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Hospital options released (with Poll)

By 25 February 2011 10

Katy Gallagher has announced she’s released a discussion paper on plans for expanding Canberra’s hospitals:

“As part of the rebuild of our public health system, currently underway, we need to increase our bed capacity by a minimum of 400 beds. This involves a significant expansion of our health system and requires careful consideration of all available options to ensure we create the best public health system possible,” Katy Gallagher said.

Over the next 15 years the ACT’s public hospital admissions will increase by an estimated 77% and overnight hospital admissions by 49%.

The ACT Government is seeking feedback on the options available, outlined in the paper, on how best to provide for the expansion of hospital services across Canberra.

The options and predicted costs are:

    – A – Expand on existing TCH and Calvary Campus (Business as Usual), 200 beds Canberra Hospital, 200 beds Calvary Hospital – $788,460,000

    – B – Consolidation on TCH Campus (One Hospital Model), 400 beds Canberra Hospital, $832,840,000

    – C – Build a New Northside Hospital (Three Hospital Model), 200 beds Northside Hospital, 200 beds Canberra Hospital – $730,810,000

    – D – A Fully Networked and Specialised Hospital System – new acute hospital, 400 beds Northside Hospital – $687,650,000

    – E – A Fully Networked and Specialised Hospital System – new sub-acute hospital, 200 beds Northside Hospital, 200 beds Calvary Hospital – $792,320,000

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10 Responses to Hospital options released (with Poll)
#1
knuckles2:21 pm, 25 Feb 11

I certainly don’t support any proposal that donates more tax payer funds to the Little Company of Money.

#2
pollyanna6:06 pm, 25 Feb 11

A few weeks ago in a Sunday Canberra Times an adjunct professor of health from ANU said that building a third hospital was a “slap stick comedy”.

ACT labor seem to think that a new building is the answer to every problem.

Quamby Youth Detention Facility was a problem so build Bimberi, has that solved the problems?

We did not want to have prisoners in NSW jails so build AMC, has that solved the problem, we don’t know, ACT labor will not release re-jailing figures.

As the good professor said staff are the key to outcomes, not buildings. Add staff and beds to our existing hospitals.

I expect, like AMC, the motive to build a new hospital is so that Jon and Katy can open it just before the next election, have a smoking ceremony and their names on a brass plate. It wont take patients till much later like AMC but in their dotage Katy and Jon will be able look at the plaques and console themselves about what great reformers they were.

It just highlights the joke of people trying to be real politicians when they are not.

#3
JustThinking7:43 pm, 25 Feb 11

pollyanna said :

A few weeks ago in a Sunday Canberra Times an adjunct professor of health from ANU said that building a third hospital was a “slap stick comedy”.

ACT labor seem to think that a new building is the answer to every problem.

Quamby Youth Detention Facility was a problem so build Bimberi, has that solved the problems?

We did not want to have prisoners in NSW jails so build AMC, has that solved the problem, we don’t know, ACT labor will not release re-jailing figures.

As the good professor said staff are the key to outcomes, not buildings. Add staff and beds to our existing hospitals.

I expect, like AMC, the motive to build a new hospital is so that Jon and Katy can open it just before the next election, have a smoking ceremony and their names on a brass plate. It wont take patients till much later like AMC but in their dotage Katy and Jon will be able look at the plaques and console themselves about what great reformers they were.

It just highlights the joke of people trying to be real politicians when they are not.

Polly,
We are the real POLITICIANS,,,
You just have to ALL realise that!!!! PLS do not listen to the newspapers….Go out to Quamby and check it for yourself…
Newspaper reports a few weeks a go had my son as a sword wielding maniac with drugs, ammunition and stolen stuff…
Works out my son was camping and fishing in an unregestered camping/fishing spot….
The media hypes it up to make sooooo much more news of it

#4
quostatus8:05 pm, 25 Feb 11

FFS build a 400 bed, 5 star hotel for $200m. Call it a hospital after it’s built – save some of our money.

I work in health and connot understand how a 400 bed facility can cost anywhere near $800m.

Doing work for “health” has become like doing work for Government – there is a premium charged.

#5
beejay763:02 pm, 26 Feb 11

quostatus said :

FFS build a 400 bed, 5 star hotel for $200m. Call it a hospital after it’s built – save some of our money.

I work in health and connot understand how a 400 bed facility can cost anywhere near $800m.

Doing work for “health” has become like doing work for Government – there is a premium charged.

Although I concede there may be a ‘premium’ there are a number facilities included in hospitals that hotels don’t have. They tend to be the expensive bits, I rather suspect. As a health worker, I would very much hope you’d be familiar with the difference between a hotel and a hospital!

#6
INFP5:49 pm, 26 Feb 11

quostatus said :

FFS build a 400 bed, 5 star hotel for $200m. Call it a hospital after it’s built – save some of our money.

I work in health and connot understand how a 400 bed facility can cost anywhere near $800m.

Considering you claim to “work in health”, you should realise that they arent just gonna drop off 400 beds at the hospital and build a simple wall around it. The hospital equipment alone would be a shitload added onto the bill, and you would expect that extra staff costs, which would be required to care for those beds, would be included in those predicted costs? I am not suggesting those final costs arent somewhat inflated, but I wouldnt be surprised if it came close..

#7
One9:24 pm, 27 May 12

none of the above.

Reasons? well no point operating on a person who refuses to see a dentist – that same person will be arriving back to occupy a bed really soon.

Then again – considering the health care system here allows people to be seen, and then eat while waiting the 3 or 4 hours – its amazing there are any beds at all.

I guess it gives those with money something to manage for a increased profit – never mind the total lack of MRI full body scans – I am sure insurance fraud prevention is a growing industry that could have some new regulated framework that increase future share values.

Try these 2 things first: IN EMERGENCY – THEN DONT EAT – EVEN IF YOU THINK YOUR NOT GOING FOR SURGERY!!! AFTER TREATMENT LEAVE WHEN YOU FEEL READY TO BE BASHED BY A DRUNKEN FAMILY MEMBER!!!

#8
DrKoresh10:02 pm, 27 May 12

One said :

none of the above.

Reasons? well no point operating on a person who refuses to see a dentist – that same person will be arriving back to occupy a bed really soon.

Then again – considering the health care system here allows people to be seen, and then eat while waiting the 3 or 4 hours – its amazing there are any beds at all.

I guess it gives those with money something to manage for a increased profit – never mind the total lack of MRI full body scans – I am sure insurance fraud prevention is a growing industry that could have some new regulated framework that increase future share values.

Try these 2 things first: IN EMERGENCY – THEN DONT EAT – EVEN IF YOU THINK YOUR NOT GOING FOR SURGERY!!! AFTER TREATMENT LEAVE WHEN YOU FEEL READY TO BE BASHED BY A DRUNKEN FAMILY MEMBER!!!

Finally, someone on RA saying something that makes sense.

#9
I-filed10:19 pm, 27 May 12

knuckles said :

I certainly don’t support any proposal that donates more tax payer funds to the Little Company of Money.

Totally agree. Crucifixes do not belong on taxpayer funded hospital walls.

#10
dungfungus11:01 am, 28 May 12

Option F
Utilize some of the empty beds in the private hospitals in the Territory (there are heaps of them)
Why can’t the “public” system spend some money on private hospital facilities? Is it too hard to put political idealologies aside when taking into account the health of everyone?

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