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Incident at Belconnen Mall

By 12 May 2013 46

This in from ACT Policing:

– ACT Policing is responding to an incident at Westfield Belconnen where a man has been injured.
– Police received the report about 3.05pm that a man had fallen from the 3rd floor.
– Police are not treating the incident as suspicious.
– The man has been conveyed to The Canberra Hospital in a serious condition.
– No further information will be provided.

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46 Responses to
Incident at Belconnen Mall
Rollersk8r 7:14 pm
12 May 13
#1

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon. Sadly I’m guessing the mall will be forced to put up barriers to ensure there is zero risk of this ever happening again.

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 7:48 pm
12 May 13
#2

I’m not savvy with these type of reports but I’m reading attempted suicide?

gospeedygo 8:11 pm
12 May 13
#3

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon. Sadly I’m guessing the mall will be forced to put up barriers to ensure there is zero risk of this ever happening again.

Just like they did the last time……

SupaSal 8:22 pm
12 May 13
#4

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon. Sadly I’m guessing the mall will be forced to put up barriers to ensure there is zero risk of this ever happening again.

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon. Sadly I’m guessing the mall will be forced to put up barriers to ensure there is zero risk of this ever happening again.

It has happened before, I was unfortunate enough at the ripe age of 18 to witness a mental health patient on day release to go shopping for Christmas jump to her death, The scene will never leave me, I remember pulling her husband back from the ‘barrier’ so he would not have to watch his wife die. Westfield said they would fix it then – 9 years later NOTHING!

liability 8:32 pm
12 May 13
#5

There’s been a few of these in recent years. Don’t know anyting about this one, but am aware of a couple of ones where people have simply decided to jump over the rail on the top level and they generally land with a splat on the bottom level.

Quite distressing for the family of those involved, as well as the innocent bystanders. About five or more years ago someone did that and landed on the floor not far from the kids lined for the Chistmas Santa photos.

c_c™ 10:20 pm
12 May 13
#6

SupaSal said :

Westfield said they would fix it then – 9 years later NOTHING!

What exactly do you mean fix it? Put fences and nets everywhere so someone doesn’t top them self? I’m assuming if nothing has changed since then, that the barrier meets standards. You can’t cotton wool the world.

This could be suicide, or it could be something like that groom in Sydney recently who was skylarking on a railing and fell two storeys. Either way, shouldn’t have to sterilise the whole world for 99% of people on the basis 1% will do something bad.

SupaSal 6:44 am
13 May 13
#7

c_c™ said :

SupaSal said :

Westfield said they would fix it then – 9 years later NOTHING!

What exactly do you mean fix it? Put fences and nets everywhere so someone doesn’t top them self? I’m assuming if nothing has changed since then, that the barrier meets standards. You can’t cotton wool the world.

This could be suicide, or it could be something like that groom in Sydney recently who was skylarking on a railing and fell two storeys. Either way, shouldn’t have to sterilise the whole world for 99% of people on the basis 1% will do something bad.

Westfield said in a be-brief that they where looking into putting that glass stuff that they have up the New end of the Mall on the top floor. I still to this day don’t walk anywhere near the side. I also remember when someone was sitting on the barrier on the 1st fall and slipped backwards, about 5-6 years ago. Skylarking or not, no one needs to have to witness anyone falling from that height

PBO 9:44 am
13 May 13
#8

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon. Sadly I’m guessing the mall will be forced to put up barriers to ensure there is zero risk of this ever happening again.

It happens at least once a year and it cannot be stopped because someone in that mindset will always find a way. At least we can take comfort in knowing that they removed the marble and concrete stage which could have knocked the body to messy pieces, Westfield at least thought of the children in this case.

poetix 10:04 am
13 May 13
#9

The Lifeline number is 131114, if anyone reading this finds themself contemplating suicide.

DUB 11:55 am
13 May 13
#10

It may be a time to register a company, specializing in installation of suicide booths, there are real money to be made here, in Canberra, a place full of mental patients and geriatrics. Gold mine!

Tetranitrate 12:19 pm
13 May 13
#11

DUB said :

It may be a time to register a company, specializing in installation of suicide booths, there are real money to be made here, in Canberra, a place full of mental patients and geriatrics. Gold mine!

Best bet would be to get in before the change of government, for obvious reasons.

DUB 12:25 pm
13 May 13
#12

Tetranitrate said :

Best bet would be to get in before the change of government, for obvious reasons.

That is great idea, may even be listed on ASX before the end of the 2013 :-)
I like your strategic thinking, Tetranitrate!

JessP 1:06 pm
13 May 13
#13

poetix said :

The Lifeline number is 131114, if anyone reading this finds themself contemplating suicide.

Thanks Poetix.

To Tetranitrate & DUB) – you should be ashamed of yourselves.

PBO 1:34 pm
13 May 13
#14

JessP said :

poetix said :

The Lifeline number is 131114, if anyone reading this finds themself contemplating suicide.

Thanks Poetix.

To Tetranitrate & DUB) – you should be ashamed of yourselves.

+1, I second that. You should both be ashamed of yourselves for not coming up with something original, although I do like a good Futurama reference. I’ve got a long history of suicide in my family and luckily it skips a generation, hopefully it will just my kids that will kill themselves.

But seriously, suicide is no laughing matter……not even when it is a bunch of clowns trying to gas themselves inside a clown car (although it would be funny as hell to watch but the suicide overtones would get to me eventually as the death of a clown is a sad, sad thing).

I would probably freak right out if I walked in on a clown with both barrels in his mouth, watching them pull the trigger with a stream of confetti and silly string issue forth from where his clown hat used to be……sobering stuff.

I would say that the clown demographic have one of the highest numbers of suicides because they are always under pressure to make everyone happy.

The person sitting right next to you could be a clown and you would never know.

Kt01 1:57 pm
13 May 13
#15

My friend told me about this. They were walking into Myer on the G-floor when it happened – heard the impact and turned around to see him on the ground.

tim_c 2:19 pm
13 May 13
#16

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon….

Maybe he was leaning over the rail for a better look – why does everyone assume suicide?

kumadude 2:36 pm
13 May 13
#17

Were they showing hipster fashion…just asking, could be valid.

Tetranitrate 3:01 pm
13 May 13
#18

tim_c said :

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon….

Maybe he was leaning over the rail for a better look – why does everyone assume suicide?

Mainly because
” – No further information will be provided.” and the lack of media reports.
Tragic accidents get press coverage, suicides or suicide attempts don’t.

JessP said :

To Tetranitrate & DUB) – you should be ashamed of yourselves.

I deserve that.

I was actually going to post earlier on about this but didn’t so will now:
It’s standard practice not to report suicides because it tends to inspire copycats, but at the same time it results in mental illness and suicide remaining out of the public consciousness and the political agenda, meaning that nothing gets done. It’s come up numerous times how inadequate services are (ie: barely existent outside of a crisis and still pretty much useless then), but there’s no real sense of urgency among politicians to actually fix things.
Maybe if the public at large had their noses rubbed in it and people start being put off their dinner when they see on the news what happened at their local shopping centre…

Ben_Dover 3:10 pm
13 May 13
#19

PBO said :

You should both be ashamed of yourselves for not coming up with something original, although I do like a good Futurama reference.

I’ve got a long history of suicide in my family and luckily it skips a generation, hopefully it will just my kids that will kill themselves.

But seriously, suicide is no laughing matter……not even when it is a bunch of clowns trying to gas themselves inside a clown car (although it would be funny as hell to watch but the suicide overtones would get to me eventually as the death of a clown is a sad, sad thing)..

Sybil Fawlty: You seem very jolly, Basil.

Basil Fawlty: Hm?

Sybil Fawlty: You seem very jolly.

Basil Fawlty: Jolly?

Sybil Fawlty: Yes, jolly. Sort of happy.

Basil Fawlty: [with feigned reminiscence] Oh, happy. Yes, I remember that. No, not that I noticed, dear. Well, I’ll report it if it happens, though.

Sybil Fawlty: Well, you look happy to me, Basil.

Basil Fawlty: No, I’m not, dear.

Sybil Fawlty: All that dancing about, singing and rubbing your hands.

Basil Fawlty: No, just my way of getting through the day, dear. The, uh, Samaritans were engaged.

gazket 3:23 pm
13 May 13
#20

At least we can take comfort in knowing that they removed the marble and concrete stage which could have knocked the body to messy pieces, Westfield at least thought of the children in this case.

What…… Westfield’s didn’t think too well. They put the children’s playground right next to the drop zone.

Roundhead89 3:57 pm
13 May 13
#21

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon. Sadly I’m guessing the mall will be forced to put up barriers to ensure there is zero risk of this ever happening again.

A bit like how they had to put high overarching fences on the railings of the Harbour Bridge and almost all other bridges to stop suicide attempts, and how they have had to do the same with roadway overpasses (Adelaide Ave, Hume Hwy, etc) to stop rock throwers.

Mysteryman 4:20 pm
13 May 13
#22

c_c™ said :

SupaSal said :

Westfield said they would fix it then – 9 years later NOTHING!

What exactly do you mean fix it? Put fences and nets everywhere so someone doesn’t top them self? I’m assuming if nothing has changed since then, that the barrier meets standards. You can’t cotton wool the world.

This could be suicide, or it could be something like that groom in Sydney recently who was skylarking on a railing and fell two storeys. Either way, shouldn’t have to sterilise the whole world for 99% of people on the basis 1% will do something bad.

Exactly. There is nothing to “fix”.

PBO 4:29 pm
13 May 13
#23

gazket said :

At least we can take comfort in knowing that they removed the marble and concrete stage which could have knocked the body to messy pieces, Westfield at least thought of the children in this case.

What…… Westfield’s didn’t think too well. They put the children’s playground right next to the drop zone.

Well, If we think about it like we are insurers…..A child has a better chance of surviving the impact of a jumper than a pensioner would and they are softer than a pensioner by a long shot. And depending on what time the jumper chose he could have had his choice of Pensioners (8-11am), Children 1130am-2pm (depending if there is a show on) and then teenage layabouts/the unemployed 2 – 5pm. Maybe I am thinking about this too much?

Mr Evil 5:23 pm
13 May 13
#24

tim_c said :

Rollersk8r said :

Shocking. I heard this happened during a fashion parade this afternoon….

Maybe he was leaning over the rail for a better look – why does everyone assume suicide?

Yeah, leaning over the railing to see if the prices at Coles were “Down, Down, the Prices are Down”?

PBO said :

gazket said :

At least we can take comfort in knowing that they removed the marble and concrete stage which could have knocked the body to messy pieces, Westfield at least thought of the children in this case.

What…… Westfield’s didn’t think too well. They put the children’s playground right next to the drop zone.

Well, If we think about it like we are insurers…..A child has a better chance of surviving the impact of a jumper than a pensioner would and they are softer than a pensioner by a long shot. And depending on what time the jumper chose he could have had his choice of Pensioners (8-11am), Children 1130am-2pm (depending if there is a show on) and then teenage layabouts/the unemployed 2 – 5pm. Maybe I am thinking about this too much?

Better still, put a Krispy Kreme in the drop zone, and jumpers will bounce right back to where they jumped from.

fabforty 5:55 pm
13 May 13
#25

Some of you should feel real shame about your comments.

CoffinRX2 6:35 pm
13 May 13
#26

I was in a store about 10m from the incident when it happened, …. thankfully for me I was facing the other way. …. Didnt really hear anything until Centre Management put a call out for all security to attend the scene.

We saw this person on the ground 10m behind me already seeming to be assessed by bystanders/witnesses for their injuries.

Had no idea of the seriousness of how it happened until I just read this

Postalgeek 9:32 pm
13 May 13
#27

c_c™ said :

SupaSal said :

Westfield said they would fix it then – 9 years later NOTHING!

What exactly do you mean fix it? Put fences and nets everywhere so someone doesn’t top them self? I’m assuming if nothing has changed since then, that the barrier meets standards. You can’t cotton wool the world.

This could be suicide, or it could be something like that groom in Sydney recently who was skylarking on a railing and fell two storeys. Either way, shouldn’t have to sterilise the whole world for 99% of people on the basis 1% will do something bad.

I’m not one for cotton wool, but in this case it’s as much protecting those underneath as it is for the jumpers.

If it’s a hotspot and there is a concentration of pedestrian traffic below, then yes, measures should be taken.

You can’t sterilise the 99% of locations where unpredictable suicides occur, and you can’t stop someone from topping themselves, but you can look at addressing the more popular locations to reduce both intentional and unintentional injury or death.

dazzab 10:15 pm
13 May 13
#28

I’ve always wondered about those railings and glass panels. They may meet safety standards but I don’t see how. They only come up to about my waist and I’m not a tall person. I think it would be quite easy for someone to be accidentally pushed over them. You would think that considering the number of people who have been hurt there that raising the height of the barriers would make sense.

Tooks 8:43 am
14 May 13
#29

Suicide’s funny, hey?

Dilandach 8:49 am
14 May 13
#30

PBO said :

What…… Westfield’s didn’t think too well. They put the children’s playground right next to the drop zone.

The jumpers are the ones primarily to blame and they’re completely selfish. There’s plenty of high ledges in canberra that they could jump from without families or young children having to witness nor be thwarted by medical attention.

None of that was done which means it was a conscience decision to do it in front of people. Doing it to traumatise people gets no sympathy from me.

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