone has died, maybe you dont care, but show a bit of empathy, as anyone with a conscience should. Ask yourself how you would feel if it was someone you knew before you make a hateful comment.

#29
screaming banshee8:31 pm, 19 Jul 12

Second car sounds like bs, I’ve never seen a security car that would keep up with even the crappiest of commodores.

#30
c_c8:38 pm, 19 Jul 12

The replay of the call to 2CC on Win News said the second vehicle flashed their lights and startled the driver.

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