Criminal Lawyers in Canberra with computer crime experience?

By 7 January, 2013 16

I’m having a real hard time finding a Criminal Lawyer who can deal with computer related crimes, or has experience in it.

There’s an abundance of them in Sydney and Melbourne but can’t find one for the life of me here in the ACT.

Anyone know of lawyers that wont think .Gif is a misspelling of gift?

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16 Responses to Criminal Lawyers in Canberra with computer crime experience?
#1
liability3:24 pm, 07 Jan 13

You could try Jason Parkinson at Porters Lawyers, I know that he has experience in that area. Jason is also a former policeman so he is familiar with police procedures.

Most decent lawyers, even if they are computer savvy, will still call in a recognised IT expert to consult with and to provide expert evidence in Court.

Disclaimer – I previously worked with Jason many years ago.

#2
xceL3:31 pm, 07 Jan 13

Thanks, I’ll look into that :)

I’m only after an initial consultation so I feel it would be handy to speak to a solicitor who has some experience or knowledge of computers or cases to get the right advice.

#3
TAD3:36 pm, 07 Jan 13

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

#4
liability4:23 pm, 07 Jan 13

I don’t know if you have had any previous experience with lawyers. Just so you are forwarned, they are not cheap.

Most lawyers will charge at least $250 to $300 an hour for your run of the mill solicitor, anywhere up to $800 an hour for a parnter of special counsel. Smaller firms generally have lower rates than the larger firms.

If you defend the matter in Court a barrister will charge you a daily fee of around $4,000 depending upon their experience etc.

It won’t take long to rack up $10,000 in legal fees. I have seen some defended matters that have dragged on and racked up many times that amount in legal fees.

Most lawyers will generally give you the first consultation free, but don’t expect much from it, it will probably only last 15 minutes. They will usually tell you that they need more information and details from you and you will require further appointments for which you will be billed.

If you do engage a solicitor they will give you a cost agreement to sign which should details their costs and their estimate of what the case should cost you.

#5
xceL6:09 pm, 07 Jan 13

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

No TAD. This doesn’t involve any child pornography at all.. It’s interesting how this is the first thing that pops into many peoples heads.

liability said :

I don’t know if you have had any previous experience with lawyers. Just so you are forwarned, they are not cheap.

Most lawyers will charge at least $250 to $300 an hour for your run of the mill solicitor, anywhere up to $800 an hour for a parnter of special counsel. Smaller firms generally have lower rates than the larger firms.

If you defend the matter in Court a barrister will charge you a daily fee of around $4,000 depending upon their experience etc.

Wait, what? The defendant has to pay court fees? I thought this was the prosecutors job.

#6
kos7:43 pm, 07 Jan 13

A lawyer who knows what they are doing and a case will cost upwards of 10k, you’ll need to decide not only if its worth it, but if you have sufficient evidence. As computer intrusion is actually a crime, you should be able to enlist the assitance of the police, in our case the AFP. Call Ph:(02) 6223 3216 to get them directly or log a normal case on 131444. For other help;

CERT AU may provide some assistance for free, I have had them contact me in regards to personal data on the internet etc.

https://www.cert.gov.au/

AUSCERT Are non government and in Brisbane and provide excellent support and information to private enterprise on incidents.

http://www.auscert.com.au/

DBCDE/ACMA provide some support to private enterprise on information security;

http://www.staysmartonline.gov.au/
http://www.acma.gov.au

DSD have singalled many times that they are interested in helping both Government and Private, but as a private entity it is hard to even get them to say hello to you.

http://www.dsd.gov.au/

If the evidence isn’t handled correctly from day dot (copy taken, time drift noted and sighted, chain of evidence etc) then your case will be fairly useless. In order to get any additional information from 3rd parties such as telecommunications carriers you will need not only a case logged with the police but an evidence warrant, and you’ll need this in order to prove that something happened on the malicious attackers end as well as your end (eg it wasnt spoofed).

#7
buzz8198:28 pm, 07 Jan 13

xceL said :

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

No TAD. This doesn’t involve any child pornography at all.. It’s interesting how this is the first thing that pops into many peoples heads.

liability said :

I don’t know if you have had any previous experience with lawyers. Just so you are forwarned, they are not cheap.

Most lawyers will charge at least $250 to $300 an hour for your run of the mill solicitor, anywhere up to $800 an hour for a parnter of special counsel. Smaller firms generally have lower rates than the larger firms.

If you defend the matter in Court a barrister will charge you a daily fee of around $4,000 depending upon their experience etc.

Wait, what? The defendant has to pay court fees? I thought this was the prosecutors job.

Umm… Of course court is not free… Normally the loser pays court fees

#8
liability8:43 pm, 07 Jan 13

Without you providing more information it is a bit hard for anyone to offer any more meaningful advice.

xceL – I am not sure what you mean by the Defendant having to pay Court fees? I was referring to what your defence team might charge you. If you are found not guilty you can apply for costs from the prosecution, but even if costs are granted it won’t be for the full amount.

kos – You don’t need to get an “evidence warrant”, if proceedings have been commenced you can simply get a subpoena issued for that information. Quite a simple matter.

#9
LSWCHP9:08 pm, 07 Jan 13

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

Given that you have no information whatsoever, I’d rate that as the crap comment of the month.

#10
Pork Hunt10:15 pm, 07 Jan 13

LSWCHP said :

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

Given that you have no information whatsoever, I’d rate that as the crap comment of the month.

That’s a big call given that this is RA and the month is only seven days old.

#11
mareva7:21 am, 08 Jan 13

You thought it was the prosecutor’s “job” to pay for your defence?

Mate…

#12
CateD3:57 pm, 09 Jan 13

The lawyer you need may depend on the nature of the crime of which the person involved is accused. Not knowing the detail of the crime alleged, I would recommend Karen Fogarty from Colquhoun Murphy. She has a science degree (math) and is quite computer literate.

#13
Tetranitrate4:13 pm, 09 Jan 13

xceL said :

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

No TAD. This doesn’t involve any child pornography at all.. It’s interesting how this is the first thing that pops into many peoples heads.

liability said :

I don’t know if you have had any previous experience with lawyers. Just so you are forwarned, they are not cheap.

Most lawyers will charge at least $250 to $300 an hour for your run of the mill solicitor, anywhere up to $800 an hour for a parnter of special counsel. Smaller firms generally have lower rates than the larger firms.

If you defend the matter in Court a barrister will charge you a daily fee of around $4,000 depending upon their experience etc.

Wait, what? The defendant has to pay court fees? I thought this was the prosecutors job.

Ignore them.
For some reason there are numpties who can manage to open and comment on a thread without seeing the word “Criminal” in the title. Court fees apply to civil matters last I checked.

#14
Tetranitrate4:14 pm, 09 Jan 13

buzz819 said :

xceL said :

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

No TAD. This doesn’t involve any child pornography at all.. It’s interesting how this is the first thing that pops into many peoples heads.

liability said :

I don’t know if you have had any previous experience with lawyers. Just so you are forwarned, they are not cheap.

Most lawyers will charge at least $250 to $300 an hour for your run of the mill solicitor, anywhere up to $800 an hour for a parnter of special counsel. Smaller firms generally have lower rates than the larger firms.

If you defend the matter in Court a barrister will charge you a daily fee of around $4,000 depending upon their experience etc.

Wait, what? The defendant has to pay court fees? I thought this was the prosecutors job.

Umm… Of course court is not free… Normally the loser pays court fees

You’re an idiot. Stop offering idiot advice, you idiot.
CRIMINAL. Not civil.

#15
LSWCHP5:40 pm, 09 Jan 13

Pork Hunt said :

LSWCHP said :

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

Given that you have no information whatsoever, I’d rate that as the crap comment of the month.

That’s a big call given that this is RA and the month is only seven days old.

Although I didn’t write it, I meant “…of the month so far”, which means it’s only a fairly moderate call really. Still, accusing someone of being a kiddie porn drooler on the basis of nothing at all is a pretty outstanding effort.

#16
Lookout Smithers6:57 pm, 09 Jan 13

TAD said :

Pesky viruses put child porn on your computer hey? Pay an expert enough, he’ll confuse the jury with enough techno babble to get you off.

And there will always be someone championing the victims of child abuse. TAD, ic. ……….. Hold on, I thought the post was asking for info on lawyers regarding computer crime and such? Chill out matey, not everyone is out to rape and pillage the world.

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