Corrupt horse torture to continue unimpeded in the ACT - Mulcahy very happy.

Sorry, I wouldn’t be involved if there was a sniff of impropriety, my bad

Mael

With all due respect its pretty clear you know nothing of the racing industry, even more so by your own admissions.

Its best you leave the subject to people who actually know what they’re talking about. As a race horse owner that would be ummmmmmmmmm…….me.

If there was any sniff of impropriety I would be involved. When my horse is not in work in Canberra he is happily running around a large field on the NSW South Coast getting treated magnificently. When he comes up to race he loves to do it.

Every sport and industry has been tarred with the brush of impropriety in years past, racing included. Having said this it never ceases to amaze me with the baseless anecdotes told to me about drugs and maltreatment of race horses by people who have never seen the inside of a racecourse, or seen a horse in its environs.

Horse slavery???? Oh my hat!!

If your idea of slavery is being fed magnificently, treated like a god and, when put out to pasture, having sex for the rest of your life then I’m happy to be enslaved.

Leave the reality to the knowledgeable.

BTW, an each way bet on Thats Just Great in the Catbird Stakes next Friday at Canberra is advised

I’m with Thumper, WTF. Enjoy your beer together this arvo, and solve the worlds problems together. This isn’t one of them…

You just don’t get it do you ?

How often is there a race in Canberra, that is run with only Canberran horses, and Canberran jockeys ?

A horse in Kentucky, USA can quite easily be put on a plane, flown in, and flaring it’s drugged up nostrils right next to your precious one without too much hassle.

I merely used the point to highlight the fact that it’s not necessarily the purity of your immediate world that I’m talking about here, nor does it not affect you at all. I’m sure your horse has been drug tested for example.

I’m not saying that the horse is on a plane/ship/train on the way to Australia right now, I’m merely saying that it could potentially happen. It could just as easily be a horse from Melbourne, a horse from Toowoomba, from Perth, from fucking Dubai for all I care.

The fact that you humanely only flog your horse in the last 100m of a race, and feed it only on fresh green peas snapped straight from the vine, whilst erstwhile, does not change the impression that has been set by a global industry in horse slavery.

Starting to sink in ?

I could google up some more, but I can’t be bothered. If I did, I’d probably narrow my search to something like “horse maltreatment” to get some really juicy stuff.

It’s Friday, very nearly pub-o-clock. ACC should have been applicable from the outset of the act, for the very nature of the word ‘jockey’ implies that you ride a horse for a living.

Trying to tell me that it’s a clean business however, I’m afraid I have google backing me up to tell you that it’s not as pearly white as you think…

From the story

“Drugged horse gets Foley fine, suspension

The Courier-Journal, KY USA
Greg Foley, the leading trainer at Turfway Park this meet with 19 victories, has been suspended for 10 days and fined $500 by Turfway’s stewards after one of his horses tested positive for acepromazine, a common tranquilizer that can be used for training but is not allowed to be in a horse’s system while racing”

To prove an incorrect point, you go to a news article in Kentucky, USA, completely not relevant to the issue of Jockey insurance in Austrlia, and you still get it wrong.

From http://horseproducts.stablemade.com/_Articles/ace.htm

Acepromazine may be used as a sedative to facilitate handling of the animal during diagnostic procedures, veterinary treatments, shipping or other situations which require a “tranquilizer.’ The veterinarian will also use acepromazine during minor or major surgical procedures alone or in combination with local or general anesthetics.

Its a horse sedative used to make life easier for the animal and vet working on the animal, traces of which were found in the horses system after a race. The trainer got suspended. Is that cruelty? No, its compassionate treatment.

You have to do better than that Mael… 😉

Very true assumption, I don’t know a bloody thing about horse racing. I hope you grimace just as much as I will, the next time one of the few elements I have mentioned gets splattered over the news.

It’s not a comment I made lightly, pop this into your browser http://news.google.com.au/news?hl=en&ned=au&q=horse

SEVEN Links down is:

Drugged horse gets Foley fine, suspension
Louisville Courier-Journal, KY – 13 hours ago
… one of his horses tested positive for acepromazine, a common tranquilizer that can be used for training but is not allowed to be in a horse’s system while …

*grimaces*

As we all know, I am a lefty bleeding heart liberal who loves animals and thinks people who are cruel to them are worse than drug dealers.

There will always be some racehorse owners who treat their animals like shit. However, most of them want their animal to win. An animal who is mistreated won’t win. The majority of owners, in my experience, treat their horses better than their girlfriends! They are very well looked after, and at least they aren’t left in a paddock to starve like many “riding ponies” owned by little rich bitches who get bored with them.

Mael

vg has you by actually knowing a few facts about racing. A close friend is a leading Canberra trainer – and the attention to detail in preparation, animal welfare, training and all other aspects of the horses health are second to none. These guys and girls look after their animals far better than the average bloke looks after himself.

As vg said, racing isn’t perfect, but racing authorities have clamped down on any sort of corruption, either by jockeys, trainers etc, with 12 month bans for first offences.

I’m glad to see racing is back in Canberra for the future. Bring on the Black Opal!

Mael

I’m afraid your last comments show how woefully naive you are in relation to the contemporary horse racing industry. Contemporary racing is subject to the animal equivalent of sports drug testing.

If a racehorse is ‘overweight’ it is put on a diet, it is not starved. Starving would do irrepairable damage. People pay hundreds of thousands for some of these fine creatures and would tend to lose the plot a little if they knew their investments were being ‘starved’.

Once, a fair time ago, the industry had its shady aspects. It isn’t perfect, but is far from rampant with corruption and the like nowadays.

I have been heavily involved in racing for a few years now. If I saw something awry I would do something about it. I dont see the need

Ferret, you have blatantly ignored some extremely compelling arguments in that statement.

If you want to discuss Corruption, I’ll lead you down the track called ‘horse doping’ or ‘horse steroids’.

Discussing cruelty by arguing other stock were treated crueller – ‘so that’s ok’, isn’t.

If a racehorse is overweight, it will be starved.

And in relation to them being finely bred, you are correct, but there are several compelling counterarguments towards genetic selection and genetic manipulation.

At the end of the day though, it’s not as bad as with other species, for example I’d hate to be a sheep or a cow in this day and age (pretty much know your not going to die due to old age).

It merely shows that since we are higher up on the food chain, we call the shots.