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Elective surgery to be outsourced to Queanbeyan

By 10 February 2011 19

The Canberra Times reports that the under-utilised Queanbeyan hospital is going to be used to handle overflow from Canberra Hospital.

Elective-surgery patients will be treated across the border in Queanbeyan under an agreement in principle reached between the ACT and NSW governments.

Under the agreement, patients would bypass escalating waiting lists for non-urgent surgery in Canberra hospitals, and instead be treated in under-utilised hospital wards in Queanbeyan.

When waiting for surgery a trip to Queanbeyan, to get it done faster, probably doesn’t seem that onerous.

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19 Responses to Elective surgery to be outsourced to Queanbeyan
#1
John Moulis11:35 am, 10 Feb 11

When we have to start looking at Queanbeyan to provide basic services such as health care it’s time to start worrying.

#2
verbalkint12:20 pm, 10 Feb 11

Here lies the problem with marginal electorates, QBN got a hospital because it is in a marginal seat.

So they build the hospital and there isnt enough demand to fill it, rather than building it in the ACT where there is huge demand, and where people from QBN often have to go in order to have their more complex procedures completed.

Crazy system!

#3
George1:58 pm, 10 Feb 11

The problem is that local Member Steve Whan boasts about the newly built hospital but fails to mention that the $50 million dollar hospital had operating theatres working at only 20% of their capacity. Nor does he ever mention that Queanbeyan Hospital has the capacity to do 120 procedures a month but is presently doing only 24. Why, well because Mr Whan can’t secure funds for staffing or services. I know one specialist who has to threaten to withdraw his services to be paid on time.

#4
JustThinking2:23 pm, 10 Feb 11

verbalkint said :

Here lies the problem with marginal electorates, QBN got a hospital because it is in a marginal seat.

So they build the hospital and there isnt enough demand to fill it, rather than building it in the ACT where there is huge demand, and where people from QBN often have to go in order to have their more complex procedures completed.

Crazy system!

Queanbeyan has had a hospital (same one mind you) since the 1840′s or 1860′s. They didn’t just build it due to marginal seats.
They did improve/rebuild it and so they should. It is historical in the fact that before ACT was even thought of Queanbeyan hospital was providing services to the whole area (including what is now known as ACT)

Far enough not alot of big surgeries going on, as it has almost closed a few times due to the condition it was in. Being as old as it was and only ever having ‘touch ups’ done alot of it was falling to pieces. NOW it is rebuilt it is finally in a condition to start functioning as a hospital should.

Geeshus ACT already pulled down Canberra Hospital..IF you are in such a need why do it?

#5
homeone3:10 pm, 10 Feb 11

I heard John Hatzistergos explain why the new hospital in Queanbeyan was different to hospitals in similar sized towns in regional NSW.

He’s not some one I’d normally listen to however as the subject was local I listened.

His explanation was that as Canberra Hospital was nearby and as it had a much wider range of services than the usual regional NSW hospital that the regional need for the SE was extra beds rather than every bit of possible medical test equipment. Made sense to me.

If I needed surgery would I go to Queanbeyan Hospital [all local jokes aside]? Yes and with no more trepidation than I would on going to an ACT hospital for surgery.

#6
Keijidosha3:32 pm, 10 Feb 11

JustThinking said :

verbalkint said :

Here lies the problem with marginal electorates, QBN got a hospital because it is in a marginal seat.

Queanbeyan has had a hospital (same one mind you) since the 1840′s or 1860′s. They didn’t just build it due to marginal seats.

You seemed to have missed the point. The old QBN hospital was decrepid because it was unterutilised, and therefore underfunded. The new hospital was built because QBN is in a marginal seat. However if the logical thing had been done (demolish the old hospital and put more funding into the larger ACT system) then there would have been lynchings in Monaro Street.

The old Canberra Hospital was demolished because it too was old and decrepid. Centralising services to an improved WVH would have been a smart move IF the ACT Government could run a health system effectively.

I recently had an elective proceedure performed and my surgeon chose QBN hospital. (I am an ACT resident). Notwithstanding the fact that my proceedure was rescheduled 3 times due to a lack of staff, it still saved me a 9-12 month wait in the ACT system.

#7
JustThinking4:01 pm, 10 Feb 11

Keijidosha said :

I recently had an elective proceedure performed and my surgeon chose QBN hospital. (I am an ACT resident). Notwithstanding the fact that my proceedure was rescheduled 3 times due to a lack of staff, it still saved me a 9-12 month wait in the ACT system.

Queanbeyan Hospital for many many years has just been used a nursing home for the elderly or a “break” for the Mental Health clients.
Most other medical issues were sent to WVH, which only increased the problems for the ACT.

I didn’t “miss” the point. I was replying to the person who said “”QBN got a hospital because it is in a marginal seat. So they build the hospital and there isnt enough demand to fill it,”"
I was stating Queanbeyan ALWAYS had a hospital and long before ACT did and it had nothing to do with marginal seats.
MAYBE the rebuilt new hospital did, but not the old one.

Good that Queanbeyan has marginal seats and a new hospital. Saves us all going to ACT and using up the precious resources complained about so much.
Staff will come in time.
I had my first child in 1982 at the old Canberra Hospital because Queanbeyan Hospital at that time were NOT doing deliveries and there were no gynecologists in Queanbeyan. Things have been changing and it is good to see.

#8
BearBuns4:06 pm, 10 Feb 11

I was on the waiting list at TCH for an operation for nine months before my surgeon finally gave up and booked me into Queanbeyan where he had VMO rights. So off I went and had the op with no problems – and this was the old hospital. (Laughably just after my op there was a big spread in the CT that the particular operation I was having had only a three month wait.) If it wasn’t for Qbn hospital I would have waited over twelve months.

If they had told me when I was waiting six weeks for a cancer operation (apparently that was elective surgery too) that I could have gone to Qbn to have it done earlier I would have jumped at the chance. Frankly, when you are desperate for surgery you could not care less if it is done in a car park as long as it gets done.

I went to the new hospital when I ruptured the ligaments in my ankle. It is a very nice facility and seems to have all the bits and pieces one would require in a hospital.

I really hope I never have to use them again though as I am really over having bits cut out of me.

#9
georgesgenitals4:23 pm, 10 Feb 11

BearBuns said :

I was on the waiting list at TCH for an operation for nine months before my surgeon finally gave up and booked me into Queanbeyan where he had VMO rights. So off I went and had the op with no problems – and this was the old hospital. (Laughably just after my op there was a big spread in the CT that the particular operation I was having had only a three month wait.) If it wasn’t for Qbn hospital I would have waited over twelve months.

If they had told me when I was waiting six weeks for a cancer operation (apparently that was elective surgery too) that I could have gone to Qbn to have it done earlier I would have jumped at the chance. Frankly, when you are desperate for surgery you could not care less if it is done in a car park as long as it gets done.

I went to the new hospital when I ruptured the ligaments in my ankle. It is a very nice facility and seems to have all the bits and pieces one would require in a hospital.

I really hope I never have to use them again though as I am really over having bits cut out of me.

Shhhhh! Most Canberrans don’t know how good our hospital is!

#10
JustThinking4:27 pm, 10 Feb 11

That is great to hear BearBuns,
I think in this issue what people should really look into is “what is classified as elective surgery?” and “how long is the waiting list?”
Most think of “elective surgery” as having a nose job and not something painful or potentially life threatening. Others think it will be a 3 month wait as “splashed” in the media.

#11
BearBuns4:45 pm, 10 Feb 11

From what I understand of ‘elective’ surgery it is anything that doesn’t require immediate assistance to reattach parts falling off you whilst shedding copious quantities of blood. Which means that yes, removal of a malignant tumour is classified the same as a nose job (ie elective), only slightly more urgent if you are lucky. Though what their definition of ‘urgent’ is I am yet to figure out.

After waiting 5 1/2 hours for the tumour removal the first time I was called up for surgery (after a three week wait), I was told it wasn’t going ahead that day (I got a bit upset at this point and the Registrar wanted to know why I was so upset as it wasn’t a very serious cancer – you try it b!tch!!) then they told me that they would put me down for priority surgery. Next available date was three weeks away. That apparently falls within the definition of urgent.

Ooops, sorry georgesgenitals, didn’t mean to blab! Obviously though this has been a major sore point with me for a few years!

#12
Pork Hunt4:46 pm, 10 Feb 11

FFS health should be a federal government responsibility then these petty little empire games wouldn’t happen.

#13
gingermick5:03 pm, 10 Feb 11

BTW, does anyone know why the proposed Queanbeyan Hospital Renal Dialysis Unit appears to have gone belly-up? It is desperately needed and will provide relief to the overcrowded ACT units.

#14
JustThinking5:30 pm, 10 Feb 11

gingermick said :

BTW, does anyone know why the proposed Queanbeyan Hospital Renal Dialysis Unit appears to have gone belly-up? It is desperately needed and will provide relief to the overcrowded ACT units.

Probably lack of staff,,,,,again.
The Hospital itself has been belly up a few times,,,,,so alot do not want to chance taking a job and moving here if it goes belly up again.
Nurses are already Aussie over screaming for better pay/conditions, let alone taking a job with belly up issues in the past..

pork hunt “”FFS health should be a federal government responsibility then these petty little empire games wouldn’t happen.”"
Agreed.

BearBuns,,,I have had 2 tumors removed,,,,,both instant. One at Coonabarabran 2 days after they found it and 1 in Queanbeyan within the week….WHY places like Coonabarabran can have this done soo quick while ACT people wait it beyond me. Probably no waiting list….

#15
homeone11:03 pm, 10 Feb 11

I suspect the renal unit @ Queanbeyan is a bridge too far for ‘Steve’.

He’d have to explain either to Cooma people OR Queanbeyan people why they didn’t it.

#16
I-filed1:17 am, 11 Feb 11

JustThinking said :

Queanbeyan Hospital for many many years has just been used a nursing home for the elderly or a “break” for the Mental Health clients.
Most other medical issues were sent to WVH, which only increased the problems for the ACT.

.

Queanbeyan never stopped doing operations. My cousin had a keyhole op at Queanbeyan hospital three years ago. Excellent ACT surgeon, and a wait of six weeks instead of a year. Also, an advantage to using smaller hospitals apparently is that they have fewer superbugs and can in fact be safer than the large hospitals. Cousin gave glowing reports about the nursing care at QBN Hospital, but apparently the anaesthetist wasn’t too good.

#17
cleo2:03 am, 11 Feb 11

Get in quicker in Sydney, I’m still waiting for pain management in Canberra, I’m told it’s 6 months wait.

#18
dvaey9:54 am, 11 Feb 11

JustThinking said :

BearBuns,,,I have had 2 tumors removed,,,,,both instant. One at Coonabarabran 2 days after they found it and 1 in Queanbeyan within the week….WHY places like Coonabarabran can have this done soo quick while ACT people wait it beyond me. Probably no waiting list….

I had an elective orthopedic procedure done last year, and was advised similarly. I finally had it done mid last year after just under 12 months wait), but was told that if I was prepared to travel to Coonabarabran or Bowral, the procedure could basically be done to my schedule rather than the waiting list schedule. For some patients, this could be a viable option, however travelling too far is a problem if youre admitted for a while (even a few days) and family and visitors may have to travel so far.

Hopefully my surgeon is aware of this, as Im currently on the waiting list again, and after 6 months so far I havent even heard from ACT health with regards to my position on the list. Im expecting to wait over 12 months for the 2nd surgery, even though my surgeon advised that as my procedure is only half finished, I would receive higher priority on the waiting list system.

#19
BearBuns10:39 am, 11 Feb 11

Fact is the ACT Public Health System is an absolute disgrace despite what Katy Gallagher says. How we can have a system that is so poorly managed is disgusting but to have the Health Minister continually insulting our intelligence by stating that it is improving is beyond words!

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