30 May 2011

Greens demand public housing be maintained in Northbourne redevelopment

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The Greens’ Amanda Bresnan has announced that she’s generally in favour of Joy Burch’s design competition and plan to knock down the horrible Northbourne flats and try again.

But she does want the public housing numbers to be maintained.

“This is a great opportunity to reinvigorate public housing and increase density along a key transit route, Northbourne Avenue,” Ms Bresnan said.

“A design competition is a good approach. The Greens advocated for a design competition to reinvigorate public housing in the Inner-North in a 2009 motion in the Assembly.

“I do however want the Government to guarantee that the number of public housing dwellings there will remain, and that it is integrated with the new housing constructed.

“The proposed redevelopment of the Allawah, Bega and Currong flats, will see a diminished number of public housing dwellings on that site.* The community will lose out further if the same happens with Northbourne Flats.

“It’s important as we develop and increase density around the city, and that the Government continues to own inner-city public housing stock.

“The Government must use this opportunity to reinvigorate the area and design a mixed community which incorporates social inclusion and sustainability.

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Amanda Brensan, I hope the government do let the govie people remain, if that’s what they want, I certainly don’t want to move further out, although I’m not in the Northbourne flats, we have heard whispers that further up from Northbourne, that those flats will be torn down in years to come, some were only built 15 years ago, and some were re-gutted, not sure when, all rumours at the moment.

Some of those guvvies look like cr*p from the outside, but I’ve been in one of the townhouse type ones on the left heading into civic, and it’s a fantastic design on three levels with two bedrooms (one huge), two balconies, separate laundry on the ground floor, and front and back garden. The only drawback is the noise – and dodgy neighbours. There’s no way any redevelopment would be the same space or quality in a two-beddie.

I think it’s a great idea.

Northbourne Avenue isn’t nearly congested enough during peak hours. This will undoubtedly help.

High density housing along the transport corridor of Northbourne Avenue sounds like a good idea to help reduce the heavy traffic load in recent years, and would work well with the available public transport.

There should also be a mix of public housing units in the new buildings, otherwise we will run the risk they will become exclusive ghettoes occupied only by the socially advantaged and rich of Canberra.

LeatherJen said :

Keijidosha said :

LeatherJen said :

So why can’t we simply offer development conditions that include the provision of property for use as public housing in other areas of Canberra? Engagement with industry and research would allow the government to gauge the point at which development becomes unviable.

Sensible, but unlikely to happen as long as the Government is in a position to throw cheap land at developers with reckless abandon.

I guess I had the idealistic idea of trying to tune the property market by having inner city developments as a bit more expensive whilst selling outer ‘burbs land for a bit less to compensate, thus reducing price pressures in outer suburbs.

Never mind.

Don’t worry – it makes sense. Well, to me anyway!

Yes, yes public housing for everybody.
Can’t afford inner city living?
Don’t worry the Greens are here to make sure you get your own brand new apartment just minutes from the city centre.

Keijidosha said :

LeatherJen said :

So why can’t we simply offer development conditions that include the provision of property for use as public housing in other areas of Canberra? Engagement with industry and research would allow the government to gauge the point at which development becomes unviable.

Sensible, but unlikely to happen as long as the Government is in a position to throw cheap land at developers with reckless abandon.

I guess I had the idealistic idea of trying to tune the property market by having inner city developments as a bit more expensive whilst selling outer ‘burbs land for a bit less to compensate, thus reducing price pressures in outer suburbs.

Never mind.

nice lush brand new public housing right next to the city.

why would you ever want to even try to pay rent in the burbs?

LeatherJen said :

So why can’t we simply offer development conditions that include the provision of property for use as public housing in other areas of Canberra? Engagement with industry and research would allow the government to gauge the point at which development becomes unviable.

Sensible, but unlikely to happen as long as the Government is in a position to throw cheap land at developers with reckless abandon.

LeatherJen said :

So why can’t we simply offer development conditions that include the provision of property for use as public housing in other areas of Canberra? Engagement with industry and research would allow the government to gauge the point at which development becomes unviable.

In a city where public housing is under pressure, we can’t simply remove existing stock without having replacements.

I agree with you – totally!

So why can’t we simply offer development conditions that include the provision of property for use as public housing in other areas of Canberra? Engagement with industry and research would allow the government to gauge the point at which development becomes unviable.

In a city where public housing is under pressure, we can’t simply remove existing stock without having replacements.

ScienceRules2:45 pm 30 May 11

Isn’t that why we invented Queenbeyan?

Jim Jones said :

The Frots said :

what_the said :

You object to public housing? Reckon they should be on the streets instead? I’m not sure if you realise they’re saying knock the dodgy flats down, but provide the same number of public housing?

Oh I understand…………………and I did read it (reading and understanding can be two different things sometimes). I don’t think there should be public housing along that corridor into the Canberra City area at all – in fact, rather than housing at all, perhaps some office blocks, buildings, et al, that provide some ambience to entering Canberra.

And no, I am not saying get rid of public housing……………..just make the entrance into Canberra a bit more ‘asthetic’.

And the gold medal for backpedalling goes to …

And where do you get that from what I said Jimbo………………….?

Without public housing, where would all the elected Greens live?

The Frots said :

what_the said :

You object to public housing? Reckon they should be on the streets instead? I’m not sure if you realise they’re saying knock the dodgy flats down, but provide the same number of public housing?

Oh I understand…………………and I did read it (reading and understanding can be two different things sometimes). I don’t think there should be public housing along that corridor into the Canberra City area at all – in fact, rather than housing at all, perhaps some office blocks, buildings, et al, that provide some ambience to entering Canberra.

And no, I am not saying get rid of public housing……………..just make the entrance into Canberra a bit more ‘asthetic’.

And the gold medal for backpedalling goes to …

what_the said :

You object to public housing? Reckon they should be on the streets instead? I’m not sure if you realise they’re saying knock the dodgy flats down, but provide the same number of public housing?

Oh I understand…………………and I did read it (reading and understanding can be two different things sometimes). I don’t think there should be public housing along that corridor into the Canberra City area at all – in fact, rather than housing at all, perhaps some office blocks, buildings, et al, that provide some ambience to entering Canberra.

And no, I am not saying get rid of public housing……………..just make the entrance into Canberra a bit more ‘asthetic’.

You object to public housing? Reckon they should be on the streets instead? I’m not sure if you realise they’re saying knock the dodgy flats down, but provide the same number of public housing?

Ahhh……the Greens. Of course they do!

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