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Flyballers hard done by at the show?

By 2 March 2009 111

I know when I go to the show it’s the flyballers I always make a beeline for.

But it would seem the people and dogs providing that entertainment aren’t being well looked after. Here’s one blogger’s view of proceedings:

    after a while of scraping through the dirt possum started limping and then we saw that she had scraped the skin off her dew claw pad. poor baby. we taped her up but it didnt help and she ran a lot slower so we lost races we would normally win. we ended up having to pull her out so she wouldnt get hurt worse, and we finished only third when we were pretty sure of a first or second. we did one good time, but if they dont fix that surface for next year i think we wont go. the bad part of the weekend was made worse by the fact that we, the flyballers, were not given parking permits into the exhibitors part of the showground and would have had to pay show rates for parking. this didnt apply to people doing agility, or with the silly show dogs. what is it with the human race, that people always have to JUDGE someone else, and what they do, as not worthy somehow? so we parked out on the street and came back to find a window smashed and the car broken into. we lost important stuff we probly shouldnt have left in the car, and yet again i am left wondering at the complete deadshits human beings can be at times. especially canberra bogans.

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111 Responses to Flyballers hard done by at the show?
#1
Felix the Cat7:28 pm, 02 Mar 09

I’ll wait until the English translation comes out. I have no idea what that person was on about.

#2
bigfeet7:40 pm, 02 Mar 09

I love the flyball and always go to watch it. JB, I also have a kelpie who accomplishes very little. Actually she seems to accomplish much the same as yours in that she recently chewed a USB device.

But I have gone off topic. When I was there Saturday afternoon I heard lots of the flyballers (owners) complaining about the surface. In fact at one stage they made an announcement about an exposed pipe in the middle of the track and just asked if the dogs could be careful. I’m not sure the dogs got the announcement.

#3
Igglepiggle7:51 pm, 02 Mar 09

Is flyball the one where the dogs race in relays to get the tennis ball out of the board after jmuping the hurdles? If so, my toddler loves it! No good if the animals are getting hurt by substandard facilities. Although it seems the whole showground was dry and dusty and I’m not sure there would have been anywhere much better for them.

#4
bigfeet7:53 pm, 02 Mar 09

Igglepiggle said :

Is flyball the one where the dogs race in relays to get the tennis ball out of the board after jmuping the hurdles? .

Yep, thats it.

#5
Bells7:55 pm, 02 Mar 09

That’s from my friend’s blog. did you ask her for the text?

#6
kms8:19 pm, 02 Mar 09

that would be my text and no, no one asked. i stand by my comments but i want to make it clear they are aimed at the show society not the competition organisers (CDC) who try very hard to put on a good comp in difficult circumstances. quite a few dogs were injured because of the surface, which is a real shame as we love doing flyball at the canberra show. last year we were put out on the main oval because it was 10 years of flyball at the show and it was much better there. the other dog sports get much better looked after than flyball for some reason. the rest of the text etc was my personal venting about other stuff that happened this weekend, and i dont want to see people going off about what i said, given the text was used without permission. and just to clarify, i realise there are bogans everywhere. we get lots of ‘em in sydney :)

#7
bigfeet8:26 pm, 02 Mar 09

kms said :

that would be my text and no, no one asked. i stand by my comments but i want to make it clear they are aimed at the show society not the competition organisers (CDC) who try very hard to put on a good comp in difficult circumstances. quite a few dogs were injured because of the surface, which is a real shame as we love doing flyball at the canberra show. last year we were put out on the main oval because it was 10 years of flyball at the show and it was much better there. the other dog sports get much better looked after than flyball for some reason. the rest of the text etc was my personal venting about other stuff that happened this weekend, and i dont want to see people going off about what i said, given the text was used without permission. and just to clarify, i realise there are bogans everywhere. we get lots of ‘em in sydney :)

Do you know what a capital letter is? Try using one to start each of your sentences. Then maybe people will actually understand what you are trying to say.

#8
gomer8:50 pm, 02 Mar 09

maybe the show organisers are cat people. the cats got a nice quiet spot in the rooms under the main grandstand.

#9
anon19729:01 pm, 02 Mar 09

May have been quiet under the grandstand but try and tell a Bengal that the Zipper he can see out the window while being judged isn’t a giant cat toy!

#10
astrojax9:04 pm, 02 Mar 09

oi, sasquatch, stop pickin’ on my e.e. cummings buddy…

i dunno if it is the lack of capitals that made it hard to follow; not that i found it that hard to follow. a bit stream of consciousness, and took a few things for granted – like the reader might know what flyball is, but it was lifted out of its original context.

PERSONALLY I FIND READING ALL CAPITALS MUCH HARDER TO COPE WITH ESPECIALLY WHEN CO-MINGLED WITH UTTER NONSENSE OR A SPRAY AND USUALLY BAD GRAMMAR AND SPELLING BUT I DUNNO WHAT DO YOU FIND WORSE CAPITALS ALL THE WAY OR NOTHING AT ALL NO CAPITALS JUST PLAIN TEXT THAT MEBBE TAKES A BIT OF READING INTO IF IT HAS BEEN LIFTED FROM ORIGINAL SOURCE?

chill out.

#11
Tempestas9:17 pm, 02 Mar 09

bigfeet said :

Do you know what a capital letter is? Try using one to start each of your sentences. Then maybe people will actually understand what you are trying to say.

Dude it was not that hard to read. I think lacking capital letters is the least of your worries on this site.

#12
GardeningGirl10:11 pm, 02 Mar 09

Oh, I love the flyball dogs. I’m sorry the dogs were getting hurt by the poor surface. What’s the situation at EPIC with water? The roofs of those pavillions would collect a lot of water, or is it already used elsewhere on the site? I’m not a huge fan of synthetic grass but maybe for this purpose it’s the ideal solution. Can it be rolled up when not in use?
I’m sorry about the car too :-(
(Btw I didn’t find it that hard to read either.)

#13
threepaws10:22 pm, 02 Mar 09

Bells said :

That’s from my friend’s blog. did you ask her for the text?

No. The World Wide Web provided her text with a magic password. ‘Ctrl C, Ctrl V’

#14
johnboy10:31 pm, 02 Mar 09

Bells said :

That’s from my friend’s blog. did you ask her for the text?

Fair use.

#15
poptop10:53 pm, 02 Mar 09

For those of a less journalistic bent, this means:
The “fair dealing” exceptions to copywrite infringement
There is no general exception for using copyright material simply because you think it is fair or because you are not making a profit. The copyright act allows you to use copyright material without permission if your use is a “fair dealing” for one of the following purposes:
• research or study;
• criticism or review;
• parody or satire;
• reporting news; or
• professional advice by a lawyer, patent attorney or trade marks attorney.

#16
PsydFX11:22 pm, 02 Mar 09

poptop said :

For those of a less journalistic bent, this means:
The “fair dealing” exceptions to copywrite infringement
There is no general exception for using copyright material simply because you think it is fair or because you are not making a profit. The copyright act allows you to use copyright material without permission if your use is a “fair dealing” for one of the following purposes:
• research or study;
• criticism or review;
• parody or satire;
• reporting news; or
• professional advice by a lawyer, patent attorney or trade marks attorney.

I notice you’ve left out the part that states that the author and source of the material must be acknowledged.

#17
johnboy11:24 pm, 02 Mar 09

Which they have been.

#18
PsydFX11:27 pm, 02 Mar 09

johnboy said :

Which they have been.

Really? Where? I couldn’t find the usual hyperlink in the in the post.

#19
johnboy11:31 pm, 02 Mar 09

Correct, a mistake.

Fixed now.

Working far too hard.

#20
GuruJ11:31 pm, 02 Mar 09

Really, johnboy? Where?

I can’t see any way to get from the article to the original blog post, surely the minimum standard acknowledgment for a website like this.

#21
poptop11:34 pm, 02 Mar 09

I checked. You’re right! My bad.

In the spirit of compliance, I must at this time disclose the info is drawn from the Fair Dealing Info Sheet available on the copywrite.org.au site.

#22
kms7:33 am, 03 Mar 09

all technical niceties about copyright aside, it would have been nice to be asked. i dont have many readers of my blog and i am happy about that, and i dont write what i write (in whatever grammatical form) to be ripped to shreds by people with nothing better to do with their time. maybe its one of those public service things, where you look at the form rather than the content. the intent of the original ctrlc ctrl v was not to start a debate about grammar etc but rather to raise a valid point about the way in which exhibitors at the show (who do not get paid), are treated, with some being looked after and others not. focus, people.

#23
Gobbo8:35 am, 03 Mar 09

Naturally it was Canberra Bogans. You can tell by the way they break and enter.

Interstate bogans do it differently.

#24
ebony578:46 am, 03 Mar 09

I’m surprised that parking on the street didn’t result in a parking ticket.

Now, I don’t think it’s fair that some entrant groups get parking permits and some don’t, but is $5 a day too much to pay for parking?

#25
kms9:08 am, 03 Mar 09

OH MY GOD (see, i can use caps). you people are amazing. not only was content lifted off my blog with no permission and no credit, and OUT OF CONTEXT, but some of you think its ok to continue to MISS THE POINT. i am pretty damn pissed at johnboy right now for starting this whole thing, but his orignal point is that the DOGS GOT INJURED. do ANY of you think thats ok? they got injured because the show society wont water the ground they are meant to run on, and dont tell us before we get there that its basically a dirt goat track. meanwhile show dogs prance around on perfectly manicured turf. i had a rant about my car being broken into as well, while it was LEGALLY parked on a side street. i didnt ask anyone to put that on here for you all to have a go at, and do you think you would have been happy about it, after you drove 400ks to watch your dog get hurt????

#26
johnboy9:14 am, 03 Mar 09

kms, once again I would like to apologise for, in error, not linking to the source.

Having said that if you don’t want the general public reading your words the open internet is an unwise place to put them. There is no obligation to seek permission in advance.

Apologies again for missing the link for a few hours.

#27
Gobbo9:17 am, 03 Mar 09

Usually taking skin off a dew claw pad doesn’t happen by running over rough ground as the dew claw pad isn’t usually in contact with the ground. It usually happens when the dog doesn’t take a jump properly.

Did Possum miss a jump to damage herself?

Oh and the show dogs are prancing on the ground that is lease by the ACT Canine Association. The club maintains the yard. Tou seem to have a problem with that?

Perhaps the Canberra chapter of flyballers should approach EPIC about permanently leasing a piece of ground for it to keep in as good a nick as the show doggie people do. It won’t come cheap though.

#28
GardeningGirl9:19 am, 03 Mar 09

I didn’t think my earlier post sounded at all like I thought dogs getting injured is ok.

#29
kms9:20 am, 03 Mar 09

i dont care if the general public read what i write, i am well aware of the internet being you know, WORLD WIDE, but i have set up my blog in such a way that i dont have to read drivel comments from people i dont know. you took that control from me when you cut and pasted here. there might be no LEGAL OBLIGATION johnboy but there is such a thing as common courtesy. being a riotact overlord doesnt put you beyond needing to ASK just because its the right thing to do.

#30
johnboy9:25 am, 03 Mar 09

We’ll have to agree to disagree on what is the right thing to do here kms.

Others do the same to our material all the time and we have no issue with it as long as it is properly credited.

I’ve replied to your email, I’ll ask that we continue discussion of that issue there.

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