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Hit and run accident, Rivett

By 31 August 2011 31

A male cyclist was hit by a car at 5:35pm on Tuesday, 9th August, at the corner of Hindmarsh Drive and Bangalay Crescent, Rivett. The car was a white early 2000s Mitsubishi Lancer. The right hand front head light was already smashed and covered in white fibro tape. The car driver was male, approx 6 feet tall, with tight brown curly hair.

The car stopped whilst the bike and cyclist were moved from in front of the car, but then sped off. There were up to 15 cars waiting to turn at the intersection.

As none of these cars stopped to assist, Pedal Power are seeking people who may have seen or heard of this accident to contact their office on 6248 7995 to get the required details for reporting this incident to the police.

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31 Responses to Hit and run accident, Rivett
#1
harvyk110:30 am, 31 Aug 11

Wouldn’t a better course of action for one of the witnesses to be simply give the local cop shop a call and say what they saw in their own words?

“Pedal Power are seeking people who may have seen or heard of this accident to contact their office on 6248 7995 to get the required details for reporting this incident to the police.” screams to me that Pedal Power will give you the “right” information which to tell the police…

#2
G-Fresh10:31 am, 31 Aug 11

or just call the rozzers direct

#3
aceofspades10:39 am, 31 Aug 11

Here we go, another car versus cyclist thread. Hope he is ok.

#4
Brandi10:44 am, 31 Aug 11

I am outraged that a motorist would hit a cyclist and fail to assist.

I am outraged that members of the general public in their tin-and-glass motorbubbles would also fail to stop and help or provide a statement as witness.

Under the circumsances, it’s poor form to complain about PP’s awkwardly-worded statement.

#5
harvyk110:56 am, 31 Aug 11

Brandi said :

I am outraged that a motorist would hit a cyclist and fail to assist.

I am outraged that members of the general public in their tin-and-glass motorbubbles would also fail to stop and help or provide a statement as witness.

Under the circumsances, it’s poor form to complain about PP’s awkwardly-worded statement.

#6
harvyk111:03 am, 31 Aug 11

harvyk1 said :

Brandi said :

I am outraged that a motorist would hit a cyclist and fail to assist.

I am outraged that members of the general public in their tin-and-glass motorbubbles would also fail to stop and help or provide a statement as witness.

Under the circumsances, it’s poor form to complain about PP’s awkwardly-worded statement.

Be outraged, also don’t forget to be outraged over the many other things which happen in society which are unfair…

Until independent witnesses come forwards we have only heard one side of the story. Sure it doesn’t bode well for the motorist driving off, but the state of the car does not immediately infer guilt, and for all we know the motorist did not realise that it was an accident of which there are details to be exchanged, especially if the cyclist was able to move themselves off the road without assistance

Of course if the cyclist required assistance to move off the road then the real question is why did someone move a person who could have a spinal injury.

#7
DUB1:08 pm, 31 Aug 11

Look, that is still a pretty busy time at this intersection.Pedal Power (law enforcement in lycra??) claims that there were up to FIFTEEN (!!) cars at intersection, why did not any one stop and report?Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

#8
Grail2:13 pm, 31 Aug 11

harvyk1 said :

Wouldn’t a better course of action for one of the witnesses to be simply give the local cop shop a call and say what they saw in their own words?

It’s really simple: having a case number means the relevant witness accounts can be filed together, rather than getting lost in the melange.

DUB said :

Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

You wouldn’t happen to be jumping to conclusions there, by any chance? If the cyclist happened to be on the main road at a T intersection, riding along Hindmarsh drive, that cyclist would have right of way. That would make this incident a failure to give way, at the very least. There’s nothing in the message from Pedal Power to indicate that the cyclist caused this incident other than by being in the wrong place when a blind/drunk driver was going past.

What if the reason that no-one stopped is simply that they thought, “oh, he’s not being carried away in an ambulance, I don’t need to pay any further attention, and I do need to hurry to get one of the free parking spots close to the office”?

Does the fact that a person is not bleeding to death on the side of the road imply that they were at fault or that no assistance was required?

Please apply at least a few seconds thought before clicking that “Submit” button.

#9
Postalgeek2:43 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Look, that is still a pretty busy time at this intersection.Pedal Power (law enforcement in lycra??) claims that there were up to FIFTEEN (!!) cars at intersection, why did not any one stop and report?Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

Sometimes it’s hard to pick dicks on the road in time, but fortunately your early use of the word ‘lycra’ gave me ample warning in this thread.

#10
Jim Jones3:12 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.

That’s one massive logical failing in your argument, compounded by one gigantic assumption.

#11
Jim Jones3:14 pm, 31 Aug 11

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

#12
far_northact3:34 pm, 31 Aug 11

harvyk1 said :

Wouldn’t a better course of action for one of the witnesses to be simply give the local cop shop a call and say what they saw in their own words?

“Pedal Power are seeking people who may have seen or heard of this accident to contact their office on 6248 7995 to get the required details for reporting this incident to the police.” screams to me that Pedal Power will give you the “right” information which to tell the police…

Whats the “right” information to tell the police about a car/cylist accident? The police don’t operate on a ‘blame/fault’ system in this instance. More likely they would like to hear from the driver to see if they have insurance, are willing to admit fault, and lodge an insurance claim through their (the drivers) insurance company.

I don’t really like cyclists either. But my partner is one. He was hit at a roundabout 2 weeks ago when a driver failed to give way. Heaps of people drove by without stopping. There are a lot of cyclists being hit all the time. I rang the police – but unless there is a reason for them to attend (death/drink driver) they don’t attend. They advised to ‘file the report online’ – I asked what they do with the reports, is it used for insurance etc? The police officer said ‘oh we don’t do anything, its more for statistical purposes’.
When he took his bike in for repairs (write-off) they advised that they had seen multiple cyclists hit in the last few weeks. Its becoming a more common occurance in Canberra.

#13
DUB3:36 pm, 31 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

#14
Stevian3:38 pm, 31 Aug 11

Postalgeek said :

DUB said :

Look, that is still a pretty busy time at this intersection.Pedal Power (law enforcement in lycra??) claims that there were up to FIFTEEN (!!) cars at intersection, why did not any one stop and report?Surely, if I saw a motorist was in the wrong, I would stop and assist/offered to be a witness, but the fact nobody helped…..It shows that:
i-Lycra wearing dude thought he owns the road and caused all this.
ii- read i, then ask yourself why growing number of motorists (yes, including me)-don’t like dicks like him.
There are plenty of cyclists that do the right things, and I respect them, they don’t push their luck, but then, there are some…..like the subject of discussions.

Sometimes it’s hard to pick dicks on the road in time, but fortunately your early use of the word ‘lycra’ gave me ample warning in this thread.

It’s actually very easy to pick the dicks on the road, if they’re on the road they’re dicks. Motorists and cyclists alike

#15
Jim Jones3:55 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

That whole post just went riiiiight over your head, didn’t it?

#16
Stevian4:06 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

Why bother? It’s no concern of yours

You’re an interfering old woman (Yes I know you have a Y chromosome, but thats just a technicality)

#17
longshanks4:14 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

Wow. I for one feel so much safer in the knowledge that you walk the streets of Canberra, Mr DUB.

Your blood boils, yet you remain calm. You boldly jump to conclusions that mere mortals baulk at. You are armed, and ready to dispense justice. This what Canberra needs!

Let’s all pack some heat and step into any conflict situation without logical and rational thought – that’ll make Canberra a safer place.

#18
Calamity4:22 pm, 31 Aug 11

Jim Jones said :

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

That whole post just went riiiiight over your head, didn’t it?

So funny for the rest of us, though HAHA

#19
Postalgeek4:27 pm, 31 Aug 11

Calamity said :

Jim Jones said :

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

That whole post just went riiiiight over your head, didn’t it?

So funny for the rest of us, though HAHA

< /shakeshead>

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nvdd7zHrtks/TKK-JADNpmI/AAAAAAAABYA/FP_GKjRKrO0/s1600/1166344242098ln7.jpg

#20
DUB4:57 pm, 31 Aug 11

Calamity said :

So funny for the rest of us, though HAHA

LOL, it’ll be funny when you will be needing help, yet people will be going past you, ignoring.:)

#21
Stevian5:53 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Calamity said :

So funny for the rest of us, though HAHA

LOL, it’ll be funny when you will be needing help, yet people will be going past you, ignoring.:)

We’ve got along without you so far.

#22
FD107:29 pm, 31 Aug 11

It’s funny how PedalPower seem to think all 15 cars waiting at the intersection were watching closely (perhaps enviously) as a cyclist, rather akin to a majestic bird, seems to float on by, all the drivers clearly giving their full attention to the marvellous cycle in their presence.

At 5:35pm with the current light around that time, I’m betting the 15th car in the queue couldn’t see diddily-squat. The 15th car would be agggges back, especially considering Canberra drivers like to leave about 3 carlengths between them and the vehicle in front. How often do you sit in a queue of cars and focus only on a bicycle going along the road you’re turning on to? Sure, the first car probably saw it (as the info implies it happened right in front of them) and not to stop is a douche move. Perhaps even the second saw it too. But I don’t think all 15 cars waiting there did.

Also, I think PedalPower is stretching the timeframe a bit, this incident happened over three weeks ago. Who would have taken note of or committed important details to memory only to sit on it for three weeks? If you were motivated enough to notice and retain important information, you’d hardly wait for an invitation from PedalPower on the riotACT until you piped up about it.

#23
Stevian8:08 pm, 31 Aug 11

But seriously, DUB, if you really want to be a vigilante, join the Guardian Angels

http://www.guardianangels.org/index.php

Apparently they are forming a chapter in Canberra.

Canberra (In Development), A.C.T. – Australia
Chapter Leader: Damian Heffernan
Address: GPO Box 1189
Canberra 2601 Australia
Mobile Phone: 011.61.2.0414.873.177
FAX: 011.61.2.02.6253.4805
Email Address: Canberra@GuardianAngels.org

#24
Tooks8:22 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Calamity said :

So funny for the rest of us, though HAHA

LOL, it’ll be funny when you will be needing help, yet people will be going past you, ignoring.:)

I for one thank you, Batman.

#25
The Antichrist8:52 pm, 31 Aug 11

FD10 said :

….It’s funny how PedalPower seem to think all 15 cars waiting at the intersection were watching closely (perhaps enviously) as a cyclist, rather akin to a majestic bird, seems to float on by, all the drivers clearly giving their full attention to the marvellous cycle in their presence.

At 5:35pm with the current light around that time, I’m betting the 15th car in the queue couldn’t see diddily-squat….

I reckon you could bet your house that the drivers from even the 3rd car back would not have a clue that a treadlie rider had been involved in the prang, and may not have even seen the bike off the side of the road by the time they got through…….but the clear implication is that 15 evil car-drivers failed in their duty to stop and render assistance to the pushbike rider.

#26
Jethro9:04 pm, 31 Aug 11

DUB said :

Jim Jones said :

“I saw someone get the sh1t beaten out of them in civic. No-one helped them. Therefore it was their own fault and they deserved it.”

We both know that majority of people in Canberra are pussies, they can’t even resolve problems with others by speaking to a person they have a problem with first, let alone-help others in time of distress.
Bashing in Civic?
Night time, I guess, and what did you do-you saw it and did nothing?
I’ll tell you something, when I lived OS, my wife and I witnessed a guy, obviously on drugs, trying to indecently assault a girl, in her early 20′s, daylight, 100′s of people walking by, not single one of them caring.
What did i do? My blood boiled in an instant, I had a handgun on me that fires rubber bullets-I fired in his neck, after he refused my demand to let her go.he squealed like a pig.
People around started to scream, I picked up a shell and walked away, calmly.True story.
Firearm was legal, btw. No problems at all.
Even if I had no gun on me at that time I would have stepped in.

Once I was in line at Maccas, and this old woman, she completely pushed in front of me. Well I swiped that walking cane right out from under her, and then I beat the living Bejesus out of her with it. Nothing left but a pulp. Even if she had no walking cane I would have found some way to punish her for her line cutting ways.

I’m tough too.

#27
Aeek9:07 pm, 31 Aug 11

Stevian said :

But seriously, DUB, if you really want to be a vigilante, join the Guardian Angels

http://www.guardianangels.org/index.php

Apparently they are forming a chapter in Canberra.

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Rat Patrol also have a Canberra chapter, and they are definitely not about lycra.
So DUB would be cool with sharing Northbourne with a Couch bike and a bonfire bike?

#28
Punter8:29 am, 01 Sep 11

This post suggests the matter is being investigated by Pedal Power and hasn’t yet been reported to Police.

Grail said :

It’s really simple: having a case number means the relevant witness accounts can be filed together, rather than getting lost in the melange.

You seem to have some knowledge of this Grail, there is a big potential problem with the credibility of witnesses whose evidence is gained by an organisation who almost certainly would hold a bias to one ‘side of the story’ under these circumstances. Police are in a position of impatiallity when investigating these matters. The first comment hits the nail on the head.

I would suggest a more appropriate course of action is to report the matter to Police (all collisions which occur in the ACT are required to be reported to Police), which generates a case number as mentioned. Pedal Power should only encourage witnesses to contact Police directly themselves without any other ‘interference’ with these witnesses.

#29
PatMan9:38 am, 01 Sep 11

I’m outraged that the driver wasn’t a 4WD mum, on a school run, and Asian. No fodder for the trollers.

#30
yellowsnow9:54 am, 01 Sep 11

Solution seems obvious: just lodge a report with Police (can’t believe this hasn’t been done already, the more you wait, the less seriously the police will take the report), then look for witnesses via RiotAct or whatever, and complain about police not doing anything (presumably someone in police or govt reads RA, so eventually they’ll feel compelled to act).

Failing that, get a bunch of your meanest looking friends/pedal power cyclists together, cruise the streets of Weston Creek and surrounding suburbs looking for white cars with sticky taped head lights (there can’t be more than ten of them around), then if you’re 60%+ certain it’s the car that knocked you down, proceed to knock out all other lights with bike locks,maybe let air out of tyres too, then call the police as a concerned member of public with information about a car driving in a dangerous and intimidating manner without working lights and with people on board seen to be brandishing firearms, providing address and license plate of vehicle. This approach is guaranteed to achieve results.

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