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Katy seeks the best of the best of the best

By 18 December 2008 117

Please send queries on the status of International Men’s Day and associated awards to the MLA of your choice

    The Minster for Women, Katy Gallagher recently opened nominations for 2009 ACT International Women’s Day Awards. The ACT International Women’s Day Awards recognise the outstanding achievements of women in the ACT community.

    The Awards will be presented by the ACT Minister for Women, as part of 2009 International Women’s Day celebrations in March 2009.

    Nominations are encouraged for women in the following Award categories:

    ¨ Women’s Award open to all women in the ACT. This award acknowledges and celebrates the contribution and achievements of an individual woman.

    – Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Women’s Awards open to an Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander individual or team.

    – Community Award recognises a team or organisation that has made a substantial contribution to improving the quality of life for women in the ACT.

    Information and nomination forms are available from the ACT Office for Women, Department of Disability, Housing and Community Services at www.women.act.gov.au or by phoning Michelle 6205 0515.

    Nomination close on Monday 12 January 2009.

<Let the gender wars recommence . . .

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117 Responses to Katy seeks the best of the best of the best
#1
VYBerlinaV8_the_one_11:27 am, 18 Dec 08

Yep, good to see men getting recognised for the work they do. As long as we continue to have gender specific focus like this, there will never be real equality.

#2
justbands11:27 am, 18 Dec 08

> Please send queries on the status of International Men’s Day and associated awards to the MLA of your choice

I’ll write to the ACT Minister for Men! ;-)

#3
peterh11:34 am, 18 Dec 08

who is?

#4
justbands11:34 am, 18 Dec 08

> who is?

Exactly!

#5
sepi11:35 am, 18 Dec 08

The road to equality is not a straight line. You have to start somewhere. With the current lack of women in high places to act as role models for future generations, it is still worth focusing on successful women, to show young girls what they too could achieve in the future.

It spins me out that any focus on women offends men so much. To me it would highlight how annoying gender based inequality is, and give men some sympathy for women’s cause.

#6
PsydFX11:41 am, 18 Dec 08

sepi said :

The road to equality is not a straight line. You have to start somewhere. With the current lack of women in high places to act as role models for future generations, it is still worth focusing on successful women, to show young girls what they too could achieve in the future.

It spins me out that any focus on women offends men so much. To me it would highlight how annoying gender based inequality is, and give men some sympathy for women’s cause.

If there were a Minister for Men, but not a Minister for Women, would you have objections?

#7
sepi11:44 am, 18 Dec 08

I would lobby an MLA not spack on a website.

What would you like your minister for men to do?

#8
justbands11:45 am, 18 Dec 08

> With the current lack of women in high places to act as role models for future generations

I don’t agree with that, it doesn’t fit with my experience. I’ve worked for more female bosses than male (in what is apparently a male dominated industry!). I reckon Julia Gillard for one would argue that she’s in a pretty high place….as would our current head of state.

Who’s showing young boys what they could achieve in the future? You know…boys who are now consistently falling behind girls in school, boys who are suiciding in record numbers, boys who are turning to crime, boys who have grown up without fathers, etc.

#9
dexi11:47 am, 18 Dec 08

“What would you like your minister for men to do?”

Shut up and do as his told.

He could also mow JB lawn.

#10
sepi11:58 am, 18 Dec 08

Your experience of working for female bosses does not correlate with the reality that something like only 20% of management is women. I realise this is different in some APS departments, but it is not the case Australia wide, particularly in business and industry.

Julia Gillard is a fantastic example, however a pretty new one – and I don’t think one highly successful women is enough for us to shrug our shoulders and say equality is here.

#11
PsydFX11:58 am, 18 Dec 08

sepi said :

I would lobby an MLA not spack on a website.

What would you like your minister for men to do?

You’re always “spacking” on this website with your pro-feminist views, why shouldn’t someone start banging on about an inequality against men?

I am not saying that we want or need a Minister for Men, what I do think – to promote equality, that we should have a Minister for People, that way we aren’t segregating the sexes.

#12
Jim Jones12:00 pm, 18 Dec 08

“I don’t agree with that, it doesn’t fit with my experience.”

Anecdotes are not evidence.

There’s a lot of information still out there that shows that women get paid less than men, have a significantly harder time reaching positions of power and responsibility, and are systemically excluded from a number of different employment areas.

Julia Gillard might be in a position of power in this country, but how many female Australian Prime Ministers can you name? Being able to point to a woman in a powerful position who sticks out precisly she is a rarity doesn’t really help your case.

Presumably the people on this site who don’t think that ‘gender specific’ portfolios are necessary also feel that there shouldn’t be specific portfolios dealing with aboriginal or multicultural issues either.

#13
Jim Jones12:01 pm, 18 Dec 08

“why shouldn’t someone start banging on about an inequality against men”

What inequality against men?

#14
Duke12:04 pm, 18 Dec 08

justbands – you missed a few: men are more likely to be homeless, victims of crime, in cases of divorce often lose custody of their kids in favour of the mother, suffer higher rates of depression and disease, incur higher rates of incarceration.

Now if they same gusto can be applied to solving men’s social issues as is being used to highlight the achievement of women in the workplace, we’d be off to a good start.

#15
dexi12:06 pm, 18 Dec 08

That’s right Jim, and when are you going to mow the lawn.

#16
Jim Jones12:07 pm, 18 Dec 08

dexi said :

That’s right Jim, and when are you going to mow the lawn.

My (pregnant) missus has already done it.

#17
astrojax12:19 pm, 18 Dec 08

what, chains from the kitchen sink that long??

If there were a Minister for Men, but not a Minister for Women, would you have objections?

yes, psydfx, i think sepi would still have problems for all the reasons articulated in the post. to what inequality against men are you referring? the equality of the sexes is acheived through engaging with the least powerful sectors of a society and promoting them until they are not required – which, for women [and indigenous australians, etc] is not yet.

#18
peterh12:22 pm, 18 Dec 08

Good to see that the women of australia have a chance to excel and be recognised.

Personally, I really don’t care. the winners are almost always professional people, academics, etc.

The real women out there who just get on with their lives and don’t have the time to worry about the International women’s day – they have far too much on their plates with the kids if they are a stay at home mum, or work if they aren’t, that they are the same as most men: They want to make money, pay bills, feed the family, have a house and a form of transport, and get to enjoy life.

an International day for women who are mothers is already in the calendar. It is called Mother’s Day. And strangely, there is a Father’s Day as well. So why not an International Men’s Day?

#19
Mr Evil12:27 pm, 18 Dec 08

justbands said :

> Please send queries on the status of International Men’s Day and associated awards to the MLA of your choice

I’ll write to the ACT Minister for Men! ;-)

Andrew Barr? I’ve heard he’s really into men…..

#20
dexi12:30 pm, 18 Dec 08

Ive heard that sepi has the following opinions that need to be heard. Are you listening Phs FX. Pay attention now.

Sepi says………(sorry sepi Im bad)

“Phys FX – you keep banging on about the one inequality against men that you have identified (a minister for women), even though you don’t actually want or need a minister for men. So I’m not sure what your point is.

And I’ll keep banging on about the many and varied inequalities against women that exist.”

#21
caf12:34 pm, 18 Dec 08

The day when a Minister for Women is an anachronism is approaching, but it hasn’t arrived yet.

#22
Mr Evil12:35 pm, 18 Dec 08

Women have the right to remain silent…….

#23
caf12:36 pm, 18 Dec 08

Mr Evil: Are you going for the Pandy Award for Obsession With Andrew Barr’s Private Life?

#24
Mr Evil12:41 pm, 18 Dec 08

Nah, I could never compete with Pandy! :)

#25
Pommy bastard12:45 pm, 18 Dec 08
#26
PsydFX12:56 pm, 18 Dec 08

dexi said :

Ive heard that sepi has the following opinions that need to be heard. Are you listening Phs FX. Pay attention now.

Sepi says………(sorry sepi Im bad)

“Phys FX – you keep banging on about the one inequality against men that you have identified (a minister for women), even though you don’t actually want or need a minister for men. So I’m not sure what your point is.

And I’ll keep banging on about the many and varied inequalities against women that exist.”

That made about as much sense as sign language through a megaphone.

If you took the time to read, you may have noticed that my comments are in keeping with the posted topic regarding the Minister for Women, I am not suggesting that this is the only inequality Men face.

As for this needing a Minister crap, neither sex needs their own Minister, a non-gender biased Minister equally representing both sexes is a much better way of achieving equality.

#27
Pommy bastard1:07 pm, 18 Dec 08

Jim Jones said :

“I don’t agree with that, it doesn’t fit with my experience.”

There’s a lot of information still out there that shows that women get paid less than men, have a significantly harder time reaching positions of power and responsibility, and are systemically excluded from a number of different employment areas.

I hear this quite alot, but I’ve yet to work in a job, or indeed a company or organisation which pays women less than men.

Do you have an example?

#28
Pommy bastard1:07 pm, 18 Dec 08

Oh dear “a lot”, not “alot”.

#29
peterh1:12 pm, 18 Dec 08

“Best of the best of the best, sir!” “With honors.” “Yeah, he’s just really excited and he has no clue why we’re here.”

Will our discussion make an International men’s day appear? no chance. what about an International Person’s day??

#30
mutley1:17 pm, 18 Dec 08

a woman in a powerful position who sticks out precisly she is a rarity doesn’t really help your case.

I thought it was because she was a ranga.

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