24 July 2011

Civic head injuries. Nothing good happens after 2am.

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ACT Policing is seeking witnesses to an incident in the city early this morning (Sunday, 24 July).

About 5.30am police received a report of an unconscious man lying out the front of the Quick and Go convenience store on the corner of Northbourne Avenue and Alinga Street.

Upon arrival police found an unresponsive man lying on the ground, having sustained head injuries.

A man aged in his 40s was taken to The Canberra Hospital by ACT Ambulance Service where he is undergoing emergency surgery.

Police are aware there were a number of patrons and security staff who may have witnessed the incident and are calling on them to urgently contact ACT Policing operations on 131 444

Witnesses can also contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000, or via the Crime Stoppers website on www.act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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Jim Jones said :

Bussie said :

Tooks said :

Bussie said :

Proboscus said :

Bussie said

“I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.”

Bullsh*t. The cops are under the microscope as it is. Do you really think they are going to allow an assault to happen right in front of them, in a crowded part of Civic and do nothing?

And if this imaginary incident did occur – why didn’t you report it?

Piss off, I know what I saw, you weren’t there so stop hugging the cops nuts and accept that they’re not angels.

I’d guess their thinking went roughly: no one was hurt so why have 2 of their number spend four hours in the station doing paperwork at the start of a busy summer night in Civic.

Who would I report it to, the cops? And if I had there’d have been 8 of them to say absolutely nothing happened, the CCTV system would have conveniently developed a fault and I end up on their s***list.

Let me guess. You sometimes wear a tinfoil hat?

So no real argument then just the easy dismissal of someone you disagree with as a nutcase.

So, no real evidence, just an amazing story with the strong stench of bullsh1t on it.

Yep, either lying, or he saw an injustice and did nothing about it, which is probably worse.

Bussie said :

Tooks said :

Bussie said :

Proboscus said :

Bussie said

“I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.”

Bullsh*t. The cops are under the microscope as it is. Do you really think they are going to allow an assault to happen right in front of them, in a crowded part of Civic and do nothing?

And if this imaginary incident did occur – why didn’t you report it?

Piss off, I know what I saw, you weren’t there so stop hugging the cops nuts and accept that they’re not angels.

I’d guess their thinking went roughly: no one was hurt so why have 2 of their number spend four hours in the station doing paperwork at the start of a busy summer night in Civic.

Who would I report it to, the cops? And if I had there’d have been 8 of them to say absolutely nothing happened, the CCTV system would have conveniently developed a fault and I end up on their s***list.

Let me guess. You sometimes wear a tinfoil hat?

So no real argument then just the easy dismissal of someone you disagree with as a nutcase.

So, no real evidence, just an amazing story with the strong stench of bullsh1t on it.

Tooks said :

Bussie said :

Proboscus said :

Bussie said

“I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.”

Bullsh*t. The cops are under the microscope as it is. Do you really think they are going to allow an assault to happen right in front of them, in a crowded part of Civic and do nothing?

And if this imaginary incident did occur – why didn’t you report it?

Piss off, I know what I saw, you weren’t there so stop hugging the cops nuts and accept that they’re not angels.

I’d guess their thinking went roughly: no one was hurt so why have 2 of their number spend four hours in the station doing paperwork at the start of a busy summer night in Civic.

Who would I report it to, the cops? And if I had there’d have been 8 of them to say absolutely nothing happened, the CCTV system would have conveniently developed a fault and I end up on their s***list.

Let me guess. You sometimes wear a tinfoil hat?

So no real argument then just the easy dismissal of someone you disagree with as a nutcase.

Bussie said :

Proboscus said :

Bussie said

“I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.”

Bullsh*t. The cops are under the microscope as it is. Do you really think they are going to allow an assault to happen right in front of them, in a crowded part of Civic and do nothing?

And if this imaginary incident did occur – why didn’t you report it?

Piss off, I know what I saw, you weren’t there so stop hugging the cops nuts and accept that they’re not angels.

I’d guess their thinking went roughly: no one was hurt so why have 2 of their number spend four hours in the station doing paperwork at the start of a busy summer night in Civic.

Who would I report it to, the cops? And if I had there’d have been 8 of them to say absolutely nothing happened, the CCTV system would have conveniently developed a fault and I end up on their s***list.

Let me guess. You sometimes wear a tinfoil hat?

Proboscus said :

Bussie said

“I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.”

Bullsh*t. The cops are under the microscope as it is. Do you really think they are going to allow an assault to happen right in front of them, in a crowded part of Civic and do nothing?

And if this imaginary incident did occur – why didn’t you report it?

Piss off, I know what I saw, you weren’t there so stop hugging the cops nuts and accept that they’re not angels.

I’d guess their thinking went roughly: no one was hurt so why have 2 of their number spend four hours in the station doing paperwork at the start of a busy summer night in Civic.

Who would I report it to, the cops? And if I had there’d have been 8 of them to say absolutely nothing happened, the CCTV system would have conveniently developed a fault and I end up on their s***list.

toriness said :

an arrest has been made.

Comment #6 is proven wrong in record time.

Good result. Hope the victim pulls through.

merrigan said :

Not really surprised though, I was at the Casino nightclub the other week, sure enough there was trouble. People getting way to hammered to quick and nobody taking responsiobilty for it. All the bartenders did was fill everyone up with grog then stand there looking like stunned mullets when things happened.
No wonder things like this happen

I, like most people, have been very drunk at times.

I, like most people, have never started a fight when drunk.

I have been at office christmas parties with 300+ drunk people and there have been no fights.

I dont know why some drunk people get aggressive while other drunk people become ‘overly’ friendly or chatty or anything but not aggressive.

But I am pretty sure the people who get aggressive when drunk are perfectly aware that they get aggressive when they drink but nonetheless drink. Which means they should be treated as with drunk drivers – once, slap on the wrist and let off (assuming just a fight and not an assault like this). Second time, you were drunk and in a fight and you knew that you had a propensity to get in fights when drunk – more serious crime. 3rd time – no excuse.

Bussie said

“I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.”

Bullsh*t. The cops are under the microscope as it is. Do you really think they are going to allow an assault to happen right in front of them, in a crowded part of Civic and do nothing?

And if this imaginary incident did occur – why didn’t you report it?

Not really surprised though, I was at the Casino nightclub the other week, sure enough there was trouble. People getting way to hammered to quick and nobody taking responsiobilty for it. All the bartenders did was fill everyone up with grog then stand there looking like stunned mullets when things happened.
No wonder things like this happen

Thevoiceofchoice said :

Drunk victims, poor quality CCTV footage (if any at all), and lack of witnesses are unfortunately common factors in incidents like these. The ‘going beyond their call of duty’ remark is a pretty childish response.

Did you read the article before comment Tooks. Drunk victim (he was unconcious!). CCTV, available. Witnesses, sober convience store clerks. Your heart spoke before your head.

(Tried to reply, but it seems to be lost…here goes again) I wasn’t commenting on the article, but on the common problems involved with this kind of incident.

To address your points though:

1) CCTV available

Absolutely. Hence this from the article you brought up:

“One employee, who refused to be named, said the store’s CCTV cameras had captured the incident, but the footage was not clear.

An ACT Policing spokeswoman said police were reviewing CCTV footage from the area, but said it was uncertain whether it would be of any value.”

2) Witnesses

Yep. Statements have already been taken from identified witnesses. The media release is asking for any other witnesses to come forward.

“Witness statements were taken from employees of the Quick and Go store.”

3) Sober convenience store clerks

See above.

Thevoiceofchoice1:49 pm 25 Jul 11

Bussie said :

Thevoiceofchoice said :

Drunk victims, poor quality CCTV footage (if any at all), and lack of witnesses are unfortunately common factors in incidents like these. The ‘going beyond their call of duty’ remark is a pretty childish response.

Did you read the article before comment Tooks. Drunk victim (he was unconcious!). CCTV, available. Witnesses, sober convience store clerks. Your heart spoke before your head.

I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.

Exactly Bussie

Thevoiceofchoice said :

Drunk victims, poor quality CCTV footage (if any at all), and lack of witnesses are unfortunately common factors in incidents like these. The ‘going beyond their call of duty’ remark is a pretty childish response.

Did you read the article before comment Tooks. Drunk victim (he was unconcious!). CCTV, available. Witnesses, sober convience store clerks. Your heart spoke before your head.

I saw a guy get punched to the ground right in front of a big bunch of cops in Civic interchange a few years ago. Cops did absolutely nothing.

Beserk Keyboard Warrior12:14 pm 25 Jul 11

“Nothing good happens after 2am” – so very very true.

Thevoiceofchoice12:04 pm 25 Jul 11

Drunk victims, poor quality CCTV footage (if any at all), and lack of witnesses are unfortunately common factors in incidents like these. The ‘going beyond their call of duty’ remark is a pretty childish response.

Did you read the article before comment Tooks. Drunk victim (he was unconcious!). CCTV, available. Witnesses, sober convience store clerks. Your heart spoke before your head.

Thevoiceofchoice said :

In the Canberra times it states that it was a group of up to 5 males.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/unconscious-man-found-after-civic-assault/2236467.aspx

I have heard of a lot of incidents of this nature occuring and have experienced this personally not far from this locale (perpertraor not found). I am sure that these males will not be apprehended, if it does not happen in view of police they very rarely go beyond their call of duty to find the culprits. The footage “not being clear” is a great indicator that this will occur.

Drunk victims, poor quality CCTV footage (if any at all), and lack of witnesses are unfortunately common factors in incidents like these. The ‘going beyond their call of duty’ remark is a pretty childish response.

Thevoiceofchoice10:43 am 25 Jul 11

In the Canberra times it states that it was a group of up to 5 males.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/unconscious-man-found-after-civic-assault/2236467.aspx

I have heard of a lot of incidents of this nature occuring and have experienced this personally not far from this locale (perpertraor not found). I am sure that these males will not be apprehended, if it does not happen in view of police they very rarely go beyond their call of duty to find the culprits. The footage “not being clear” is a great indicator that this will occur.

It could be anything, punched, got knocked over by a vehicle, ran into a vehicle, or just tripped and fell over. However, i dont think anyone at 5:30am in civic would be sober

Flashback!!!!

I saw that….

creative_canberran said :

That’s a dangerous stretch of road even in broad daylight. Taxis and Buses stop there, the former often tearing out without looking properly. Cars frequently come around the corner too fast. And there’s no pedestrian crossing there despite it been a frequently used place to cross.

Incorrect, there is a pedestrian crossing there. lights and all.
This is the intersection link

reasonableperson5:23 pm 24 Jul 11

It is more likely that he was bashed by some drunk thug who enjoys punching people in the face for the fun of it as apposed to being hit by a car.

Didn’t someone get stabbed in Civic last week?

Whats going on in our town?

creative_canberran3:15 pm 24 Jul 11

That’s a dangerous stretch of road even in broad daylight. Taxis and Buses stop there, the former often tearing out without looking properly. Cars frequently come around the corner too fast. And there’s no pedestrian crossing there despite it been a frequently used place to cross.

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