Election wrap – 13 October

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Liberals:

The Canberra Times reckons they’ve seen the elusive Liberal Party health policy. More beds and a “super theatre”. Sexy.

According to the ABC Katy Gallagher is not impressed by the Liberal policy. One imagines they could have copied hers line for line and she’d still have said the same thing. Katy’s media release on this is now available.

The ABC has word that Zed Seselja would spend $8 million studying a light rail proposal if he were king. The media release on this is now online.

Zed’s had his class warrior hat on, announcing more money for non-Government education in his efforts to smash the oiks.

CAP:

Roger Nicoll, in common with all non-incumbent politicians is in favour of more Freedom of Infomation.

Mulcahy Canberra Party:

Richard Mulcahy’s announced an education policy. More pay for teachers and more information for parents.

Labor:

Andrew Barr says that only he can promise more loot for every single school. Presumably without reference as to whether they need it or not?

Katy Gallagher is promising discount solar panels on houses. Our burning desire to be known as “Australia’s solar capital” will finally be realised.

JonKat has announced $6 million to be associated in our minds with children and caring. We all want more money for children and caring right?

Jon Stanhope has told the ABC he regrets not educating the community better as to why he was right to sue a coroner investigating how a chunk of the city got vaporised without warning on his watch.

Jon Stanhope is offering a $10,000 interest free loan to home owners at risk of defaulting on their mortgages. Nothing for the renters from the party of the workers?

Greens:

The Greens are thrilled that their art sale fund raiser went so well last night.

They’ve also announced that they’re for a data centre with power cogeneration. But they’re against the proposed Macarthur site.

Shane Rattenbury would like a seat at the leaders debate. He’d also like to hear what the major parties have to say about the Greens’ Commitment to Canberra.

Field Notes:

Passy writes:

    Socialist Alternative meets every Thursday at 6 pm in room G 52 of the Haydon-Allen Building at the ANU.

    Our discussion on 16 October is on the way the ALP manages capitalism in the interests of employers.

    email canberra@sa.org.au  or visit www.sa.org.au

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Gungahlin Al spake:

    John Hargreaves is on the record with a pretty solid “I’ll see out the full next term”, making it pretty hard to pull out the health-reasons card part-way through.

    There’s now a mumble getting around that John Hargreaves is heading for the Speaker role if his party wins. It’s becoming known as the “Departure Lounge” given the last couple of incumbents have gone from that role into retirement. When you hear this kind of rumour from one place you go “meh”, but when you hear it from a few different sources, you really start to wonder…

    So could this be how Mr Hargreaves sees out his final four years in the Assembly? And how would the good folk of Tuggeranong feel about giving him that option? Or would they instead be more inclined to support someone else on the ALP ticket, or perhaps even be tempted the way of the Greens’ Amanda Breslan?

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Skaboy12 said:

    I just recieved a call at work informing me the the AMP will be having a rally on Friday night. Apparently it will be happening at City Custom Exhaust in Braddon at 8pm this Friday night. While I won’t be in attendance (NSW Resident) and I don’t really support one issue parties, if you are interested I would encourage you to head out there and see what they have to say.

    While your there push them on issues other then motorsport, I would love to hear the responses they give.

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David Matthews, Labor for Molonglo, contributed:

And we all thought this election was about what people and parties stood for…no, it’s all about public art…

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Rosebud said:

    Just got Mike Hettinger’s election brochure in the post. Without close inspection, it looks suspiciously like a brochure for a Greens Candidate. Mostly because, well, it’s printed on green coloured paper, looks cheap and home made, with the words Green, Greener and Greenest plastered everywhere (well, not greenest, but you get the gist). On closer examination a teeny tiny Labour logo can be seen on the back.

    The only word that beat Green for frequency was his own name. Mike, Mike, Mike. Mike does this, Mike does that, Mike is here, Mike is there. Like some sort of idiot savant who can only refer to himself in the third person.

    Here are some of the most important things that Mike thinks we should know about Mike…verbatim…including liberal use of exclamation marks!!!

  • Mike came here for true love!
  • Mike actually is a rocket scientist!
  • Mike was educated at Holy Cross College by Jesuit Monks!
  • Mike received a medal from the US Airforce for saving the lives of two Soviet divers.

Among other gems, Mike has a photo of himself and friends at Dickson college – both of them.

Did Mike mean to make me laugh? Is this ‘humour angle’ a new election ploy? Do politicians even have a sense of humour, or do they have it surgically removed before preselection?

It’s all Mike to me. Mike it!

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Deezagood opined:

    Community Group ‘Canberrans for Power Station Relocation’ have made a short clip that demonstrates, quite clearly, the ethics of our illustrious Mr Stanhope. It is worth watching the whole clip. Makes you wonder what other spin has been generated in relation to a raft of other issues. Seriously – Mr Stanhope, how can you treat your own community with such contempt?

    http://www.vimeo.com/1936870

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iCanberran offered:

    How do you make policy exciting, add the word “super”. The Liberals have announced an elective surgery “super theatre” for Calvary. The details (on page 10 of the Lib’s health policy) are sketchy and not even written with correct English.

    “The first Elective Surgery Super Theatre will be based at Calvary Hospital, where
    many elective surgery procedures currently take place, and which already has many of
    the systems and personnel in place. The Super Theatre have three new operating
    theatres, to accommodate a mix of public and privately funded procedures. ”

    When they said super theatre, I was hoping for some kick ass stadium seating and in-seat dining like at Dendy so we can watch people have hip replacements in comfort. In reality, they’re offering hype.

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75 Responses to Election wrap – 13 October
#1
jessieduck12:23 pm, 13 Oct 08

Greens to win based on poll at 1220hrs Monday. Yey!!

#2
amarooresident12:32 pm, 13 Oct 08

Saw Norvan “campaigning’ on Northbourne Ave again this morning. Handpainted signs are not a good look.

#3
jakez12:32 pm, 13 Oct 08

The liberal Democrats are duking it out for second place! I choose to believe that at 12.23pm, this poll is a completely accurate representation of Saturdays results

#4
Skidbladnir12:36 pm, 13 Oct 08

amarooresident said :

Handpainted signs are not a good look.

I don’t mind a local polly getting a bit grubby (provided the end result doesn’t end up being too dodgy), but its probably a bargain for CAP to have Norvan do fingerpainting, compared to paying low-volume, high-single-purchase-risk corflute prices that people are just going to tear down anyway.

#5
Cameron12:41 pm, 13 Oct 08

So if Stanhope thinks he failed to adequately explain suing the coroner, does that mean he will now offer an adequate explanation (if he even has one)?

The Green vote disturbs me. Greens with the balance of power in a Labor minority government? Oh dear.

#6
poptop12:51 pm, 13 Oct 08

JonKat?! Tee Hee

If Hargreaves returns [which seems inevitable] the speaker’s chair seems the safest position for him. It is a Departure Lounge for people who either don’t toe the party line or are a complete embarrassment.

The idea of Hargreaves upholding the rules of conduct in the Assemby is . . . interesting.

#7
Danman12:57 pm, 13 Oct 08

Phew – I was the only Labor voter there for a tick…..

#8
justbands1:18 pm, 13 Oct 08

> The Green vote disturbs me. Greens with the balance of power in a Labor minority government? Oh dear.

Over 60 votes & The Greens still ahead! Perhaps it’s “Labour with the balance of power in a Greens minority government” Oh dear.

#9
Kramer1:18 pm, 13 Oct 08

What’s Norvan doing with handpainted signs? Isn’t he riding on the Canberra Business Group’s money?? Unless the signs were painted by Monet or Jackson Pollack?!?

BTW – Greens still leading the poll an hour later @ 1:20

#10
Cameron1:23 pm, 13 Oct 08

Fortunately it’s already well established that RA isn’t exactly an accurate cross-section of the voting community.

But justbands… your oh dear is much more of a concern than mine!

#11
SamTSeppo1:23 pm, 13 Oct 08

Can we get a picture of the handpainted signs? Handpainted signs always make me think of nutters like this guy:

http://memewatch.com/thelist/archives/pix/morans.jpg

#12
Granny1:29 pm, 13 Oct 08

LOL!

#13
amarooresident1:33 pm, 13 Oct 08

Norvan was also sitting at a card table with his head buried in a laptop.

SamTSeppo said :

Can we get a picture of the handpainted signs? Handpainted signs always make me think of nutters like this guy:

http://memewatch.com/thelist/archives/pix/morans.jpg

LOL. As I zoomed by I think Norvan’s were at least spelt correctly.

#14
Primal1:48 pm, 13 Oct 08

Andrew Barr’s oddly green signs were back on Melrose Drive this morning. And it caused me to realise that I haven’t seen a single sign for Katy Gallagher, Simon Corbell or Zed Seselja (as individuals) down Woden/Weston Creek way. Lots of signs for lower-profiled folk like David Mathews and Clinton White, but not the big names.

Do they presume they don’t need the advertising? Is it just a given that party voters will mark off the big names first?

#15
Danman1:52 pm, 13 Oct 08

http://memewatch.com/thelist/archives/pix/morans.jpg

Could be a reference to an underworld figure in Melbourne.

#16
fhakk1:54 pm, 13 Oct 08

Try asking Hargreaves’ colleague Mick Gentleman whether he’ll be in the comfy chair come October 19. I’ve heard Mick will get the nod.

Meanwhile, has anyone seen some of the posters for Tony Farrell, the independent? Hand-coloured photocopies, complete with a comic about monkey-brains at the bottom. Pure class.

#17
Jazz2:09 pm, 13 Oct 08

Kramer said :

What’s Norvan doing with handpainted signs? Isn’t he riding on the Canberra Business Group’s money?? Unless the signs were painted by Monet or Jackson Pollack?!?

I understand from a discussion with norvan at last weeks sim challenge where he was supporting owen saddler that the he doesnt get to dictate where the canberra business group’s money gets spent, which its why its all been going on high priced TV advertising.

#18
LG2:15 pm, 13 Oct 08

fhakk said :

Try asking Hargreaves’ colleague Mick Gentleman whether he’ll be in the comfy chair come October 19. I’ve heard Mick will get the nod.

If I had to put money on it, I’d definitely tip Mick to get the speaker’s spot after the election.

#19
jakez2:18 pm, 13 Oct 08

Primal said :

Andrew Barr’s oddly green signs were back on Melrose Drive this morning. And it caused me to realise that I haven’t seen a single sign for Katy Gallagher, Simon Corbell or Zed Seselja (as individuals) down Woden/Weston Creek way. Lots of signs for lower-profiled folk like David Mathews and Clinton White, but not the big names.

Do they presume they don’t need the advertising? Is it just a given that party voters will mark off the big names first?

I saw some Zed signs on the street that runs along the Kingston foreshore on the way to Civic.

I guess they probably don’t need the name recognition so it might not be an efficient use of resources.

#20
verbalkint2:34 pm, 13 Oct 08

Yeah, our electoral system here is all about name recognition unfortunately, so if people already know your name, you don’t really need signs by the side of the road reminding them about it.

My money would be on Mick to step into the speakers chair after the election, should Labor form a majority or minority government, that is.

Perhaps, if the Libs form government they might put Vicki Dunne in there to keep her away from a Ministry.

#21
Skidbladnir2:41 pm, 13 Oct 08

Frack I hate this ip-unique poll tallying method, especially for highly-visible questions like this.

Apparently you’re all fairly-left, and are generating a bizarre pool of results.
1437hrs: 31ACTLab, 29Green, 28CanLib, 24CAP, 8Mot, 7Ind, 3Mulcahy, 3Lib Dem, 2Pang.

And I don’t get a vote, because of unique-ip checking.

#22
Thumper2:41 pm, 13 Oct 08

Ha!

My 7-7-2-1 is looking good.

ALP, Lib, Green, CAP respectively.

#23
Norvan.Vogt2:43 pm, 13 Oct 08

Just a quick note, the CBC support was ‘tied TV advertising’. I actually didn’t get any cash from the CBC. Their support is great and it’s got me on TV which I am really thankful for. As for the rest it is all coming out of my pocket and I don’t have the cash for printing fancy signs. A 1200X900mm printed corflute sign is about $250 each for a once off. My signs are $6 for the MBF and $2 for the paint. Sorry that the hand painted look is not appealing to some, just think of me as being fiscally responsible.

#24
Deadmandrinking2:46 pm, 13 Oct 08

Norvan.Vogt said :

Just a quick note, the CBC support was ‘tied TV advertising’. I actually didn’t get any cash from the CBC. Their support is great and it’s got me on TV which I am really thankful for. As for the rest it is all coming out of my pocket and I don’t have the cash for printing fancy signs. A 1200X900mm printed corflute sign is about $250 each for a once off. My signs are $6 for the MBF and $2 for the paint. Sorry that the hand painted look is not appealing to some, just think of me as being fiscally responsible.

I’m not voting for you purely because you of the ‘vogt’ pun thing on the ad.

#25
Primal2:49 pm, 13 Oct 08

Norvan.Vogt said :

My signs are $6 for the MBF and $2 for the paint. Sorry that the hand painted look is not appealing to some, just think of me as being fiscally responsible.

You should go for a public art grant!

#26
LG2:58 pm, 13 Oct 08

verbalkint said :

Perhaps, if the Libs form government they might put Vicki Dunne in there to keep her away from a Ministry.

I wouldn’t be suprised if she doesn’t get elected in the first place.

#27
Thumper3:00 pm, 13 Oct 08

Neither would I be greatly surprised by that result.

#28
Skidbladnir3:02 pm, 13 Oct 08

Hooray for spending next-to-nothing on your signs, but don’t you know we’ll soon have someone being offended about how you’re trying to put the signwirters out of business, a la the chicken man?

the ‘vogt’ pun thing on the ad.
That really is a terrible pun, especially when combined with the grinning eyebrow waggle.
Nobody wants a smug punning politician on their tv.

And when are you going to send in your email interview?

#29
georgetee3:14 pm, 13 Oct 08

I would not be surprised if Norvan did misspell his hand painted signs, the guy is an absolute retard! If you look at his blog it’s full of spelling and grammar mistakes. Even his orange broaches spell university with a q, what an idiot. His biography says that he is doing a Masters at UNSW, well if that’s the case then the bar must be set pretty low! I would like to see what his undergraduate degree is? – creative origami from the University of Captains Flat? There is no way I am going to vote for someone who can’t even spell.

#30
justbands3:26 pm, 13 Oct 08

>> Apparently you’re all fairly-left, and are generating a bizarre pool of results.

Canberrans? Fairly left? You think? ;-)

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