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Is it Idiot Week on the roads?

By aevans - 1 November 2012 190

Is there some sort of driving Idiots convention going on in Canberra at the moment?

I’ve seen 8 P-Plate morons (all different ones) speeding around at about 20 km/h above traffic flow (way above the speed limit); two of them were red plates and three either almost rear-ended someone or swerved across traffic in a dangerous way.

The icing on the cake was some drugged-out tradie in a van that couldn’t keep his lane, stalled the van at some traffic lights, and generally shouldn’t have been on the road.

When I watch this I really wonder what good those stationary white vans do for the community when there are all these morons ripe for the picking.

What’s Your opinion?


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Is it Idiot Week on the roads?
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rhino 5:14 pm
27 Nov 12
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Jim Jones said :

rhino said :

I don’t know if it’s just a specific intersection thing but I haven’t seen anyone run red lights in a long time. Other than speeding up to make it through an orange light that is very orange and goes red very shortly after they cross the line sort of thing. Are you talking about that, or are people going through red lights long after they have gone fully red? Is this at 4am in the morning or something? Generally it’s not possible to go through a red light because the other cars are going through their green and are in the way.

I see a stack – at least one a day. Belconnen Way turning onto the GDE is a real doozy (it’s not uncommon to have a green light, but have to wait for someone who has gunned a very late orange and is coming through a very very very red light), but they’re all over the shop.

It’s always people who see an orange light and fang it to make it through, but end up going through red lights. A three-year-old could tell you that an orange light means ‘slow down there’s a red light coming, stop unless it’s dangerous to do otherwise’, but the current thinking on the road seems to be “Orange = drive as fast as you possibly can to get through.

It’s not ‘the light turned red after I’d passed it’, it’s very much people driving really farking fast through red lights after the orange has run out.

Ah ok. I see what you mean. I think I have had issues merging onto the GDE from belconnen way in the past but I barely ever go that way. I generally don’t mind if it’s just like they gun it (obviously not to ridiculous speeds) and get through the light after it’s been orange for a while if they are long gone by the time the other people get a green. If it is so late that they are actually in the way of the other people with green then it becomes unsafe. This varies by intersection I guess.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that certain intersections of traffic lights have horrible timing. This isn’t anything to do with running the lights really, but I find certain intersections (I can’t recall which ones right now but some on northbourne are bad at times) are pretty shocking at timing. Often it’s peak hour and it’s busy with cars going in all directions but there’s a long long time where everyoen just sits there staring at eachother between each change of the lights. It seems to go on forever and it feels really unproductive. I guess those intersections are extra safe from people running red lights though, because everyone seems to simultaneously have red for many seconds.

I will accelerate up to the speed limit to get through an orange but not if it’s been orange for a while and I’m risking it going red while I’m even close to the line. Generally if you can make it to the other side of the intersection without it going red, you’re fine, I’d say. Everyone freaks out with the red light cameras though and it can be a little dangerous sometimes. They might be a few car lengths away and it just ticks over to orange and they slam on the brakes because nobody really understands what the legal line is for these and nobody wants to risk it.

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Pork Hunt 5:34 pm
27 Nov 12
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I’d like to thank the woman in the small white sedan who held up one lane at the Park way road works and then when she got to the tunnel at the ANU took to the right lane and held people up even more by dawdling. The next right turn is at Duntroon ffs.

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JC 6:18 pm
27 Nov 12
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rhino said :

I will accelerate up to the speed limit to get through an orange but not if it’s been orange for a while and I’m risking it going red while I’m even close to the line. Generally if you can make it to the other side of the intersection without it going red, you’re fine, I’d say. Everyone freaks out with the red light cameras though and it can be a little dangerous sometimes. They might be a few car lengths away and it just ticks over to orange and they slam on the brakes because nobody really understands what the legal line is for these and nobody wants to risk it.

Ummm if you can accelerate up to the speed limit to get through a light on amber, surely you should be able to do what your meant to do and slow the hell down and stop?

As for the comments above about lights there are some and the Belconnen Way and Caswell Drive intersection (incorrectly refered to as the GDE by many) is one such example of where the intersection is so large that the timings between orange and red, and red and green need to be made a few seconds longer. Instead they seem to be the standard 3 seconds. The end result of course is what the poster above said which is even though you are looking at a green yourself there are often cars still coming through. One of the worst intersections I see for this is Northborne turning right onto Cooyong Street. Every day I see at least 2 cars continue through despite the lights having changed to green for the through traffic. Even more ironic when this intersection and in that direction has a red light camera, but clearly for the through traffic not turning.

As for idiot of the day, well I reckon that goes to the driver of the white Falcon on Ginninderra Drive this morning at around 7:45 approaching Coulter Drive. The guy was sitting in the right hand lane doing around 65km (clearly he, like many don’t notice the keep left unless overtaking sign on this road which, despite it being an 80km/h zone overrides the normal 90km/h rule). I went to the left lane to overtake him and would have made it to and through the merge before the lake with plenty of room to spare, but oh no he decides it is now time to speed up to stop me doing it. Suffice to say I won out, only to hear him toot and give me the bird. After the merge he then slowed back down.

Now if your reading, really you were in the RH lane doing significantly less than the speed limit and as proved by the fact I could go left so could you. In no way shape of form did I menace you, I just changed lanes and was driving at the speed limit and would have been well past you and would not have inconvenienced you in any way shape of form. So why speed up like that?

And before anyone shoots me down in flames for being in the right hand lane myself, the reason I was there is because I overtook a dick head who turned left out of Copland Drive right in front of me, not realising that when you turn left you really need to give way to cars on the road you are turning onto, especially when it is an 80 zone and you are doing umm about 30-40 as you come around the corner. So 2nd idiot of the day award to you and a warning, be careful doing that, fortunately there was nothing directly in the RH lane so I could change otherwise I would have come close to hitting you.

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Deref 8:31 pm
27 Nov 12
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Pork Hunt said :

I have entertained the idea of buying one of those aerosol type air horns and pointing that out the window at texting tools.

Rocket propelled grenade launchers are the preferred weapon of choice for use against texters,

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KB1971 9:33 pm
27 Nov 12
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Deref said :

Pork Hunt said :

I have entertained the idea of buying one of those aerosol type air horns and pointing that out the window at texting tools.

Rocket propelled grenade launchers are the preferred weapon of choice for use against texters,

So, the Hamas leader was texting while he was driving?

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rhino 12:00 pm
29 Nov 12
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JC said :

rhino said :

I will accelerate up to the speed limit to get through an orange but not if it’s been orange for a while and I’m risking it going red while I’m even close to the line. Generally if you can make it to the other side of the intersection without it going red, you’re fine, I’d say. Everyone freaks out with the red light cameras though and it can be a little dangerous sometimes. They might be a few car lengths away and it just ticks over to orange and they slam on the brakes because nobody really understands what the legal line is for these and nobody wants to risk it.

Ummm if you can accelerate up to the speed limit to get through a light on amber, surely you should be able to do what your meant to do and slow the hell down and stop?

I frankly don’t see the point. You are allowed to go through an orange if it’s that close, and more importantly it’s safe to do so. That’s why they have the orange instead of just the red. I’m not going to slam on the brakes and possibly force others to do the same when I’m likely to be 500 away by the time the other people have their lights turn green. That’s hardly more safe and just costs brakes, and time and fuel and slows down the flow of traffic. It’s dangerous if two people are driving near eachother at the same time though but there’s line. Generally if you can make it through the orange without risking it going red, then you are not going to collide with or slow down people going the other way when they get a green.

I think this is the reason we have a lot of roundabouts though, because you don’t have to wait and have everyone stopped dead and then wait their turn to start accelerating off the line again. There’s just a constant flow of traffic narrowly missing eachother really but in a controlled way. It just becomes an issue if there’s a massive flow in one direction and someone going the other way can’t find a gap to get through. Also, it means everyoen has to slow down a bit to make it around the roundabout, whereas if you have a green light you don’t have to obviously. Still, I wonder how roundabouts would go on northborne instead of traffic lights for a few of the intersections.

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switch 12:11 pm
29 Nov 12
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rhino said :

I think this is the reason we have a lot of roundabouts though, because you don’t have to wait and have everyone stopped dead and then wait their turn to start accelerating off the line again. There’s just a constant flow of traffic narrowly missing eachother really but in a controlled way.

If only roundabouts actually worked like this…

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DoityBoid 12:25 pm
29 Nov 12
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I just don’t understand the mentality of impatient drivers.
On a rush to get to work? Unless you’re running late, don’t hurry.

On a rush to get home? To relax? It’s a bit ironic stressing yourself out, driving like an idiot, getting maybe 2 cars in front, in the peak hour traffic, so you can get home and relax.

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 12:42 pm
29 Nov 12
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rhino said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

rhino said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

460cixy said :

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Reminds me of almost everyday that I get tailgated and I just keep on slowing down until they stop doing it. Slowest I have got to is 30 in a 80 zone(hindmarsh stretch up the hill). Peeps soon learn not to tail gate this way.

And again you prove your an a grade dick

Explain.

Easy to explain. You are being an A-grade dick by slowing down to 30kph in an 80kph zone to be spiteful of someone who wanted to go fast in the fast lane while you were going slow in the fast lane. That is down right dangerous. It’s common for people to be going 20 over in the fast lane and you are going 50kph under. That’s a 70kph difference mostly attribuatable to your own arrogance and very likely to cause a collision if there is not a decent line of sight ahead on the road for some reason.

No Einstein, doing the speed limit in the right lane is not going slow. In fact it’s being safe to slow down if someone is tailgating you. It’s going to lessen the impact of any collision the tailgater may cause.

Btw, there is no such thing as a *fast lane* in this town.

If you read my comment or your own before that, you would know that we are talking about going 30kph in the right lane which is clearly one of the most dangerous things done in this thread. And as I said “That’s a 70kph difference mostly attributable to your own arrogance and very likely to cause a collision if there is not a decent line of sight ahead on the road for some reason”

Slowing down to stop a tailgater tailgating is far less dangerous than tailgating.

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 12:43 pm
29 Nov 12
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farq said :

I work with somebody who like CGN, likes to be an ass and block the overtaking lane (A Divine Righter). Last year he did it to wrong person and ended up being dragged out of his car at the lights and getting a fat lip and black eye for his troubles.

I’m not suprised. If you go around pissing people off on purpose, one day you will encounter someone who likes to solves things with violence.

I dont believe that anyone is going to get violent with me just for being safe.

Its not about pissing peeps of either, its about safety.

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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd 12:54 pm
29 Nov 12
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DoityBoid said :

I just don’t understand the mentality of impatient drivers.
On a rush to get to work? Unless you’re running late, don’t hurry.

On a rush to get home? To relax? It’s a bit ironic stressing yourself out, driving like an idiot, getting maybe 2 cars in front, in the peak hour traffic, so you can get home and relax.

Its even more funny when you see people driving like total penises, speeding, forcing themselves into other lanes etc etc and then you pull up next to them at evey set of traffic lights.

Its the most lol when you see the same penises pulled over by a police 😀

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JC 12:56 pm
29 Nov 12
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rhino said :

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I frankly don’t see the point. You are allowed to go through an orange if it’s that close, and more importantly it’s safe to do so. That’s why they have the orange instead of just the red. I’m not going to slam on the brakes and possibly force others to do the same when I’m likely to be 500 away by the time the other people have their lights turn green. That’s hardly more safe and just costs brakes, and time and fuel and slows down the flow of traffic. It’s dangerous if two people are driving near eachother at the same time though but there’s line. Generally if you can make it through the orange without risking it going red, then you are not going to collide with or slow down people going the other way when they get a green.

I didn’t say slam the brakes on, but clearly if you need to accelerate to get through on an amber, which is what YOU said then clearly you were not THAT close and you should be able to stop (without slaming the brakes on).

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Spiral 1:00 pm
29 Nov 12
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DoityBoid said :

I just don’t understand the mentality of impatient drivers.
On a rush to get to work? Unless you’re running late, don’t hurry.

On a rush to get home? To relax? It’s a bit ironic stressing yourself out, driving like an idiot, getting maybe 2 cars in front, in the peak hour traffic, so you can get home and relax.

Some people have hectic lives that require them to get from point A to point B in a short period of time.

For example: I have a daughter who finished ballet at 4:45 (in theory but usually the class runs late) and then attends Girl Guides at 5. She has been doing ballet for 7 years and Guides for 2 years. Each year her ballet classes have been at different times. This year it happens to be at an awkward time.

Having some moron dawdle along at a consistent 10kph below the speed limit does not help.

I’m not justifying speeding or rude driving, just pointing out that some people do have a valid reason for being in a hurry and consider people who just dawdle along for no good reason as being self centred, inconsiderate wankers.

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JC 1:01 pm
29 Nov 12
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Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

farq said :

I work with somebody who like CGN, likes to be an ass and block the overtaking lane (A Divine Righter). Last year he did it to wrong person and ended up being dragged out of his car at the lights and getting a fat lip and black eye for his troubles.

I’m not suprised. If you go around pissing people off on purpose, one day you will encounter someone who likes to solves things with violence.

I dont believe that anyone is going to get violent with me just for being safe.

Its not about pissing peeps of either, its about safety.

Being safe is one thing, but going out of your way to piss others off to make a point is another. Take for example my post above where I was overtaking a car before a merge. At the speeds we were going what I was doing would have been 100% safe and I would have made it through the merge without effecting the other vehicle in any way shape or form. But Mr Safe doing 70km/h in the right hand lane decided that speeding up to piss me off was a good way to teach me a lesson.

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MightyJoe 1:02 pm
29 Nov 12
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Thanks to the Passat V6E driver this morning who dawdled in the slip lane off the GDE onto the Barton highway (at 60km/h) and then got all toey when I decided to over take after the full line – cut in front of me, slammed his brakes on and then proceeded to block my left hand overtake by swerving in front of my car…
Next time you do that to someone, I hope its to the guy that likes giving fat lips and black eyes (as read above).. you sure deserved it this morning – ya douche.

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