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Closure of car park at National Library

By 23 July 2012 93

Hi all,

The National Capital Authority has given notice that the dirt car park situated between the National Library and the Lake will be permanently closed (except for special events) from Friday next week. Parking in this area will henceforth become even tighter…

From the National Library website:

Changes to car parking
Posted on: 23rd July 2012

The National Capital Authority will commence restoring the Patrick White Lawns, adjacent to the National Library in August 2012. The area will close at 5 pm on Friday 3 August and will no longer be available for car parking except for temporary use during special events.

The Patrick White Lawns commemorate the 1973 Australian of the Year and the first Australian to win the Nobel Prize for Literature. The restoration of the area is listed as a high priority in the Parliament House Vista Heritage Management Plan.

Visit www.natcap.gov.au for further information.

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93 Responses to Closure of car park at National Library
#1
c_c6:03 pm, 23 Jul 12

About 2/3 of that carpark is used by Treasury, the rest by Library users. And it and all surrounding carparks are completely full during semester – so where do we park now NCA? Did you think about this at all?

There should be a damn massive underground carpark in the Triangle anyway, like under the Melbourne Museum.

#2
dungfungus6:29 pm, 23 Jul 12

c_c said :

About 2/3 of that carpark is used by Treasury, the rest by Library users. And it and all surrounding carparks are completely full during semester – so where do we park now NCA? Did you think about this at all?

There should be a damn massive underground carpark in the Triangle anyway, like under the Melbourne Museum.

Lack of parking in this area is killing tourism.

#3
smcphill6:35 pm, 23 Jul 12

Completely agree that the parking situation is dire, and it’s pretty much all the NCA’s fault.

Having said that. I detest this particular carpark: the open grassland there used to be a beautiful spot along the lakeside. Going back a few years, there was a kite festival held there. I used to play football at lunchtime there. Now it’s a muddy cesspit.

Thanks NCA. Spend a wad of cash to make this area the way it used to be 5 years ago. Smart thinking.

#4
smcphill6:40 pm, 23 Jul 12

c_c said :

About 2/3 of that carpark is used by Treasury, the rest by Library users. And it and all surrounding carparks are completely full during semester – so where do we park now NCA? Did you think about this at all?

Rather unhelpfully, they’ve listed the other public parking spaces nearby. Mind you, these are all pretty much at capacity already:

http://www.natcap.gov.au/index.php?option=com_content&id=2433:restoration-of-the-patrick-white-lawns

#5
c_c6:58 pm, 23 Jul 12

Worth remembering that both sides of the Library were long earmarked for development, not just left as lawns. This is just the NCA trying to cut costs.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.pic-vn3683426-s2

#6
How_Canberran7:16 pm, 23 Jul 12

Patience Monty, patience. The ‘lack’ of parking will be addressed due to resounding complaints.

I eventually see a multi-story carpark being built, embracing the facade and stately ambience of the Parliamentary triangle.

It will also address the dire lack of tourist car-parking. Can it get any better?

Chaaaa – chinnnnng!

#7
Masquara7:21 pm, 23 Jul 12

Zed – do you have any influence over parking in the parliamentary triangle? Can you do something about this anti-car push? I’m sick of the Green Nanny state telling me to catch the bus.

#8
screaming banshee7:31 pm, 23 Jul 12

dungfungus said :

Lack of parking in this area is killing tourism.

Lack of policing of public servants parking in 3 and 4 hour car parks all day is the cause of lack of parking for tourists and visitors.

#9
Aubergine8:15 pm, 23 Jul 12

I would have thought it was helpful of the NCA to list all the alternative public parking nearby, rather than ‘unhelpful’. Are these all full when you go to park there? If so, why not consider driving in earlier, or later, when the odds are not everyone else will be trying the same thing. Or… yes, I’m going to say it… catch a bus. There are buses running through this area from all points every ten minutes at least. Every bus between Woden and the City can stop at Albert Hall, five minutes walk from the Library. Stacks of buses run right past the Library en route from Civic to Kingston/Manuka. Lots of options. Park in the city (“oh no, it’s not free”) and catch a bus. It just takes planning. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=action+bus+routes will help.

#10
milkman8:26 pm, 23 Jul 12

It would nice if those running the show realised that removing carparking, increasing parking costs and telling us to use public transport is not a real solution.

#11
thehutch8:38 pm, 23 Jul 12

Aubergine said :

I would have thought it was helpful of the NCA to list all the alternative public parking nearby, rather than ‘unhelpful’. Are these all full when you go to park there? If so, why not consider driving in earlier, or later, when the odds are not everyone else will be trying the same thing. Or… yes, I’m going to say it… catch a bus. There are buses running through this area from all points every ten minutes at least. Every bus between Woden and the City can stop at Albert Hall, five minutes walk from the Library. Stacks of buses run right past the Library en route from Civic to Kingston/Manuka. Lots of options. Park in the city (“oh no, it’s not free”) and catch a bus. It just takes planning. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=action+bus+routes will help.

+1 pay parking for long term parking in this area should have happened a long time ago.

#12
Masquara8:39 pm, 23 Jul 12

Er, why aren’t tourists being asked to use public transport?

#13
Stevian8:49 pm, 23 Jul 12

dungfungus said :

c_c said :

About 2/3 of that carpark is used by Treasury, the rest by Library users. And it and all surrounding carparks are completely full during semester – so where do we park now NCA? Did you think about this at all?

There should be a damn massive underground carpark in the Triangle anyway, like under the Melbourne Museum.

Lack of parking in this area is killing tourism.

That’s the plan

#14
milkman8:55 pm, 23 Jul 12

Masquara said :

Er, why aren’t tourists being asked to use public transport?

Why should they? They bring money into our local economy, surely we should be trying to make things convenient for them.

#15
arescarti428:55 pm, 23 Jul 12

Aubergine said :

I would have thought it was helpful of the NCA to list all the alternative public parking nearby, rather than ‘unhelpful’. Are these all full when you go to park there? If so, why not consider driving in earlier, or later, when the odds are not everyone else will be trying the same thing. Or… yes, I’m going to say it… catch a bus. There are buses running through this area from all points every ten minutes at least. Every bus between Woden and the City can stop at Albert Hall, five minutes walk from the Library. Stacks of buses run right past the Library en route from Civic to Kingston/Manuka. Lots of options. Park in the city (“oh no, it’s not free”) and catch a bus. It just takes planning. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=action+bus+routes will help.

+1

The ability to park wherever you like whenever you like for free is not a god given right.

#16
Hosinator9:20 pm, 23 Jul 12

milkman said :

It would nice if those running the show realised that removing carparking, increasing parking costs and telling us to use public transport is not a real solution.

How is it not a real solution?
That’s what they are doing, so either get used to it, negotiate to work from home, or learn to ride a bike.
No Federal government of the day will build parking in the parliamentary triangle for federal employees.
One, it would be political suicide. Two, there is no money in the budget. Three, they’ll say it’s a local government issue and people should use public transport, or ride a bike.

#17
johnboy9:31 pm, 23 Jul 12

As for the tourists, park at the acton ferry terminal and hire a bike. Best way to see that bit of canberra.

#18
c_c9:37 pm, 23 Jul 12

Aubergine said :

I would have thought it was helpful of the NCA to list all the alternative public parking nearby, rather than ‘unhelpful’. Are these all full when you go to park there? If so, why not consider driving in earlier, or later, when the odds are not everyone else will be trying the same thing. Or… yes, I’m going to say it… catch a bus.

I love it when someone who obviously doesn’t use the facilities and knows nothing about it pipes up with their Greeny holier than now BS.

Yes, they are all full, every day of the work week. That’s the situation for a couple of years now.

And yes, to get a park I get to the library before 9am.

But often I need to leave for other engagements during the day and return, oh dear, no park to return to. As soon as I leave someone takes it, one of the many vehicles circling for a space.

It’s unhelpful of the NCA to provide alternatives on a map that they know full well are full and offer no alternative whatsoever.

IT’S ALSO IRONIC BECAUSE THE NCA STAFF HAVE RESERVED PARKING BEHIND TREASURY, THEY DON’T HAVE TO COMPETE!

#19
Dacquiri10:33 pm, 23 Jul 12

Had to feel sorry for an elderly lady who asked my ACTION bus driver in Civic this afternoon where she could get the free bus that went around the CBD. He sadly (and correctly) told her that there hadn’t been such a thing for years and even gave an accurate description of the pseudo-trolley one that used to exist. ‘Oh,’ said the disappointed visitor, ‘We were told that there was one.’ ‘Well,’ I thought to myself, ‘there bloody should have been!’ What kind of national capital is this that doesn’t provide something like that, which could easily do a circular route as far as Questacon & the National Library?

#20
dungfungus10:56 pm, 23 Jul 12

milkman said :

Masquara said :

Er, why aren’t tourists being asked to use public transport?

Why should they? They bring money into our local economy, surely we should be trying to make things convenient for them.

Er, and what do we have in the way of public transport on a public holiday in the ACT?

#21
Innovation12:23 am, 24 Jul 12

Dacquiri said :

Had to feel sorry for an elderly lady who asked my ACTION bus driver in Civic this afternoon where she could get the free bus that went around the CBD. He sadly (and correctly) told her that there hadn’t been such a thing for years and even gave an accurate description of the pseudo-trolley one that used to exist. ‘Oh,’ said the disappointed visitor, ‘We were told that there was one.’ ‘Well,’ I thought to myself, ‘there bloody should have been!’ What kind of national capital is this that doesn’t provide something like that, which could easily do a circular route as far as Questacon & the National Library?

It is ridiculous that there isn’t a free bus service that circles the whole Parliamentary Triangle (and possibly the National Museum also). Tourists should be able to park in one spot and shuttle it around to other destinations. Probably wouldn’t be much demand though (except for weekends and public holidays) and I suspect the ACT Government can’t see an incentive to provide it if they don’t think they will benefit from any of the money spent in the Triangle.

The Feds should trial a mixture of pay parking and free short stay (around four hours) and change the balance until there is enough parks for tourists. The problem will be workers who just move their cars through the day to use the short stay spots.

AND if it is true that the NCA has their own special carpark this is a HUGE conflict of interest. I can’t believe they are allowed to get away with that.

#22
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:32 am, 24 Jul 12

Catch a bus or ride a bike. Problem solved. Or get another job.
Pretty easy really.

#23
Wanon10:05 am, 24 Jul 12

Run a couple of free loop buses around the parliamentary triangle? Via a large free carpark, perhaps out at Majura Park. That would get me to catch a bus…

#24
thatsnotme10:12 am, 24 Jul 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Catch a bus or ride a bike. Problem solved. Or get another job.
Pretty easy really.

I’m sure all of the people who work there, with young children in school or care who need to be picked up and dropped off, really appreciate the simplicity of your solution.

#25
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd10:16 am, 24 Jul 12

thatsnotme said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Catch a bus or ride a bike. Problem solved. Or get another job.
Pretty easy really.

I’m sure all of the people who work there, with young children in school or care who need to be picked up and dropped off, really appreciate the simplicity of your solution.

If more people rode or caught the bus there would be plenty of parks for those that genuinely need them.

#26
VYBerlinaV8_is_back10:20 am, 24 Jul 12

thatsnotme said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Catch a bus or ride a bike. Problem solved. Or get another job.
Pretty easy really.

I’m sure all of the people who work there, with young children in school or care who need to be picked up and dropped off, really appreciate the simplicity of your solution.

Exactly. Not all of us live lives where we have no other responsibilities.

#27
Onceler10:50 am, 24 Jul 12

If the bus or cycling doesn’t suit you, how about a motorbike or scooter? You may not want to put your kid on the back though.

#28
Zeital11:01 am, 24 Jul 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Catch a bus or ride a bike. Problem solved. Or get another job.
Pretty easy really.

I like how easy you think it is to just get another job…

thanks douche

#29
devils_advocate11:15 am, 24 Jul 12

Zeital said :

thanks douche

Even this late in the month… I am putting in my prediction for mully. This has all the classic topics – job market, parking, cyclists, whether having kids is a lifestyle choice, the general laziness and greed of public servants, just everything.

*gets virtual popcorn*

#30
NoImRight1:01 pm, 24 Jul 12

milkman said :

Masquara said :

Er, why aren’t tourists being asked to use public transport?

Why should they? They bring money into our local economy, surely we should be trying to make things convenient for them.

So do the people that work there.

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