27 March 2009

Hawker College students (possibly Canberra High) "rampage" through Daramalan?

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I’m hearing that a group of Hawker College (possibly Canberra High) students chose to pay a disruptive visit to Daramalan yesterday.

Anyone got more on this?

Here’s what I have so far:

    Supposedly a large group of hawker college students ran thru dara yesterday dressed in caps and white face/smog masks Armed with bats etc, went on a bit of a rampage and then beat up the kid they were looking for plus a teacher who tried to stop it.

    5 paddy wagons turned up and caught some Others just took off their masks and caps and caught the bus away

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Panhead said :

Firstly, the guy who was the subject of the attack was the one who pulled a knife on one of the lake g/Hawker guys brothers. For no reason in particular, a dog act. Thats not what we do at Dara.

Ever ask the kid why he pulled a knife in the first place, if indeed this actually happened? And Why believe the g/Hawker kids over ‘one of your own’? All sounds very very odd. I just don’t like the fact that you guys are willing to cut one of your own students loose out of school despite chasing others off when they come in to get him. The EMO kid probably needs some friends.

ant said :

There’s a story in today’s papers about the ‘fake cops’ at Sydney airport. MOre of those blokes dressed as police but they’re not police. You see them around Canberra, hanging around gov’t buildings, too. Sounds like the “police insiders” quoted would like to have them looking a bit less like police as they’re embarassing.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25250235-5001021,00.html

Yep, if it was on news.com.au it must be true. Next step ACA.

Goddamn those ‘insiders’, and leopards that can’t change their spots

Firstly, the guy who was the subject of the attack was the one who pulled a knife on one of the lake g/Hawker guys brothers. For no reason in particular, a dog act. Thats not what we do at Dara.

Granny said :

Panhead said :

We dont care who your bashing, they could be the fattest, ugliest, emo kid going round (As was the case in this incident.) Sort him out off school grounds.

How do you sort someone out for being fat and ugly? No wonder the kid is emo.

Look, I respect what you did and what you are doing, but it would be nice if those ideals extended past the school gates.

Spot on Granny. Panhead – how bout you or you ‘mates’ look after the poor kid? Seem that you’re happy for this poor bugger to get a kicking as long as it doesn’t happen at the school. I suggest you get a mirror and have along hard look at yourself.

Deadmandrinking said :

But private schools should be required by law to have onsite security during school hours, public schools too. It’d be for the benefit of all concerned – even the kids showing up to cause a rumble. Years later, they might be thanking the security for not letting them do something that would f-ck up their lives.

Interesting point DMD but one fraught with issues. Would such security have stopped staff at these schools molesting the students (as happened at that very same school as well as Marist)? Would the guard be armed (if so that’s a very, very bad thing – If not he’s a toothless tiger). As a first step the law in the ACT needs to change to ensure kids have the same protections in school as the staff.

Because if you don’t come out of the factory looking, feeling, sounding, even smelling the same they will seek and destroy. No deviation will be tolerated. No difference. No variety. No spice. Everything must be bland, bland, bland. And plastic.

All very ‘Lord of the Flies’.

I think it’s tribalism. The belco people invaded, the Dara people closed ranks and fought them off. And fair enough, too. Thsi stuff is bizarre, can’t they attack the people they want to attack in off-campus places? And why attack them any way?

Panhead said :

We dont care who your bashing, they could be the fattest, ugliest, emo kid going round (As was the case in this incident.) Sort him out off school grounds.

How do you sort someone out for being fat and ugly? No wonder the kid is emo.

Look, I respect what you did and what you are doing, but it would be nice if those ideals extended past the school gates.

Apparently the Lake G guy who got tackled was concussed a little bit. No Daramalan teachers or students were hurt.

That’ll learn them! But what about the reports of injuries?

All right guys all those stories are false. 5 Lake G and Hawker boys with balaclavas jump the fence onto oval and run across the oval. All college boys find out and run out of the year 11/12 quad to meet these boys. Teachers/students surround them and then chase them into the main year 10 quad where on of the hawker/lake g boys was tackled by a Year 11 student and restrained. By this time the teachers had arrived along with everyone else in the school. Another year 11 boy grabbed one of the lake g/hawker guys and pushed him over. Lake g/hawker guys got scared and left. I mean face it, 1500 daramalan kids up against 5 skinny kids. Teachers chased them out onto the street, cops were called.

Daramlan students are sick of people thinking they can just come into the grounds and do what they want. Anymore of this will be met with a vigilante uprising. We dont care who your bashing, they could be the fattest, ugliest, emo kid going round (As was the case in this incident.) Sort him out off school grounds.

This is 100% true story from a Daramalan student who witnessed the whole thing. No exaggeration at all.

The Hawker underpass and sl#t Bomber girlfriends – the memories bring a tear to the eye. There needs to be a webpage memorial to the great Hawker underpass. If only these Hawker kids of today would have spent more time there instead of Daramalan. Then they would have been too wasted to do any rampaging. That’s where today’s youth is going wrong.

Deadmandrinking said :

Yeah, they’d have to be.

Would be a sweet job most of the time. Just sit around and lock up at the end of the day.

Hook up with the female students, sell a bit of weed (and maybe the odd pill) to supplement the income.

Niiiice.

Sounds like a big cost in money and human potential.

Do schools have police panic buttons the way banks and other cash holding organisations do?

Might be cheaper and better.

Deadmandrinking3:37 pm 27 Mar 09

Yeah, they’d have to be.

Would be a sweet job most of the time. Just sit around and lock up at the end of the day.

@DMD#21 all the time?

Deadmandrinking3:18 pm 27 Mar 09

Sorry, I meant ‘hope the situation ends there’.

Deadmandrinking3:15 pm 27 Mar 09

I’d start with high-schools and hope the situation doesn’t end there.

Also, it’s not like they’d be walking around shoving kids in line and stuff, with my suggestion. They’d just be there if a situation with an intruder does occur.

No worries DMD, just being pedantic. 🙂

& yeah…I agree with you somewhat on the security guard thing. Where do we stop though? Should they be in primary schools too? Pre-schools? Day care centres?

There’s a story in today’s papers about the ‘fake cops’ at Sydney airport. MOre of those blokes dressed as police but they’re not police. You see them around Canberra, hanging around gov’t buildings, too. Sounds like the “police insiders” quoted would like to have them looking a bit less like police as they’re embarassing.
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25250235-5001021,00.html

Deadmandrinking3:03 pm 27 Mar 09

Sorry to double post, VY, but yeah, I can see the possible legal problems. But security do have more training in how to deal with intruders than teachers, so that’s a better solution in the stead of having onsite police officers, which I doubt could be afforded.

Deadmandrinking3:02 pm 27 Mar 09

My bad, Justbands, sorry, I should have remembered the name while I was typing. But private schools should be required by law to have onsite security during school hours, public schools too. It’d be for the benefit of all concerned – even the kids showing up to cause a rumble. Years later, they might be thanking the security for not letting them do something that would f-ck up their lives.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy2:59 pm 27 Mar 09

And what exactly do you want the security guards to do? Step in and assault a child during a scrap? Fraught with legal problems, I’d say.

Deadmandrinking said :

I didn’t think Hawker College students could make it any further than the underpass before passing out or getting lost in a session. It must have changed since I went there.

Deadmandrinking said :

I didn’t think Hawker College students could make it any further than the underpass before passing out or getting lost in a session. It must have changed since I went there.

Aaah, the good old underpass. It was like that 15 years ago, good to see some things dont change. But this sort of thing has been going on for years with ppl turning up at other ppls schools. I had the “Crew” (Bombers, remember them?) turn up looking for me because i called one of their Sl#t girlfriends a Sl#t. 30 of them turned up and 30 were chased away by me and my mates, good times. I always hated when wiggers could not be bothered fighting mano-a-mano.

> It’s a government building.

No, it’s not. It’s a private school.

Deadmandrinking2:49 pm 27 Mar 09

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy said :

Hire the services of the Rebels to find these little pricks and teach them a lesson.

We might as well, since Canberra cops tend to react in the same manner as the PSO’s. Oops, sorry.

But seriously, why not just have some on-site security? It’s a government building. It’s not fair that staff should have to ward off wannabe thugs all the time. They shouldn’t have to be at risk of assault all the time.

Of course, we’d have to make sure that security was only responsible for protection of the building from outside threats. You don’t want a situation like in America where they have security guards responsible for playground discipline. I think that’s an entirely different ballgame.

I dunno, it sounds like “those little pricks” would be good future recruits. Going out in a group to hunt down one kid. Good potential, I’d say.

VYBerlinaV8_the_one_they_all_copy2:33 pm 27 Mar 09

Hire the services of the Rebels to find these little pricks and teach them a lesson.

Fair call JB. I’ve had my say.

How about we hop back on topic?

Deadmandrinking said :

Tooks said :

burkes08 said :

The others were probably hiding along with the AFP at the airport.

What do Sydney airport police have to do with ACT police, you clown?

They’re patrolled by the AFP, you clown.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25228781-12377,00.html

Thanks for the news flash detective. I was responding to the stupid cheap shot implying ACT police react in the same manner as PSOs (who aren’t police) at Sydney airport.

I just hope they got on the school bus, and didn’t take up seats on the regular service…

Deadmandrinking2:25 pm 27 Mar 09

Sorry, caf.

I should say OT that this sort of sh-t has been going on in our public schools for quite some time. I’ve witnessed a few incidents of groups attacking individuals over slights away from the school. Two people have an argument, threaten to call their cousins, and their cousin’s cousins, who turn out to be cousins with their opponent’s cousins and everyone just stands around waiting for blood while they work out who’s after who. Then they all go home and it’s like going to a movie where the reel broke.

It really is just childish stuff. Have an onsite security guard to deal with intruders to the school and you’d probably have the problem solved.

Well, this thread sure jumped the shark quickly.

Deadmandrinking2:14 pm 27 Mar 09

Tooks said :

burkes08 said :

The others were probably hiding along with the AFP at the airport.

What do Sydney airport police have to do with ACT police, you clown?

They’re patrolled by the AFP, you clown.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25228781-12377,00.html

burkes08 said :

The others were probably hiding along with the AFP at the airport.

What do Sydney airport police have to do with ACT police, you clown?

burkes08 said :

The others were probably hiding along with the AFP at the airport.

How is that possible when allegedly there are no Police at the airport?

Deadmandrinking1:37 pm 27 Mar 09

I didn’t think Hawker College students could make it any further than the underpass before passing out or getting lost in a session. It must have changed since I went there.

A friend’s son at Dara says there were a mob of kids from Canberra High who were searching for one of the year 9 boys with whom they had had an altercation at the bus centre, when they had threatened him “they would come to get him”. Well they did come during the storm and power outage (!) and a melee ensued. Some say they were armed, but that may just be the drama of the moment. They didn’t find the target boy who was whisked away to a safe place by some of his friends. Apparently this rivalry has been going on for some time. It’s a worry…

It was just a couple of trainee bikers sorting out a young lad. They hit him at school because they learnt a lesson last week about people keeping guns in the home. At least they knew he wouldn’t be packing at school!

Maybe they watched too many Mel Gibson films and went looking for jesus.

PreciousLilywhite11:03 am 27 Mar 09

Probably some sort of “bizzare love triangle”

Whoah? I wonder what it was over.

> Good on the teacher who tried to stop them, but where were the others?

Apparently a number of teachers surrounded the trouble makers but were forced to back off when knives were produced (fair enough). The school was put in “lock down” as soon as the trouble started & from the reports I heard, they handled the situation quite well considering. I’m glad the cops got a few of the idiots, I’m sure that will lead them to the rest.

The others were probably hiding along with the AFP at the airport.

What a bunch of heroes. How many with bats, to beat up one person? Good on the teacher who tried to stop them, but where were the others?

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