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Do you want to pay for Zed’s Senate run? [With poll]

By johnboy - 12 February 2013 29

It’s a bit of a poser, Zed Seselja intends to draw a front bench Legislative Assembly salary to the last possible moment while running for the Senate (assuming he gets up in the pre-selection).

Should the Canberra community be indulging him in this?

Zed mooching around the Assembly to election day

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29 Responses to
Do you want to pay for Zed’s Senate run? [With poll]
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enrique 9:20 am
12 Feb 13
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Bit of a loaded question…

You’d assume he still had a job responsibility to live up to in his ACT role and that he’d be held accountable to it would he?

Sure, if he really did end up getting too distracted to carry out is ACT LA role properly then questions should be asked but if he’s still effective in what he’s being paid (and voted in) to do then what’s the problem?

Having a poll like this is dangerous territory… how would you feel if you were fired the second you made your intentions known that you were going to move on from your own job…? Worse, if people didn’t feel comfortable making their intentions about moving on known (especially in high profile leadership roles) then we end up with chaos all the time as people made shock announcements and then left things in disarray the very next day.

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johnboy 9:24 am
12 Feb 13
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He’s an elected representative, not an employee.

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chewy14 9:34 am
12 Feb 13
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Well until the elections actually called I don’t see why there would be a problem.

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Duffbowl 9:36 am
12 Feb 13
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If Zed does head off to the Senate, am I right in thinking that the fourth placed Lib for Brindabella will become a MLA? That would be big, bad Val Jeffrey.

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MTK 9:42 am
12 Feb 13
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The biggest issue is the primacy of sheer political amibition. Plenty of people (including elected representatives) moonlight with second jobs and job applications.

Elected Liberal knifing elected Liberal is far more unbecoming.

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TwainAndHume 9:46 am
12 Feb 13
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Too soon after being elected to fulfill a MLA role. Definitely gives the impression he is not focused on the ACT and more on letting his ambition run away with him ….

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Leon 9:49 am
12 Feb 13
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enrique said :

…if he’s still effective in what he’s being paid (and voted in) to do then what’s the problem?.

Spot on!

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Pork Hunt 9:51 am
12 Feb 13
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Surely this isn’t the first time this sort of thing has happened?
In NSW, people go from local government to the state legislatures regularly. In fact, I think my local state member (Barilaro) is wearing two hats as we speak because he stayed on the council.

In the ACT, I guess there are rules and if they say Zed can stay then so be it.
If you don’t like that then speak to the people that make the rules.

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Billy_Shears 9:54 am
12 Feb 13
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We’ll still be paying for him either way, whether he stays on London Circuit or moves up to the red chamber on Capital Hill

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Ghettosmurf87 9:55 am
12 Feb 13
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enrique said :

Bit of a loaded question…

You’d assume he still had a job responsibility to live up to in his ACT role and that he’d be held accountable to it would he?

Except that as an elected representative, he is only held accountable at the next ACT election. Something he won’t be going to, seeing as he intends to run for the Senate in 7 months time.

He went to the ACT election, as a Liberal member, stating that he wanted to represent the people of his electorate. They voted him in to do just that. The period he is elected for is until the next ACT election.

To publicly state, just over three months after being elected, that you will not be seeing out your term but that you are happy to be remunerated anyway is pretty damn disrespectful.

The ACT public have no way to “hold him accountable” for his actions over the next 7 months. We are his employers, yet we won’t get to review his performance at all. He could sit on his ass in the Assembly and do sweet FA until the federal election and there is not a thing that can be done about it.

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dungfungus 10:06 am
12 Feb 13
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johnboy said :

He’s an elected representative, not an employee.

Correct; and he is elected to The Senate he will still remain an elected representative for the ACT so the outcome is the same.

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dpm 10:45 am
12 Feb 13
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Leon said :

enrique said :

…if he’s still effective in what he’s being paid (and voted in) to do then what’s the problem?.

Spot on!

I think the problem is the word ‘effective’, but that may be subjective! I can’t think of much they have done post-election…. Then again, that could cover the majority of the assembly! :-)

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bikhet 10:50 am
12 Feb 13
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enrique said :

Bit of a loaded question…

You’d assume he still had a job responsibility to live up to in his ACT role and that he’d be held accountable to it would he?

Sure, if he really did end up getting too distracted to carry out is ACT LA role properly then questions should be asked but if he’s still effective in what he’s being paid (and voted in) to do then what’s the problem?

Assumes he’s ever been effective in his job.

enrique said :

Having a poll like this is dangerous territory… how would you feel if you were fired the second you made your intentions known that you were going to move on from your own job…? Worse, if people didn’t feel comfortable making their intentions about moving on known (especially in high profile leadership roles) then we end up with chaos all the time as people made shock announcements and then left things in disarray the very next day.

Seen it done. Say you’ve got a new job and two security guards appear at your desk, tell you to clean it out, and escort you out the door.

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dpm 10:53 am
12 Feb 13
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dungfungus said :

johnboy said :

He’s an elected representative, not an employee.

Correct; and he is elected to The Senate he will still remain an elected representative for the ACT so the outcome is the same.

But who pays for Assembly salaries and for Senate salaries? While it all comes out of our taxes somehow, if one is from ACT Govt and one from Federal revenue, it may be that the ACT Govt could use that money elsewhere on ACT-specific projects? A bit trivial, but technically different.

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chewy14 10:56 am
12 Feb 13
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Ghettosmurf87 said :

The ACT public have no way to “hold him accountable” for his actions over the next 7 months. We are his employers, yet we won’t get to review his performance at all. He could sit on his ass in the Assembly and do sweet FA until the federal election and there is not a thing that can be done about it.

How is that different to when any other member of any other parliament announces they won’t be standing for re-election?

It’s wholly part of our system.

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