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Graffiti police to hit the Civic and Braddon streets

By johnboy - 1 December 2011 24

civic graf

Word reaches us that Canberra CBD Limited is planning to commission security patrols to deter graffiti in their target area of Civic and Braddon.

They had this to say on the subject:

Nothing specific as yet. We are currently finalising the locations but can confirm that Braddon will be a particular target. We have the support of building owners, managers and tenants in Lonsdale and Mort Streets.

Apparently Leader Security will be providing dog patrols.

A good idea? Or something ACT Policing should be doing?

Workexpboy went out at lunchtime to get a feel for the scope of the problem, he returned complaining that most of the tagging was old and faded, but got some good shots.

What’s Your opinion?


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24 Responses to
Graffiti police to hit the Civic and Braddon streets
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DUB 12:32 pm
01 Dec 11
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There was a report on that topic last night, WIN local news.
They are going to use guards with dogs, apparently, they did a little trial, and made over 100 arrests.
I think it’s a good idea, let police instead to concentrate on more serious offences and crimes.
Tagging looks ugly, I don’t mind a bit of really well done picture graffiti, Woden storm water drains (the ones that run behind the Woden Police station ) have a few good ones.But majority-rubbish.

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Henry82 1:24 pm
01 Dec 11
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DUB said :

and made over 100 arrests.

jesus! how many taggers are there?

I always assumed it would be very difficult to catch taggers, particularly since its a thoroughfare. Although, they don’t seem too intelligent to begin with, perhaps you just ask them and they admit it.

“Are you a tagger?” “yes.. oh sh.. i mean no”

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Jungle Jim 1:37 pm
01 Dec 11
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The tall tag that I think says “style” is around Dickson too. Actually, now that I think about it, I reckon there’s more ugly tagging and random graffiti around Dickson than Braddon.

Hopefully the trial is a success and private security can be utilised this way in other areas. As long as they’re more like “Springshield” rather than Homer’s neighbourhood watch vigilante gang, it could be a useful community service.

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p1 1:39 pm
01 Dec 11
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Do guards and dogs have the legal ability to detain you for graffiti something?

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Mang 2:00 pm
01 Dec 11
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from the photos, it looks like the taggers have it out for DEEWR heh

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devils_advocate 3:33 pm
01 Dec 11
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p1 said :

Do guards and dogs have the legal ability to detain you for graffiti something?

Or the physical ability? If you can’t outrun a mall cop time to have a long hard look at yourself.

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Spykler 6:02 pm
01 Dec 11
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DUB said :

There was a report on that topic last night, WIN local news.
They are going to use guards with dogs, apparently, they did a little trial, and made over 100 arrests.
I think it’s a good idea, let police instead to concentrate on more serious offences and crimes.
Tagging looks ugly, I don’t mind a bit of really well done picture graffiti, Woden storm water drains (the ones that run behind the Woden Police station ) have a few good ones.But majority-rubbish.

+1 – Tagging is a nuisance and desecrates a lot of our public spaces, hopefully one of the guards ‘accidentally’ loses control of his German shepherd and the dog has a a chew on one of the taggers heads.

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Jivrashia 10:55 pm
01 Dec 11
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These Graffiti-artist claim that they are ARTISTS..

And yet I saw an art (albeit it is just a penguin, with LGB as the background) on a traffic light circuit (a cyan box near the traffic light) spray painted over with a graffiti.

If they have no respect for other artists then what are they??

ATTENTION WHORES?

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milkman 7:57 am
02 Dec 11
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Tagging is not art. It’s pure bogan d***headerry.

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Myles Peterson 10:17 am
02 Dec 11
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Don’t like this at all.

Privatised law enforcement to patrol privatised civic … Just another reason to shop online.

Hope the first kid to get assaulted/falsely imprisoned sues the pants off Canberra CBD.

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Deref 11:31 am
02 Dec 11
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milkman said :

Tagging is not art. It’s pure bogan d***headerry.

+1

Sadly, until they make the penalties much more severe the problem will remain. Give ’em 6 months of supervised graffiti cleanup at their own expense for the first offence and things might change.

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TheDancingDjinn 11:42 am
02 Dec 11
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Myles Peterson said :

Don’t like this at all.

Privatised law enforcement to patrol privatised civic … Just another reason to shop online.

Hope the first kid to get assaulted/falsely imprisoned sues the pants off Canberra CBD.

But i bet you’d be the first to complain about not having security there when one of them little turds wants your iphone. We cannot expect police to do everything – they are not superhuman, sometimes other things are important. But to complain about security and then to go on and refer to the kid destroying property as a poor victim who will be held against their will? – don’t spary paint other peoples shit and your chances of getting injured by a huge tongan security guard drops drastically. If i caught one of my kids spray painting anything i’d superglue their hands together.

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Postalgeek 11:46 am
02 Dec 11
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I think the real question is does the time taken for a part of a graffiti artist to pass through the digestive tract of a security dog count as detention; if so, do private security firms have the right to detain that part of the graffiti artist; and is that period of detention taken into account during sentencing?

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buzz819 11:53 am
02 Dec 11
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Myles Peterson said :

Don’t like this at all.

Privatised law enforcement to patrol privatised civic … Just another reason to shop online.

Hope the first kid to get assaulted/falsely imprisoned sues the pants off Canberra CBD.

What’s the difference between this and security firms in construction sites, bouncers at night clubs, at shopping centres, hotels, work places etc?

There are a lot of ways that a graffiti problem can be removed, paints that are graffiti proof, the right type of paint colour that people don’t like to graffiti, appropriate lighting and rapid removal (this would be the most effective type of prevention, but would cost more to start off with).

What powers do they have to arrest someone?

Section 218 Crimes Act 1900;
218 Power of arrest without warrant by other persons
(1) A person who is not a police officer may, without warrant, arrest
another person if he or she believes on reasonable grounds that the
other person is committing or has just committed an offence.
(2) A person who arrests another person under subsection (1) shall, as
soon as practicable after the arrest, arrange for the other person, and
any property found on the other person, to be delivered into the
custody of a police officer.

Of course using the reasonable amount of force when making the arrest.

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Deref 12:01 pm
02 Dec 11
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Postalgeek said :

I think the real question is does the time taken for a part of a graffiti artist to pass through the digestive tract of a security dog count as detention; if so, do private security firms have the right to detain that part of the graffiti artist; and is that period of detention taken into account during sentencing?

At least they’d come out a better person at the other end.

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