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Civic Traffic Signals?

By 22 July 2013 28

Noticed the slimline silver traffic signals which coincided in release with the Euro number plates have been altered to resemble a typical traffic signal.

Why not install standard signals in the first place?

Why can’t we have nice things?

If it is because it is a different format in regulatory traffic control which “confuses” some motorists I suggest a follow up driving exam.

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28 Responses to Civic Traffic Signals?
#1
nsn11:11 am, 22 Jul 13

I noticed this too. I presume it is because the thick black ‘border’ around the lights (for want of a better description) makes the lights much easier to see.

It seems like common sense might have prevailed, given that it’s surely more important that traffic lights be functional, rather than pretty.

If you want to appreciate the “european-style” traffic lights in all their border-less beauty, the set on Anzac Parade are still in their original condition.

#2
c_c™11:18 am, 22 Jul 13

Are these those stupid ‘slim-line’ traffic signals that several MLAs were wetting themselves on FB/Twitter about months ago as if they alone made Canberra a modern metropolis? Talk about style over substance.

#3
thatsnotme11:37 am, 22 Jul 13

Because they were awful.

The lights at the new intersection created near the Nishi building had these euro style lights too, and they were dangerous. The light would get lost in all the clutter behind, making it more difficult to actually see the lights themselves.

The black backing works in much the same way as a sightscreen behind a bowler in cricket – it makes the lights stand out far more clearly. It was a matter of style over safety, and I’m glad that they’ve finally realised that pretty looking traffic lights aren’t much good if you can’t see them properly.

The only change that was made was to add the black border – the original lights are still there, so it’s not like they needed to replace the whole things.

#4
Solidarity11:50 am, 22 Jul 13

Because those :nice things” are harder to see than the normal ones.

#5
tim_c12:09 pm, 22 Jul 13

Because they finally realised that the black surround actually had a purpose (I found out when I asked my Dad one day when I was about 4).

#6
JC12:42 pm, 22 Jul 13

Where have they changed them? Must admit I hadn’t noticed. And yep agree with other comments the slimline ones really did get lost. The ones I hated were on London CCT near the old ACTEW building.

#7
artuoui1:30 pm, 22 Jul 13

Join in on the count of three!

I like traffic lights
I like traffic lights
I like traffic lights
Don’t care where they’ve been
I like traffic lights (etc – you all know the words)

#8
switch2:30 pm, 22 Jul 13

artuoui said :

Join in on the count of three!

I like traffic lights
I like traffic lights
I like traffic lights
Don’t care where they’ve been
I like traffic lights (etc – you all know the words)

Only when they’re green.

#9
dungfungus6:52 pm, 22 Jul 13

c_c™ said :

Are these those stupid ‘slim-line’ traffic signals that several MLAs were wetting themselves on FB/Twitter about months ago as if they alone made Canberra a modern metropolis? Talk about style over substance.

This is the Canberra Cringe at work.
I can now imagine what our trams will look like.

#10
FarrerGirl8:56 am, 23 Jul 13

My fave traffic lights are in Utrecht – Netherlands – this is the birth place of Dick Bruna, the creator of Miffy – that cute little rabbit. The pedestrian alerts are Miffy characters. See photo at http://www.panoramio.com/photo/36419582

I wonder what Canberra’s equivalent characters would be? Maybe the skywhale..

#11
dungfungus9:32 am, 23 Jul 13

FarrerGirl said :

My fave traffic lights are in Utrecht – Netherlands – this is the birth place of Dick Bruna, the creator of Miffy – that cute little rabbit. The pedestrian alerts are Miffy characters. See photo at http://www.panoramio.com/photo/36419582

I wonder what Canberra’s equivalent characters would be? Maybe the skywhale..

The Miffy characters in Utrecht blend in well with the smell of pot wafting down the streets 24/7.

#12
tuco9:39 am, 23 Jul 13

switch said :

artuoui said :

Join in on the count of three!

I like traffic lights
I like traffic lights
I like traffic lights
Don’t care where they’ve been
I like traffic lights (etc – you all know the words)

Only when they’re green.

Cos I’m watchin’ my ipod screen

#13
bd8410:04 am, 23 Jul 13

I don’t understand how bright LED green, amber and red lights blend into the background of anything.. I’m yet to see lights situated in front of any similar shaded coloured items that would cause the lights to “blend in”.

Sounds like a poor excuse for idiots who don’t pay attention and need to hand their licence in.

#14
justin heywood10:44 am, 23 Jul 13

FarrerGirl said :

My fave traffic lights are in Utrecht – Netherlands – this is the birth place of Dick Bruna, the creator of Miffy – that cute little rabbit. The pedestrian alerts are Miffy characters. See photo at http://www.panoramio.com/photo/36419582

I wonder what Canberra’s equivalent characters would be? Maybe the skywhale..

Ha! That’s cool. I can’t think of any reason we can’t inject a little random playfulness in our signage.
Put a smile on the face of the locals and improve Canberra’s image for the tourists.

#15
harvyk111:43 am, 23 Jul 13

bd84 said :

Sounds like a poor excuse for idiots who don’t pay attention and need to hand their licence in.

I’m so glad someone finally posted up an “every idiot who is not me should hand in their license” post.
I was getting worried for a second there.

#16
Deref12:14 pm, 23 Jul 13

In the same vein, who was the numbntut who decided to change road markings from yellow to white?

I believe that studies show that yellow on black is much more visible than white on black. Having recently done a lot of driving in the US where the lines are still yellow, I can certainly confirm that.

#17
460cixy12:54 pm, 23 Jul 13

For Christ sakes canberra let’s just have some nice stuff screw the safety

#18
La_Tour_Maubourg12:56 pm, 23 Jul 13

bd84 said :

I don’t understand how bright LED green, amber and red lights blend into the background of anything.. I’m yet to see lights situated in front of any similar shaded coloured items that would cause the lights to “blend in”.

Sounds like a poor excuse for idiots who don’t pay attention and need to hand their licence in.

Absolutely.
Another example may be not using a parking meter because it looks different to another one.
Still functions the same

#19
tim_c3:46 pm, 23 Jul 13

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

bd84 said :

I don’t understand how bright LED green, amber and red lights blend into the background of anything.. I’m yet to see lights situated in front of any similar shaded coloured items that would cause the lights to “blend in”.

Sounds like a poor excuse for idiots who don’t pay attention and need to hand their licence in.

Absolutely.
Another example may be not using a parking meter because it looks different to another one.
Still functions the same

No, a better example would be not using a parking meter because it looked like a post box, and you didn’t realise it was actually a parking meter.

#20
thatsnotme5:26 pm, 23 Jul 13

La_Tour_Maubourg said :

bd84 said :

I don’t understand how bright LED green, amber and red lights blend into the background of anything.. I’m yet to see lights situated in front of any similar shaded coloured items that would cause the lights to “blend in”.

Sounds like a poor excuse for idiots who don’t pay attention and need to hand their licence in.

Absolutely.
Another example may be not using a parking meter because it looks different to another one.
Still functions the same

No, the example is more that you didn’t use a parking meter, because you couldn’t see it.

Believe me, despite the nice bright lights, they were more difficult to see than standard lights. My point of reference is the lights near the Nishi building, which started as euro styled. Coming around the corner towards them, the lights further down the road at the corner of Marcus Clarke St, and even the next set further down at London Cct, were move easily and quickly visible than the new lights near Nishi. They didn’t need to be situated in front of similar coloured background to blend in either, they just did. Now they have the black border, they’re far easier to see.

Nothing to do with anyone needing to hand in their license – the fact is that traffic lights have an vital job to do on the roads, and if the choice is between effective functioning and aesthetics, then function has to be the choice. Not that hard really.

#21
JC6:46 pm, 23 Jul 13

bd84 said :

I don’t understand how bright LED green, amber and red lights blend into the background of anything.. I’m yet to see lights situated in front of any similar shaded coloured items that would cause the lights to “blend in”.

Sounds like a poor excuse for idiots who don’t pay attention and need to hand their licence in.

For one not all are LED, the ones at the corner of Marcus Clarke Street and Rudd Street being prime examples of where for what ever reason they have the slimline lights but globes. Being a bus boy I would have thought you would know that (seeing as that intersection is the start of the bus route to Barry Drive).

Secondly at 40, my vision is perfect and I have never had an accident (touch wood), but I have trouble picking up some of the ‘new’ version lights. As I said above one of the worst is the corner of London CCT and Akuna Street when you are coming from the Constitution Ave direction. The ones on Cooyong Street near the Canberra Centre are also hard to spot.

Bully or you if you can pick them all up, not everyone is you and because they aren’t isn’t a reason to hand back the licence. (note of course correct Australian spelling of the word licence, though at least you too can spell that word)

#22
OLydia10:18 pm, 23 Jul 13

I haven’t noticed the slimline traffic lights and don’t know what they look like. A quick Google search didn’t reveal anything. Are there any intersections still with these slim line lights?

#23
c_c™10:27 pm, 23 Jul 13
#24
ML-5851:08 pm, 24 Jul 13

JC said :

For one not all are LED, the ones at the corner of Marcus Clarke Street and Rudd Street being prime examples of where for what ever reason they have the slimline lights but globes. Being a bus boy I would have thought you would know that (seeing as that intersection is the start of the bus route to Barry Drive).

Secondly at 40, my vision is perfect and I have never had an accident (touch wood), but I have trouble picking up some of the ‘new’ version lights. As I said above one of the worst is the corner of London CCT and Akuna Street when you are coming from the Constitution Ave direction. The ones on Cooyong Street near the Canberra Centre are also hard to spot.

Are you sure they’re not LED – I was under the impression that the ACT Gov is only installing LED lights now due to their energy saving. (And are also replacing existing “bulb” lights with LEDs.)

Agree that the new lights at Marcus Clarke / Rimmer and also Edinburgh / Phillip Law tended to blend in to the background — possibly because they were new lights and also were in between other sets. Cooyong / Ainslie were also a bit this way but, being pre-exiting lights, you at least knew they were there.

OLydia said :

I haven’t noticed the slimline traffic lights and don’t know what they look like. A quick Google search didn’t reveal anything. Are there any intersections still with these slim line lights?

None of these lights appear on Google streetview. All of the city sets have had the black backboards added, but the original lights are still in place. Constitution / Anzac Parade have similar lights, but they used a brown casing rather than silver.

Refer to this item for photo of the lights before the backboards were added: http://the-riotact.com/cancel-the-jet-to-milan-jeeves-weve-got-euro-styled-traffic-lights-now/80131

#25
JC10:14 pm, 24 Jul 13

ML-585 said :

Are you sure they’re not LED – I was under the impression that the ACT Gov is only installing LED lights now due to their energy saving. (And are also replacing existing “bulb” lights with LEDs.)

Agree that the new lights at Marcus Clarke / Rimmer and also Edinburgh / Phillip Law tended to blend in to the background — possibly because they were new lights and also were in between other sets. Cooyong / Ainslie were also a bit this way but, being pre-exiting lights, you at least knew they were there.

I am surprised someone hasn’t picked me up yet that the lights at Marcus Clarke Street and Rudd Street are not the slimline style. They are new (or maybe refurbished) and have traditional globes in them.

There are a couple of slim lines with globes though.

Now like you I had thought LED were going to be replacing globes in new installs and as they fail, but doesn’t seem if that is a hard and fast rule going by recent new lights. It is all over the shop.

#26
460cixy8:23 am, 25 Jul 13

We just want nice thing s like lights that are form over function

#27
thatsnotme8:32 am, 25 Jul 13

JC said :

ML-585 said :

Are you sure they’re not LED – I was under the impression that the ACT Gov is only installing LED lights now due to their energy saving. (And are also replacing existing “bulb” lights with LEDs.)

Agree that the new lights at Marcus Clarke / Rimmer and also Edinburgh / Phillip Law tended to blend in to the background — possibly because they were new lights and also were in between other sets. Cooyong / Ainslie were also a bit this way but, being pre-exiting lights, you at least knew they were there.

I am surprised someone hasn’t picked me up yet that the lights at Marcus Clarke Street and Rudd Street are not the slimline style. They are new (or maybe refurbished) and have traditional globes in them.

There are a couple of slim lines with globes though.

Now like you I had thought LED were going to be replacing globes in new installs and as they fail, but doesn’t seem if that is a hard and fast rule going by recent new lights. It is all over the shop.

They were originally slimline, they just had the backboards fitted recently. So you were right in the first place.

#28
planet4210:12 am, 26 Jul 13

Just be thankful we don’t have traffic signals like these from Taiwan :) .

http://www.hobbiesplus.com.au/signspotters/taiwan's_traffic_signals.htm

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