12 April 2011

Gungahlin Planning?

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This in from Sir Pompously:

Snapped this image today of a new safe crossing point in Gungahlin. As usual, the fantastic planning of Gungahlin comes out to shine. Instead of removing the tree, they have left it there, meaning there is no path to kurb connection, and if you wanted to use the crossing point you need to walk through foliage and move it out of the way so you can see if any cars are coming. Would hate to be blind aswell, using those tactiles would be a P in the A when you get smacked in the face by branches when you reach this side of the road.

Have to say, most of Gungahlin is similar with no curb to footpath connections, no foot path at all, no bus stop to foot path connection, no bus stop pads, half built bus stop pads (Only for the seat, but to get to the seat you need to walk over dirt, and then to get to the bus you need to do the same). This takes it up a notch by not removing an obstruction.

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Sir Pompously10:42 pm 13 Apr 11

LMR said :

(Only for the seat, but to get to the seat you need to walk over dirt, and then to get to the bus you need to do the same).

Oh the inhumanity of it! Imagine having to walk over dirt, dirt of all things! This is outrageous!

I wonder if in Sir Pompously’s world pram crossings, footpaths and tree removal all happen, magically, at the exact same time?

Construction happens in stages, the path will come, maybe.

Construction may happen in stages, I will admit that never is a stage for some projects that get started in Gungahlin. Step one in this case would be to remove the tree if you are constructing a safe crossing point and path in this area. You don’t build the damn thing first and then worry about the tree (Or if possible, don’t build one where a tree is planted when there is room next to it if it can be avoided). Also, if you look at Gungahlin and its mess of pedestrian planning (Don’t get me started on the “planning” of roads out there), paths here and there half completed. I am not sure if you have ever been to Gungahlin, but head over there sometime and then go back years later. None of these smaller projects by the Government or contractors actually gets completed, finishing off a path is miniscule to most people, but for a person using the bus stop or the path it is a blessing (Especially in the wet).

Steve_Pedestrian said :

Gungahlin Al said :

[Shakes head in despair…]

Where is it please?

I think it’s right across the road from the new college, near Efkarpidis st?

It is indeed right next to the new college precinct on Gozzard Street.

Just like in this post last year in Belconnen…

http://the-riotact.com/traps-for-the-unwary-in-belconnen/31827

They’ve fixed the gutter so you there’s a ramp but you still have to duck under the tree when you ride up it. (you can just see it in the photo)

Gungahlin planning is an oxymoron!

puggy said :

Is there some special coding in that “ripple pad” to tell the vision impared that they’ve crossed the road AND about to hit a tree?

No, it says you are about to cross a road and you have just hit a tree

Steve_Pedestrian4:58 pm 12 Apr 11

Gungahlin Al said :

[Shakes head in despair…]

Where is it please?

I think it’s right across the road from the new college, near Efkarpidis st?

Is there some special coding in that “ripple pad” to tell the vision impared that they’ve crossed the road AND about to hit a tree?

Gungahlin Al1:17 pm 12 Apr 11

[Shakes head in despair…]

Where is it please?

Must post pics of more stupidity around the new Flemington Rd bus shelters.

Better to shift the concrete thing a few inches and slant the path slightly. Removing trees should be the last resort. They take a long time to grow.

I don’t think there is any planning in Gunghalin, beyond the developers planning how to maximise their profit from their purchase. Tuggeranong looks great in comparison.

artuoui said :

shadow boxer said :

It will be quite nice in a couple of years when the owners do the nature strip and there is a nice tree to stand under waiting to cross the road.

And that will be the time they decide it needs to go.

and the owners do the nature strip……….. “as if”

and the footpath will be cracked from the roots.

and yeah, nothing like crossing the road from behind a tree where the passing traffic is sure to see you.

(Only for the seat, but to get to the seat you need to walk over dirt, and then to get to the bus you need to do the same).

Oh the inhumanity of it! Imagine having to walk over dirt, dirt of all things! This is outrageous!

I wonder if in Sir Pompously’s world pram crossings, footpaths and tree removal all happen, magically, at the exact same time?

Construction happens in stages, the path will come, maybe.

shadow boxer said :

It will be quite nice in a couple of years when the owners do the nature strip and there is a nice tree to stand under waiting to cross the road.

And that will be the time they decide it needs to go.

shadow boxer11:06 am 12 Apr 11

It will be quite nice in a couple of years when the owners do the nature strip and there is a nice tree to stand under waiting to cross the road.

I have to agree with Sir Pompously.

Growing up in Thuggers there was bike/footpaths everywhere that took you anywhere you wanted to go. Gunners is a series of disconnected spurts of footpath with seemingly random placement.

screaming banshee10:17 am 12 Apr 11

I cant decide whether is bus-drivers running a shonky concreting business that refuse to fuel the bus remove the tree, or perhaps tree removal is part of a different tender.

Ooh that just game me a html chuckle

Whinge, whinge, whinge. When I was a boy we didn’t even have roads, let alone footpaths. And let me tell you, the danger of being mowed down by a horse-drawn cart was ever present. And then there was the possibility of stepping in a giant pile of horse crap. Sheesh. Kids these days.

Gold!!! Nice find… this needs to be on a de-motivational poster 😀

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