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ESA says you don’t have to mow the lawn today

By 18 January 2014 16

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The ACT Emergency Services Agency (ESA) urges the community to be sensible while outdoors today while a TOTAL FIRE BAN is in place.

The use of power tools and outdoor machinery that can create a spark, such as angle grinders and lawn mowers, should be avoided today.

Gas and electric BBQ’s can be used today but only if the immediate area around the BBQ is clear of any flammable material, there is a steady water supply available and a responsible adult is present.

Motorists are strongly urged to avoid pulling over on roadside areas where there is long grass. A hot exhaust can easily ignite a fire during today’s conditions. Smokers must also dispose of their cigarette butts inside their vehicles. Failing to do so is a criminal offence and can lead to significant penalties.

Anyone who comes across a fire or smoke without the presence of firefighters should immediately ring Emergency Triple Zero (000).

9:57am

[Courtesy ESA]

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16 Responses to ESA says you don’t have to mow the lawn today
#1
gooterz10:46 am, 18 Jan 14

Firebugs will be sprayed with bugspray

#2
shauno11:10 am, 18 Jan 14

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

#3
Deref1:26 pm, 18 Jan 14

gooterz said :

Firebugs will be sprayed with bugspray

It’s more effective if you inject them with it. Preferably with several cans, still in the can, PR.

#4
IrishPete1:39 pm, 18 Jan 14

shauno said :

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

Having dealt with numerous fires started by people doing stupid things, I’m happy to see government advice like this.

if your point is that this advice is not effective, then that’s another matter – it may not be, because when people do start fires through taking unnecessary risks, they rarely suffer any consequences. The repeat “offenders” know this.

IP

#5
Growling Ferret5:45 pm, 18 Jan 14

And Gungahlin misses out on any rain again.

#6
Queen_of_the_Bun6:02 pm, 18 Jan 14

shauno said :

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

I did not know that pulling over in long grass could potentially start a fire. So I appreciate the information.

#7
shauno6:11 pm, 18 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

shauno said :

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

I did not know that pulling over in long grass could potentially start a fire. So I appreciate the information.

Point taken

#8
gooterz12:10 am, 19 Jan 14

Growling Ferret said :

And Gungahlin misses out on any rain again.

Don’t worry you’ll get some light rail on that lawn soon.

Seriously though, the valley is like the rain centre of Canberra. If you expect as much rain elsewhere your dreaming.

#9
IrishPete10:19 am, 19 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

shauno said :

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

I did not know that pulling over in long grass could potentially start a fire. So I appreciate the information.

My turn to be an unsympathetic critic. I find this lack of knowledge really concerning. Are there other people out there who “don’t know that a cigarette butt can start a fire?”

Hot things cause fires when they come into contact with flammable things.

We shouldn’t have to issue a list of hot things and flammable things every summer.

People don’t necessarily know that mowers hit stones which causes sparks which ignite grass. Mowers have to be on grass, but they are designed so their hot engine parts aren’t in contact with it. Nor do you need a licence to drive a lawnmower.

So while I support these regular reminders, especially for tourists and new arrivals in Australia, they are no replacement for common sense.

Parking in long grass is probably asking to encounter a snake too.

IP

#10
Queen_of_the_Bun5:21 pm, 19 Jan 14

IrishPete said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

shauno said :

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

I did not know that pulling over in long grass could potentially start a fire. So I appreciate the information.

My turn to be an unsympathetic critic. I find this lack of knowledge really concerning. Are there other people out there who “don’t know that a cigarette butt can start a fire?”

Hot things cause fires when they come into contact with flammable things.

We shouldn’t have to issue a list of hot things and flammable things every summer.

People don’t necessarily know that mowers hit stones which causes sparks which ignite grass. Mowers have to be on grass, but they are designed so their hot engine parts aren’t in contact with it. Nor do you need a licence to drive a lawnmower.

So while I support these regular reminders, especially for tourists and new arrivals in Australia, they are no replacement for common sense.

Parking in long grass is probably asking to encounter a snake too.

IP

So sorry that my life experiences don’t match yours IP. I have always lived in cities. I drive a small hatchback. I don’t often have to pull over in long grass. So a warning from the government that this may start a fire is relevant for me.

PS I don’t smoke so I don’t know what your first point is about. Other than I’m starting to agree with the general consensus that you’re a bit of a knob.

#11
IrishPete6:12 pm, 19 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

My turn to be an unsympathetic critic. I find this lack of knowledge really concerning. Are there other people out there who “don’t know that a cigarette butt can start a fire?”

Hot things cause fires when they come into contact with flammable things.

We shouldn’t have to issue a list of hot things and flammable things every summer.

People don’t necessarily know that mowers hit stones which causes sparks which ignite grass. Mowers have to be on grass, but they are designed so their hot engine parts aren’t in contact with it. Nor do you need a licence to drive a lawnmower.

So while I support these regular reminders, especially for tourists and new arrivals in Australia, they are no replacement for common sense.

Parking in long grass is probably asking to encounter a snake too.

IP

So sorry that my life experiences don’t match yours IP. I have always lived in cities. I drive a small hatchback. I don’t often have to pull over in long grass. So a warning from the government that this may start a fire is relevant for me.

PS I don’t smoke so I don’t know what your first point is about. Other than I’m starting to agree with the general consensus that you’re a bit of a knob.

Whether I’m a knob or not, I am the knob who for no pay puts out the fires that are mainly caused by deliberate or negligent human activity. If my knowledge is the result of life experience, it’s though making the effort to learn about the important stuff.

My point about cigarette butts is that if, for example, the person who started the grassfire at the Sydney aquatic centre where dozens of cars were destroyed, says in their defence “but I didn’t know cigarettes could start fires”, you probably wouldn’t give them much sympathy. So does “I didn’t know a car exhaust/engine too hot to touch could cause a fire when I stick it in the middle of grass” deserve much sympathy?

The size/nature of the car is so irrelevant I actually have no idea why you said it. Living in cities is not relevant in Oz, as there are plenty of grass and bush fires in Oz cities.

I repeat – hot things + flammable things = fire. This probably should be taught in school (it certainly was in my school; what are people taught in Australian schools?), and perhaps some questions asked in the citizenship test about bushfire (which is after all, an Australian icon like Surf Life Savers) and rips and whatever, instead of useless questions about Phar Lap and Don Bradman.

IP

#12
BimboGeek2:59 am, 20 Jan 14

IP, I agree with your argument but I think on the prevention side, more is more. I would happily compile a list of things that are hot and things that were flammable and even read it live on News24 and Sky if it made the tiniest impact on anyone’s self-taught ignorance or learned helplessness.

#13
Queen_of_the_Bun8:27 am, 20 Jan 14

IrishPete said :

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

My turn to be an unsympathetic critic. I find this lack of knowledge really concerning. Are there other people out there who “don’t know that a cigarette butt can start a fire?”

Hot things cause fires when they come into contact with flammable things.

We shouldn’t have to issue a list of hot things and flammable things every summer.

People don’t necessarily know that mowers hit stones which causes sparks which ignite grass. Mowers have to be on grass, but they are designed so their hot engine parts aren’t in contact with it. Nor do you need a licence to drive a lawnmower.

So while I support these regular reminders, especially for tourists and new arrivals in Australia, they are no replacement for common sense.

Parking in long grass is probably asking to encounter a snake too.

IP

So sorry that my life experiences don’t match yours IP. I have always lived in cities. I drive a small hatchback. I don’t often have to pull over in long grass. So a warning from the government that this may start a fire is relevant for me.

PS I don’t smoke so I don’t know what your first point is about. Other than I’m starting to agree with the general consensus that you’re a bit of a knob.

Whether I’m a knob or not, I am the knob who for no pay puts out the fires that are mainly caused by deliberate or negligent human activity. If my knowledge is the result of life experience, it’s though making the effort to learn about the important stuff.

My point about cigarette butts is that if, for example, the person who started the grassfire at the Sydney aquatic centre where dozens of cars were destroyed, says in their defence “but I didn’t know cigarettes could start fires”, you probably wouldn’t give them much sympathy. So does “I didn’t know a car exhaust/engine too hot to touch could cause a fire when I stick it in the middle of grass” deserve much sympathy?

The size/nature of the car is so irrelevant I actually have no idea why you said it. Living in cities is not relevant in Oz, as there are plenty of grass and bush fires in Oz cities.

I repeat – hot things + flammable things = fire. This probably should be taught in school (it certainly was in my school; what are people taught in Australian schools?), and perhaps some questions asked in the citizenship test about bushfire (which is after all, an Australian icon like Surf Life Savers) and rips and whatever, instead of useless questions about Phar Lap and Don Bradman.

IP

Sheesh, IP. I think Christopher Pyne has the revision of the school curriculum in hand.

Whether you like it or not, we all retain information that we see as critical to our daily lives and forget other data. I cannot remember the last time I pulled over onto a grassed area. It’s not something that I need to do, which is fortunate as apparently I could have been starting bushfires all over the place.

Surely a more appropriate and less knobby reaction to someone saying that they didn’t know something that was in government advice would be to welcome the government’s move to issue the advice, not denigrate the person admitting their ignorance.

It’s not as if I’m driving out to Captains Flat on dry days, pulling over into long grass to throw my cigarette out the window.

Sorry that including information about the type of car I drive perplexed you. I was attempting to convey that I drive neither a 4WD, therefore going off road and into grassy areas, or a low-to-the-ground sports car with the body closer to the grass, nor a white Commodore in which case everyone could assume that I am doing burnouts in grassy areas while chain smoking so I can keep those butts coming.

#14
Queen_of_the_Bun9:08 am, 20 Jan 14

BimboGeek said :

IP, I agree with your argument but I think on the prevention side, more is more. I would happily compile a list of things that are hot and things that were flammable and even read it live on News24 and Sky if it made the tiniest impact on anyone’s self-taught ignorance or learned helplessness.

Yes.

I see lots of warnings that I think are ridiculous. But I am the first to admit that I do not know it all.

What is the problem with reinforcing messages until they sink in with as many people as possible?

#15
poetix10:06 am, 20 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

shauno said :

I really dont know what would happen if we didnt have the government to tell us how to do things. Could we survive? who knows ill contemplate that this arvo over a couple of beers and feeding the magpies.

I did not know that pulling over in long grass could potentially start a fire. So I appreciate the information.

I had not heard that before either.

IP will be appalled by my lack of bush knowledge.

#16
IrishPete10:51 am, 20 Jan 14

Queen_of_the_Bun said :

Sorry that including information about the type of car I drive perplexed you. I was attempting to convey that I drive neither a 4WD, therefore going off road and into grassy areas, or a low-to-the-ground sports car with the body closer to the grass, nor a white Commodore in which case everyone could assume that I am doing burnouts in grassy areas while chain smoking so I can keep those butts coming.

Pulling off the side of the road is usually where this stuff happens. Any road, anywhere, that has a grassy verge and that’s most roads outside of the really densely populated cities. Modern cars have catalytic converters which get very hot. Not sure it’s so much of an issue with older cars. 4wd (proper off-roading ones, but even pretend ones) tend to be higher off the ground, so less chance of contact between exhaust and hot grass. They also tend to be diesel, so different risks. (Someone else will have to tell me if diesels have a Cat. – I don’t know, I just say off grass).

Point taken about the list of risks, but if the list gets too long and includes thing people should already know, then it won’t be effective. It should only include the surprising stuff. Eskimos shouldn’t have to be reminded not to eat yellow snow.

Christopher Pyne won’t include anything in the curriculum that might give an opportunity for a teacher to mention anthropogenic climate change. More God less Science.

It probably applies to my own education too, like playing with magnesium and water and other fun stuff perhaps could have been taught to us in a practical context. I remember being shown lots of periodic tables and molecular diagrams, but I can recall not one instance of how this knowledge could be applied in day to day life. Not even resuscitation skills in biology class. Go figure. But they found lots of room for God and gruesome anti-abortion videos (this to a school of students they had not given sex education to).

IP

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