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Increasing motorcycle use to avoid parking fees

By Canfan - 15 April 2014 26

There has apparently been a rise in motorcycle and scooter purchases in the ACT, in a bid to avoid the new parking fees payable in the Parliamentary Circle (say that three times after a few beers…).

At nearly $3000 a year for new parking (as of July 1), I can completely understand this shift, but can’t help but envisage a sea of scooters and motorcycles on our roads, ala Vietnam or Bangkok – all suited and booted.

The changing face of Canberra indeed!

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Increasing motorcycle use to avoid parking fees
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Rollersk8r 8:20 am
16 Apr 14
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I saw the story and thought pffffft! Wow – just like everyone else those geniuses are weighing up their own economic decisions!

And by increase in sales did they mean 0.01% – being the proportion of people working in the area who: (a) don’t have kids to pick up or drop off, (b) won’t ride their bicycle, (c) have no need to pick up shopping on the way home, (d) won’t catch the bus, (e) will tolerate the cold in the winter, (f) are fit and able to ride a motorbike and (g) are happy with the risks of motorbikes??

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dungfungus 9:15 am
16 Apr 14
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Rollersk8r said :

I saw the story and thought pffffft! Wow – just like everyone else those geniuses are weighing up their own economic decisions!

And by increase in sales did they mean 0.01% – being the proportion of people working in the area who: (a) don’t have kids to pick up or drop off, (b) won’t ride their bicycle, (c) have no need to pick up shopping on the way home, (d) won’t catch the bus, (e) will tolerate the cold in the winter, (f) are fit and able to ride a motorbike and (g) are happy with the risks of motorbikes??

These are public servants that work for finance and treasury who are enraged by other public servants taking their “entitlements” away from them.
No further comment needed until we analyse the budget next month.

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p1 11:36 am
16 Apr 14
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As a (kinda) long term rider of a motorcycle in this city, I look forward to the flood of barely ridden second hand bikes once many of these new riders figure out that winter in Canberra isn’t the most pleasant place to ride a bike.

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shirty_bear 1:29 pm
16 Apr 14
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p1 said :

As a (kinda) long term rider of a motorcycle in this city, I look forward to the flood of barely ridden second hand bikes once many of these new riders figure out that winter in Canberra isn’t the most pleasant place to ride a bike.

Mostly mopeds/scooters, I’d reckon … not the sort of thing a seasoned rider is likely to be looking for.

But if the roads fill up with bikes, then great … as a single-user conveyance, they make plenty of sense – less fuel, less road space, better traffic flow. Even if the voluntary taxation is reduced, it’s still a good result.

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jase! 2:54 pm
16 Apr 14
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cue the bitching from “real” riders about “fair weather” riders taking “their” parking spots in 5…4…3…

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switch 3:16 pm
16 Apr 14
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Jakarta, here we come.

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watto23 4:27 pm
16 Apr 14
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yeah the same people complaining about parking cannot seriously be motivated to go pay for a L’s course and do that followed by passing the P’s course and test. It would be too hard for them, easier to complain. I suspect the abundant motorcycle parking may dry up a bit, but I do know several motorcycle riders in the NCA and they are planning to add more, but need to see the impact first. And as they say winter stops many a rider. To think I get called soft for riding a Vespa to work, but rode more in the winter than the summer!

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Innovation 5:54 pm
16 Apr 14
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I’m surprised that, in this electronic era, no-one’s pointed out that motorcyclists could easily be charged for parking also. Number plates can be recorded and checked without having to pay for tickets. What would be an appropriate proportion of $11 per day?

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Sandman 7:06 pm
16 Apr 14
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My wife works in the city. She couldn’t even drive a manual car but 3 years ago she got her bike licence and every day since she’s either ridden the bike or walked. If she needs to do kid pickups she rides home and gets the car. Bike has paid for itself twice over with the fuel, rego and parking savings.

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jasere 9:35 am
17 Apr 14
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Increasing road fatalities all to avoid parking fees.

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NoImRight 9:54 am
17 Apr 14
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jasere said :

Increasing road fatalities all to avoid parking fees.

Something of a leap. Bikes arent inherantly more dangerous. Its often the cars around them. So less cars may equal safer riding. :-)

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davo101 10:12 am
17 Apr 14
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NoImRight said :

Bikes aren’t inherently more dangerous.

Show me a motor bike equipped with air bags, seat belts and stability control then I might agree with you.

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NoImRight 10:25 am
17 Apr 14
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davo101 said :

NoImRight said :

Bikes aren’t inherently more dangerous.

Show me a motor bike equipped with air bags, seat belts and stability control then I might agree with you.

You are confusing primary safety with secondary safety. Id rather avoid an accident than hope doodads keep me safe in the middle of one. Plus you have ignored the rest of my post so changed its context.

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watto23 10:55 am
17 Apr 14
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davo101 said :

NoImRight said :

Bikes aren’t inherently more dangerous.

Show me a motor bike equipped with air bags, seat belts and stability control then I might agree with you.

Actually motorcycle riders are probably safer drivers, because you do go through the extra training and made to realise on a bike if you tailgate you die. OK there are many bad bike riders, just like bad car drivers, but in general the bike riders are better drivers than car drivers overall IMO.

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Tenpoints 11:25 am
17 Apr 14
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watto23 said :

davo101 said :

NoImRight said :

Bikes aren’t inherently more dangerous.

Show me a motor bike equipped with air bags, seat belts and stability control then I might agree with you.

Actually motorcycle riders are probably safer drivers, because you do go through the extra training and made to realise on a bike if you tailgate you die. OK there are many bad bike riders, just like bad car drivers, but in general the bike riders are better drivers than car drivers overall IMO.

I agree with your statement. As a motorcyclist and bicyclist, I take my experience with buffer zones and anticipating hazards and apply it to my driving as well. That probably makes me a safer driver than one without two-wheeled experiences.

However, this does not disprove the argument that bikes are inherently more dangerous. Taking the assumption that we are talking about personal safety not safety of other people here, then yes you are far more at risk of injury on a bike vs in a car.
A collision situation that would be a minor bingle in a car can easily transcend to a critical injury or fatality on a motorcycle, depending on the immediate surrounding environment.
The fact that your immediate surrounding environment in a motorcycle can be anything from smooth ashphalt to moving vehicles, gutters, trees, walls, whatever versus a rigid cage with airbags in a car is what makes motorcycle accidents much more risky on average than car accidents.

I would argue that you’re also more likely to find yourself in an accident situation on a motorbike if one of your wheels loses traction. You can easily go down if either the front or the back skids and then you’re at the discretion of the surrounding environment. Lose traction in a car and you generally can recover it fairly eaily or more to the point, stay upright. This holds at least when driving/riding within the speed limits and dealing with slippery surfaces like water, oil, black ice, gravel or unexpectely off-camber sections.

So yeah, there’s no doubt riding is heaps more dangerous than driving a car and you definitely should think about doing a lot of practical training before you take your trade your cage for a bike. It’s more than dollars on the line when you’re riding a bike.

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