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Kowen trail bike bandits

By 4 February 2013 17

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ACT Policing is investigating an incident at Kowen Forest where a boundary fence was cut by two men riding trail bikes.

About 1.50pm last Tuesday (January 29), two men were captured on camera cutting the boundary fence at Kowen Forest. Incidents such as these are an ongoing threat to livestock on the property.

One of the men was riding a blue Yamaha YZ 250 F while the other was riding a yellow Suzuki RMZ 250 F.

The second man was wearing a “One Industries” brand blue and white top with matching pants and an O’Neal helmet.

This is the fourth time in recent months where the fence has been cut. In October last year there was over 100 metres of damaged fenceline as the intruders forced their way onto private property.

Police believe the same offenders are responsible for damage caused in November and December last year based on the footage from the incidents.

Police ask that anyone who may have witnessed these incidents, or who may know who these two men depicted are, to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

[Courtesy ACT Policing]

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17 Responses to Kowen trail bike bandits
#1
MERC6005:52 pm, 04 Feb 13

Good to see cctv being used. Were they set up by the land owner ?

#2
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd8:59 pm, 04 Feb 13

MERC600 said :

Good to see cctv being used. Were they set up by the land owner ?

Yep. But I think they need to go one step further. If its private land then put down some serious spikes down all along that fence line. Pop some tyres and hopefully stab some feet. Put up signs warning about rabbit or fox spikes or something to legally cover your ass.

#3
LSWCHP9:22 pm, 04 Feb 13

Coming from a rural family I understand what a crappy thing this is. I find it hard to believe that people would do something so selfish simply for their bike riding entertainment.

I wonder how many of those specific bikes there are in the ACT? I wonder how much effort would be required to check for those that match the colour of the bikes in the footage? And perhaps look for and O’Neal helmet as well?

Hopefully it won’t be long before these arsehats are in front of the beak.

#4
G-Fresh9:33 am, 05 Feb 13

LSWCHP said :

I wonder how many of those specific bikes there are in the ACT? I wonder how much effort would be required to check for those that match the colour of the bikes in the footage? And perhaps look for and O’Neal helmet as well?

lol good luck

#5
Postalgeek9:57 am, 05 Feb 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

MERC600 said :

Good to see cctv being used. Were they set up by the land owner ?

Yep. But I think they need to go one step further. If its private land then put down some serious spikes down all along that fence line. Pop some tyres and hopefully stab some feet. Put up signs warning about rabbit or fox spikes or something to legally cover your ass.

Except that sheep and cattle aren’t renowned for their ability to read warnings and you might manage to maim your own stock. But I understand the sentiment.

LSWCHP said :

Coming from a rural family I understand what a crappy thing this is. I find it hard to believe that people would do something so selfish simply for their bike riding entertainment….Hopefully it won’t be long before these arsehats are in front of the beak.

+1

#6
Cheap10:10 am, 05 Feb 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

MERC600 said :

Good to see cctv being used. Were they set up by the land owner ?

Yep. But I think they need to go one step further. If its private land then put down some serious spikes down all along that fence line. Pop some tyres and hopefully stab some feet. Put up signs warning about rabbit or fox spikes or something to legally cover your ass.

Nice idea, but you’ve gotta remember we’re talking about livestock, I don’t think it would feel very nice for a cow to step on a bunch of spikes :P

Personally I’d electrify the fence

#7
Br1anL10:54 am, 05 Feb 13

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

MERC600 said :

Good to see cctv being used. Were they set up by the land owner ?

Yep. But I think they need to go one step further. If its private land then put down some serious spikes down all along that fence line. Pop some tyres and hopefully stab some feet. Put up signs warning about rabbit or fox spikes or something to legally cover your ass.

Are you seriously entertaining the idea that two wrongs make a right? What the land owner and police have done is the right way to go about it. Let the courts deal with it, like every other crime, otherwise you are no better than they are.

(note: I must disclose that I am a trail biker and generally do the right thing, and I DO NOT condone what these people have done – they give us all a bad name)

#8
kumadude11:08 am, 05 Feb 13

opencv with the cam, triggering an arduino controlled shotgun: arduino sentry gun.

#9
MsCheeky11:09 am, 05 Feb 13

I have a mate who is a farmer. He found bikes on his property where they had cut his fence. He put a screwdriver into one tire on each of the bikes, to immobilise them, then rang the cops. Unfortunately, they wouldn’t come because he’s an hour out of Cooma and it was too much effort for what they saw as a relatively minor offence. My mate saw it differently, because he has cattle on the property. I guess he had some rough justice. And no, he doesn’t wander the streets of Narrabundah at night!

I think this is a dog act, and I hope these guys get caught.

#10
kumadude11:11 am, 05 Feb 13

(note: I must disclose that I am a trail biker and generally do the right thing, and I DO NOT condone what these people have done – they give us all a bad name)

You either do the right thing or not…no grey areas.

Secondly: opencv with the cam (facial tracking) triggering an arduino controlled shot gun, i.e. arduino sentry gun.

Lastly: laws are there for after the fact. They do not actually stop the harm occurring. People disappear on large properties…ya just have to accept we are still animals and get on with the job.

#11
cynical_rendering12:05 pm, 05 Feb 13

kumadude said :

opencv with the cam, triggering an arduino controlled shotgun: arduino sentry gun.

You mean a auto sentry weapon? It may have seen fanciful when this film was made, but well within the realms of possibility today…

#12
Henry8212:06 pm, 05 Feb 13

LSWCHP said :

I wonder how many of those specific bikes there are in the ACT?

Most dirtbikes wouldn’t be road registered

#13
Br1anL12:09 pm, 05 Feb 13

Br1anL said :

You either do the right thing or not…no grey areas.

I didn’t want to make a ridiculous claim that I am perfect as nobody is. Sure I have sped over the 40km speed limit in state forests but i have never partaken in such blatant criminal damage. So whilst the law is black and white, the crime or offence is where the difference lies. These guys are criminals who have caused criminal damage and that is not condoned by the majority of the riding community.

#14
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd1:36 pm, 05 Feb 13

Br1anL said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

MERC600 said :

Good to see cctv being used. Were they set up by the land owner ?

Yep. But I think they need to go one step further. If its private land then put down some serious spikes down all along that fence line. Pop some tyres and hopefully stab some feet. Put up signs warning about rabbit or fox spikes or something to legally cover your ass.

Are you seriously entertaining the idea that two wrongs make a right? What the land owner and police have done is the right way to go about it. Let the courts deal with it, like every other crime, otherwise you are no better than they are.

(note: I must disclose that I am a trail biker and generally do the right thing, and I DO NOT condone what these people have done – they give us all a bad name)

It’s no different than putting glass on a brick wall or putting up spiked fence to stop peeps from jumping over.
It’s not a wrong when it’s your own property and you are trying to stop maggots from ruining your stuff.

Now if op found out who it was and did what I suggested on the scums property, that would be a issue.

Also point is moot, as others pointed out the livestock issue.

#15
kumadude2:54 pm, 05 Feb 13

kumadude said :

kumadude said :

You either do the right thing or not…no grey areas.

I didn’t want to make a ridiculous claim that I am perfect as nobody is. Sure I have sped over the 40km speed limit in state forests but i have never partaken in such blatant criminal damage. So whilst the law is black and white, the crime or offence is where the difference lies. These guys are criminals who have caused criminal damage and that is not condoned by the majority of the riding community.

dude, it is not hard to get a grip on: discipline is not location bound, it is applied to every situation. You either follow the law or you are a criminal: though you have not been caught yet.

When you come around a corner and kill a kid walking with their parents through Kowen will you say you ‘generally’ follow the law?

#16
p13:46 pm, 05 Feb 13

Br1anL said :

Sure I have sped over the 40km speed limit in state forests but i have never partaken in such blatant criminal damage.

I thought the state limit in NSW was 100km/h?

#17
EvanJames4:20 pm, 05 Feb 13

The fvckers do it all the time, any reserve or private property, they butcher the fencing so they can ride their crap-bikes. Quangers council has been reduced to dumping rocks along the fences to stop them… property owner between Ridgeway and Weetalaba has had to do teh same thing, you’ll notice. Scumbags. (the bike riders that is).

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