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Hunting the Holt rapists

By 17 September 2012 79

ACT Policing’s Criminal Investigations is investigating a sexual assault which occurred on Saturday evening (September 15) in Holt.

About 5.30pm, a 16-year-old girl was running along Spofforth Street in Holt, listening to music via her earphones, when she was grabbed from behind and dragged into a Ford Falcon sedan, possibly metallic blue in colour, by two men.

After the girl was sexually assaulted by one of the men, she was driven to a car park near the Kippax Playing Fields and released. The girl notified her partner and guardian who in turn contacted police.

The three males involved were described as Caucasian, 18-25 years old with Australian accents.

Detective Superintendent Brett McCann from ACT Policing Criminal Investigations said incidents like this are extremely rare in Canberra and police have committed a range of resources to finding these offenders.

“An incident like this is traumatic to the victim and her family, and is totally unacceptable to our community,” Detective Superintendent McCann said.

“We are urging anyone who may know those involved in this crime, or knows someone matching the description of the offenders to contact Crime Stoppers or police.”

One male is described as having a large build, short blond hair, blue/green eyes, with stubble facial hair. He was wearing light blue denim jeans, a blue/green jumper with white cuffs on the sleeves and white writing on the front.

The driver was described as having a husky voice, dark coloured hair with shaved sides and a mohawk, clean shaven and wearing a dark top.

The front passenger was described as having a light brown short hair with freckles on the back of his neck. He was wearing a black long sleeve Adidas jumper with white stripes down the arms.

ACT Policing is urging anyone with information or who may have witnessed the incident to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000 or via act.crimestoppers.com.au. Information can be provided anonymously.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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79 Responses to Hunting the Holt rapists
#1
Conan of Cooma2:48 pm, 17 Sep 12

Let me guess, they did the Harold…

#2
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd2:57 pm, 17 Sep 12

This is why when my daughters are old enough they will be armed.

Filthy scumbags. Hopefully they are caught quickly.

#3
bundah3:12 pm, 17 Sep 12

Animalistic behaviour is clearly still alive and well.Once again i feel the need to reiterate that there are some who have no ‘fear of consequence’.Lenient sentencing has only consolidated that mindset.

#4
p13:22 pm, 17 Sep 12

This makes me so angry.

Whenever I hear about some completely innocent 20 something male being severely beaten or killed in some totally unprovoked attacked, I wonder if it was revenge for something like this.

#5
Mysteryman3:25 pm, 17 Sep 12

That poor girl. I can’t imagine how awful that would have been. I hope these “men” are caught and suitably punished.

#6
PBO3:35 pm, 17 Sep 12

p1 said :

This makes me so angry.

Whenever I hear about some completely innocent 20 something male being severely beaten or killed in some totally unprovoked attacked, I wonder if it was revenge for something like this.

Beyond angry, I will be keeping an eye out for the car and those “blokes”.

#7
arescarti423:39 pm, 17 Sep 12

The thing I find astounding is that it happened in broad daylight on a suburban street. These sorts of assaults usually only happen to drunk people walking home through Haig Park in the dead of night.

#8
c_c4:48 pm, 17 Sep 12

arescarti42 said :

The thing I find astounding is that it happened in broad daylight on a suburban street. These sorts of assaults usually only happen to drunk people walking home through Haig Park in the dead of night.

Not at all astonishing, daylight and even the presence of others looking on has long ceased to discourage thugs.

People generally aren’t willing to intervene, can ignore just about anything and this is what thugs now rely on. Just a shame dog-man can’t be in more places.

#9
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd5:53 pm, 17 Sep 12

c_c said :

arescarti42 said :

The thing I find astounding is that it happened in broad daylight on a suburban street. These sorts of assaults usually only happen to drunk people walking home through Haig Park in the dead of night.

Not at all astonishing, daylight and even the presence of others looking on has long ceased to discourage thugs.

People generally aren’t willing to intervene, can ignore just about anything and this is what thugs now rely on. Just a shame dog-man can’t be in more places.

Also, holt

#10
milkman7:11 pm, 17 Sep 12

c_c said :

Not at all astonishing, daylight and even the presence of others looking on has long ceased to discourage thugs.

They won’t get much of a penalty anyway.

#11
Spykler8:31 pm, 17 Sep 12

c_c said :

arescarti42 said :

The thing I find astounding is that it happened in broad daylight on a suburban street. These sorts of assaults usually only happen to drunk people walking home through Haig Park in the dead of night.

Not at all astonishing, daylight and even the presence of others looking on has long ceased to discourage thugs.

People generally aren’t willing to intervene, can ignore just about anything and this is what thugs now rely on. Just a shame dog-man can’t be in more places.

Have we really dropped this low?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kitty_Genovese

#12
farnarkler9:14 pm, 17 Sep 12

I would have these two executed if caught. As there are so many on here who don’t believe in such harsh punishments, what would you think is an apt punishment???

#13
Doc Dogg9:35 pm, 17 Sep 12

I don’t want to make light of this crime…but they can’t have gotten away too quickly with all the “speed cushions” along the road to “make the street safer”.

OK, back to the comments about the punishments they should receive.

#14
Spykler9:50 pm, 17 Sep 12

farnarkler said :

I would have these two executed if caught. As there are so many on here who don’t believe in such harsh punishments, what would you think is an apt punishment???

In some countries these two would be executed.

#15
Flossie10:15 pm, 17 Sep 12

Apt punishment that reflects the seriousness of the crime but is humane but also acts as a deterrent to others.

How about minimum non parole period of a decade and hard labour to pay their food and board.

#16
Truthiness10:16 pm, 17 Sep 12

An apt punishment would be psychological rehabilitation, our priority should be stopping it from happening again, putting them in jail is likely to further destabilise them, leading to an increased chance of reoffense.

The whole notion that you can scare people out of committing crime through harsh sentencing is bogus. People do bad things like this without even considering the repercussions, it would make no difference if the punishment were prison or death, they don’t think about it.

Clearly these are confused and disturbed young men, products of a confused and disturbed society. This horrible act was like a cry for help, it is deeply saddening that these issues were not caught and treated earlier. Our society has failed these young men, and this poor girl has paid the price of our failure.

Enacting harsh vengeance upon them may feel right, but it will not make them better people, it will probably make them worse.

#17
Thumper10:24 pm, 17 Sep 12

I believe in rehabilitation.

However, not in this case.

How terrible. How degrading. Three gutless excuses for humans, sorry, words fail me…..

I hope the girl involved can find the strength to recover from such a heartless attack.

What the fuck is society coming to when people like this are on our streets? People who simply don’t care about you or me or anyone. Just don’t care. What society is it that we are breeding here when people can be so callous, so uncaring, so full of self importance that they can do something like this?

And moreso, they will be allowed back on the streets.

I’m against capital punishment but sometimes my resolve is seriously tested.

#18
c_c11:33 pm, 17 Sep 12

Truthiness said :

Our society has failed these young men, and this poor girl has paid the price of our failure.

Don’t you dare.

These ‘young men’ have failed our society. Don’t ever forget that.

Obviously the part of me that feels for her and the family would like to see these thugs shot and drowned. The sane part of course knows about the delicate balancing act of punishment/rehabilitation and recidivism. But there is no part of me that feels I nor society must bare any of the blame.

#19
shauno2:02 am, 18 Sep 12

Spykler said :

farnarkler said :

I would have these two executed if caught. As there are so many on here who don’t believe in such harsh punishments, what would you think is an apt punishment???

In some countries these two would be executed.

Believe it or not but in some countries the girl would be executed. It happened a few weeks back in Afghanistan and its happened many times before that one to.

#20
screaming banshee5:59 am, 18 Sep 12

A cry for help???? How are we supposed to treat them, by asking for 16 year old volunteers to fulfill the fantasies of these scumbags.

Using the risk triangle, I propose an engineering solution. I suspect the residual risk of re-offending after the surgical (or not) separation of the testes from these individuals would be quite low.

#21
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd6:43 am, 18 Sep 12

Truthiness said :

An apt punishment would be psychological rehabilitation, our priority should be stopping it from happening again, putting them in jail is likely to further destabilise them, leading to an increased chance of reoffense.

The whole notion that you can scare people out of committing crime through harsh sentencing is bogus. People do bad things like this without even considering the repercussions, it would make no difference if the punishment were prison or death, they don’t think about it.

Clearly these are confused and disturbed young men, products of a confused and disturbed society. This horrible act was like a cry for help, it is deeply saddening that these issues were not caught and treated earlier. Our society has failed these young men, and this poor girl has paid the price of our failure.

Enacting harsh vengeance upon them may feel right, but it will not make them better people, it will probably make them worse.

You know what would work, have immediate effect and cause others to re think about raping someone?

Castration.

#22
poetix7:33 am, 18 Sep 12

Truthiness said :

An apt punishment would be psychological rehabilitation, our priority should be stopping it from happening again, putting them in jail is likely to further destabilise them, leading to an increased chance of reoffense.

The whole notion that you can scare people out of committing crime through harsh sentencing is bogus. People do bad things like this without even considering the repercussions, it would make no difference if the punishment were prison or death, they don’t think about it.

Clearly these are confused and disturbed young men, products of a confused and disturbed society. This horrible act was like a cry for help, it is deeply saddening that these issues were not caught and treated earlier. Our society has failed these young men, and this poor girl has paid the price of our failure.

Enacting harsh vengeance upon them may feel right, but it will not make them better people, it will probably make them worse.

I’m beginning to think you are trolling, but unusually, from a mad left-wing, as opposed to crazy right-wing, position. No-one could really be so obtuse as to say rape is a ‘cry for help’. It’s an act of selected and selective violence.

What would you give them? A counselling session and a ride in a hot car to make them feel better? I’d say ten years in jail is more appropriate. Society needs protection from people like this.

#23
Truthiness7:42 am, 18 Sep 12

If we as a society rampantly encourage individualistic self gratification, if we use violence to dominate others and get what we want, can we really be surprised when individuals start acting the same way?

Half our media is American style glorification of violence while censoring sex, our troops are off raping other countries and we have terror laws that allow us to be abducted at anytime.

Yes there are bad apples, but individuals are still strongly affected by society, and our society has issues.

#24
DUB8:06 am, 18 Sep 12

Simon Corbell, I would urge you to send all caught rapists to me, they will never again think of committing any crime, just provide me with a space to work -basement with drains in the floor, hose, and $500 gift voucher from Masters. :-)

#25
Thumper8:15 am, 18 Sep 12

Our society has failed these young men, and this poor girl has paid the price of our failure.

I’m at a loss for words that anyone in their right mind could even entertain such thoughts.

#26
Deref9:15 am, 18 Sep 12

Spykler said :

farnarkler said :

I would have these two executed if caught. As there are so many on here who don’t believe in such harsh punishments, what would you think is an apt punishment???

In some countries these two would be executed.

In others, the victim would.

#27
scorpio639:34 am, 18 Sep 12

Canberrans would be surprised at how many of their own sons from affluent backgrounds offer 14 and 15 yr old girls alcohol with rohypnol in it (their first alcoholic drink) drugging them, raping them, the girl(s) hide the occurrence, sink into depression, exhibit behavioural problems for years, ALL because they are told or hold the belief that if they take it to the police and court, these 17 year old and 18 year old offenders (most in years 11 and 12) will get off with a warning and no charges.

I have spent many years around girls who have been raped and molested, counselled them, most turn to drugs alcohol and suffer depression, severe anxiety and mental illnesses.

Yes, many members of society are to blame, at fault, given that many of these are Canberran parents who have failed to address their male teenage sons behaviour through their early teenage years, allowing them to be disrespectful towards females and doing the hell ‘what they want’ on weekends, while they, the parents took off to the coast or on their holidays leaving their sons unattended.

There are fantastic parents in Canberra who have ‘raised their sons well’, most sadly and unfortunately for the victims (many I know quite well years later in their twenties) it has ruined their lives and their futures of having a partner through life until their mental illnesses are cured.

Name and shame? What is the use, the police and courts cannot do a thing until the community bands together and amends legislation. Same old, same old.

#28
johnboy9:40 am, 18 Sep 12

scorpio63 said :

Canberrans would be surprised at how many of their own sons from affluent backgrounds offer 14 and 15 yr old girls alcohol with rohypnol in it (their first alcoholic drink) drugging them, raping them, the girl(s) hide the occurrence, sink into depression, exhibit behavioural problems for years, ALL because they are told or hold the belief that if they take it to the police and court, these 17 year old and 18 year old offenders (most in years 11 and 12) will get off with a warning and no charges.

I have spent many years around girls who have been raped and molested, counselled them, most turn to drugs alcohol and suffer depression, severe anxiety and mental illnesses.

Yes, many members of society are to blame, at fault, given that many of these are Canberran parents who have failed to address their male teenage sons behaviour through their early teenage years, allowing them to be disrespectful towards females and doing the hell ‘what they want’ on weekends, while they, the parents took off to the coast or on their holidays leaving their sons unattended.

There are fantastic parents in Canberra who have ‘raised their sons well’, most sadly and unfortunately for the victims (many I know quite well years later in their twenties) it has ruined their lives and their futures of having a partner through life until their mental illnesses are cured.

Name and shame? What is the use, the police and courts cannot do a thing until the community bands together and amends legislation. Same old, same old.

Considering that to my knowledge there has never been one confirmed case of rohypnol use in Canberra perhaps more surprising is how many young people just get dead drunk and taken advantage of.

Or as Doctor Rudi says:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WCpb30lYKE

#29
poetix9:51 am, 18 Sep 12

Truthiness said :

If we as a society rampantly encourage individualistic self gratification, if we use violence to dominate others and get what we want, can we really be surprised when individuals start acting the same way?

Half our media is American style glorification of violence while censoring sex, our troops are off raping other countries and we have terror laws that allow us to be abducted at anytime.

Yes there are bad apples, but individuals are still strongly affected by society, and our society has issues.

I think I should probably stop reading your comments, however, calling rapists ‘bad apples’ is bizarre. That’s a term most appropriately used for people who talk in films, perhaps stretching to those who dump rubbish inappropriately, or even, at the extreme limit, to those who park in disabled spots.

Rapists are not ‘bad apples’ as if they’ve just gone a bit off. You are strangely insulting to men who might have a difficult time but don’t take it out on women. Such people are part of our flawed society too. They’re just not given to choosing violence. Note the word choosing. You seem to see as all as mindless automatons.

#30
chewy149:56 am, 18 Sep 12

scorpio63 said :

Canberrans would be surprised at how many of their own sons from affluent backgrounds offer 14 and 15 yr old girls alcohol with rohypnol in it (their first alcoholic drink) drugging them, raping them, the girl(s) hide the occurrence, sink into depression, exhibit behavioural problems for years, ALL because they are told or hold the belief that if they take it to the police and court, these 17 year old and 18 year old offenders (most in years 11 and 12) will get off with a warning and no charges.

I have spent many years around girls who have been raped and molested, counselled them, most turn to drugs alcohol and suffer depression, severe anxiety and mental illnesses.

Yes, many members of society are to blame, at fault, given that many of these are Canberran parents who have failed to address their male teenage sons behaviour through their early teenage years, allowing them to be disrespectful towards females and doing the hell ‘what they want’ on weekends, while they, the parents took off to the coast or on their holidays leaving their sons unattended.

There are fantastic parents in Canberra who have ‘raised their sons well’, most sadly and unfortunately for the victims (many I know quite well years later in their twenties) it has ruined their lives and their futures of having a partner through life until their mental illnesses are cured.

Name and shame? What is the use, the police and courts cannot do a thing until the community bands together and amends legislation. Same old, same old.

Wow.

Truthiness and yourself have just bumped the crazy in this thread up to eleven.

I’m sure there’s plenty of teenagers getting drunk and having unwanted sex (both males and females), but to claim that there’s groups of males specifically drugging females with Rohypnol to rape them takes it to a whole new level. Got any evidence?

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