As of 3:45pm this afternoon Hindmarsh Drive is closed to Queanbeyan. Police are directing traffic to Queanbeyan via the Monaro Highway to Jerrabomberra.
Late teen P Plater hit a tree and was taken to hospital in a critical condition. Police estimate he was travelling in excess of 140km/h. Accident happened just after 2pm, the road will probably be closed right through peak hour.
It’s Canberra Avenue that was closed, just after the Hindmarsh intersection. Apparently it is open again now, but there are still longer than usual delays in and around the area.
Looking at the footage on the ABC News, it looked like he crossed the median strip, across 3 lanes of traffic going the other way, up an embankment and into a tree.
There were thick skid marks the whole way, so he must have been travelling at a *very* quick pace.
I blame the parents. When I was the equivalent of a P Plater, the maximum top speed on a downhill run with the wind behind me was 120, in a gutless 1.3l Nissan Sunny.
Retrospectively, it saved my life by being such a go-cart, I was not able to put myself into the serious risk category between in this example a regulated traffic light stretch of road.
My guess is one of those hotted up holdens that go for around $30k, and a harsh welcome to the world of enduring debt.
A bloody P plater with his head up his arse, (obviously, because he was not watching the road), wrote my partner’s car off a couple of weeks ago.
Great big four wheel drive with a huge bull bar. It didn’t leave much of the poor little Mirage after he plowed into the back of it. Even though she had been stopped at the round about for quite a while whilst giving way to traffic.
Don’t anyone tell me that P platers are good drivers because they are not. They just haven’t got the experience.
End of rant.
And I know that not all P platers are idiots on the road. There are idiots everywhere.
I hear you Maelinar – my first car was 998cc, and the speedo didn’t even go to 140kmh. If I wanted to show off to my mates I had to bang on about my power to weight ratio, rather than impress them with speed. Looking back, I’m glad I had the car I did too.
I learned to drive in a ’68 Fairmont XT with a 302 Windsor V8, and have an exemplary driving record. A friend of mine learned to drive in one of those 3-cylinder Suzuki jobbies, and he totaled two cars before he turned twenty.
Restricting drivers to low-power cars won’t really help much. I know they do it for motorcycles (I let my L’s expire a year ago, but I’ve still got my 250cc yamaharley), but what of the Sydney P-plate biker who was caught doing 190km/h on his brand new R1 (which he wasn’t legally allowed to ride)?
Doesn’t Victoria have power restrictions on L and P plate drivers? Does anyone have any numbers that show the restrictions have any effect (one way or the other)?
Actually Sammy, you’re not restricted to 250cc at all, you are restricted to a certain power/weight ratio. 1100cc cruisers are generally “learner legal” due to their massive weight, and I can tell you that they will propel you down the road faster than just about any car.
Yeah, you’re right fnaah. Strange I forgot about this, as I contemplated getting a Kawasaki Vulcan 800 when I got my ‘L’s, but went for a ZZR-250 instead.
How ridiculous I looked on that tiny little sport bike.
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Late teen P Plater hit a tree and was taken to hospital in a critical condition. Police estimate he was travelling in excess of 140km/h. Accident happened just after 2pm, the road will probably be closed right through peak hour.
Yay. Monaro Highway will be (extra) chaos.
Hindmarsh Drive doesn’t go to Queanbeyan?
It does if you live in Jerra
It’s Canberra Avenue that was closed, just after the Hindmarsh intersection. Apparently it is open again now, but there are still longer than usual delays in and around the area.
Actually no it doesn’t, my mistake
Yeah, sorry, Canberra Avenue is the road that was closed, at it’s intersection with Hindmarsh Drive.
Welcome back SGS
Any news on whether the kid’s gonna be OK?
Sorry, when you’re driving at 140+ it ain’t an accident, its an inevitability
Only if you take your hands off the wheel to light a cigarette/text your mate/pick your nose.
Looking at the footage on the ABC News, it looked like he crossed the median strip, across 3 lanes of traffic going the other way, up an embankment and into a tree.
There were thick skid marks the whole way, so he must have been travelling at a *very* quick pace.
P plater, 140 clicks…
That’s close to 90 mph folks, sounds faster in mph, doesn’t it.
I’m with NTP on this one…
If you need two hands to pick your nose, Hasdrubahl, you probably need medical attention…
The car crash is a cover story, it was actually a UFO crash.
As in “U F***ing Onanist”. (The driver, not you West_K).
Oh well.
I blame the parents. When I was the equivalent of a P Plater, the maximum top speed on a downhill run with the wind behind me was 120, in a gutless 1.3l Nissan Sunny.
Retrospectively, it saved my life by being such a go-cart, I was not able to put myself into the serious risk category between in this example a regulated traffic light stretch of road.
My guess is one of those hotted up holdens that go for around $30k, and a harsh welcome to the world of enduring debt.
Just plain stupidity!
Getting home yesterday afternoon was a nightmare!
A bloody P plater with his head up his arse, (obviously, because he was not watching the road), wrote my partner’s car off a couple of weeks ago.
Great big four wheel drive with a huge bull bar. It didn’t leave much of the poor little Mirage after he plowed into the back of it. Even though she had been stopped at the round about for quite a while whilst giving way to traffic.
Don’t anyone tell me that P platers are good drivers because they are not. They just haven’t got the experience.
End of rant.
And I know that not all P platers are idiots on the road. There are idiots everywhere.
I hear you Maelinar – my first car was 998cc, and the speedo didn’t even go to 140kmh. If I wanted to show off to my mates I had to bang on about my power to weight ratio, rather than impress them with speed. Looking back, I’m glad I had the car I did too.
When you first get your motorcycle license you are restricted to 250cc. Should be the same for car drivers. Restrict them to 100 kw.
Sammy, that actually makes sense.
I learned to drive in a ’68 Fairmont XT with a 302 Windsor V8, and have an exemplary driving record. A friend of mine learned to drive in one of those 3-cylinder Suzuki jobbies, and he totaled two cars before he turned twenty.
Restricting drivers to low-power cars won’t really help much. I know they do it for motorcycles (I let my L’s expire a year ago, but I’ve still got my 250cc yamaharley), but what of the Sydney P-plate biker who was caught doing 190km/h on his brand new R1 (which he wasn’t legally allowed to ride)?
Doesn’t Victoria have power restrictions on L and P plate drivers? Does anyone have any numbers that show the restrictions have any effect (one way or the other)?
Actually Sammy, you’re not restricted to 250cc at all, you are restricted to a certain power/weight ratio. 1100cc cruisers are generally “learner legal” due to their massive weight, and I can tell you that they will propel you down the road faster than just about any car.
Yeah, you’re right fnaah. Strange I forgot about this, as I contemplated getting a Kawasaki Vulcan 800 when I got my ‘L’s, but went for a ZZR-250 instead.
How ridiculous I looked on that tiny little sport bike.
Restricting drivers to low-power cars won’t really help much.
I disagree. If you take away P-Platers power to drive at high speeds, it lessens the chance that they’ll wrap themselves around a tree.
Engine size has got sod all to do with it. You can kill yourself on a pair of roller blades if you wanted to (or even if you didn’t want to).
Thats true, but wouldn’t there be more chance if those rollerblades went really fast?
Take a look at the other thread, with the small red car on its roof.
-It’s all about engaging brain before gear.
I meant, “small red car”. [ED. edited]