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Landmark Cafe to Canberra; We don’t want your business.

By 14 August 2012 116

I went along to the Equal Marriage rally in Canberra today to support my son who I am quite proud of. After putting up with me for years he came out and in many ways, opened my mind to the many human rights issues that diverse people face. While he want off to do his thing, I want to sit down and watch. To my annoyance, shortly after I  sat down, the staff at the nearby Landmark Cafe turned up their music to industrial levels in an obvious effort to drown out the rally. That was just the start of their obnoxious behavior. When people from the rally, including myself went to buy a coffee there, we were told “Go away.” and “We don’t want your business.” by the young male staffer there.

Mindful of the campaign urging real heros to walk away, I did, taking my money with me.

The same staffer continued to be obnoxious throughout the rally. When it finished, a member or the rally want to complain but was called a fag. A fight almost ensued, with the staffer from the cafe having to be held back. As my son would say “What a tool!”

Well their message to me was clear,they don’t want my business, they don’t want my son’s business, nor the business of our friends or associates. Nor for that matter do they seem to want anyone’s business judging from that behavior and their statements.

I see there is already an article about this at the Canberra Times.

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116 Responses to Landmark Cafe to Canberra; We don’t want your business.
#1
Cheap11:12 am, 14 Aug 12

Added to the list of places I will never go.

#2
Muttsybignuts11:31 am, 14 Aug 12

It’s not as if they are the only option around that area. I can simply walk a few metres in any direction and i’m sure I’ll find another joint to buy coffee that doesn’t pick and choose whose money they take.
Or, with a bit more brevity, f*ck em.

#3
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:37 am, 14 Aug 12

so sad that there are still so many people like this.

also means their buisness will possibly go broke when everyone hears about this.

#4
FXST0111:41 am, 14 Aug 12

Storm in a teacup.

#5
Here_and_Now11:47 am, 14 Aug 12

Have RA (or any other journalistic types) approached Landmark for a statement or response?

Not that I think this behaviour can be excused if it’s as people describe, but it’d be interesting to see what they have to say.

#6
Grail11:48 am, 14 Aug 12

One incident is enough to get on your blacklist? “Bigot” does not even begin to describe your attitude. 1337haxor’s post omits important details about the altercation, such as the speaker giving the bird to the waiter along with a shouting argument.

Anyone who has “blacklisted” this establishment for one incident without allowing time for an apology needs to seriously look at what a mockery they are making of themselves and pro-equality sentiment in Canberra. I do not want to be associated with such redneck behaviour as picking a fight with a homophobe in a public place, or publicly announcing a blacklisting of a café you were never going to visit anyway.

This behaviour is not acceptable in civilised society.

Sure, go ahead and discuss the incident and tell us how shocking was the behaviour of both parties involved. Tell us your side of the story. Then wait for Landmark to come back with an apology or other statement. Where is the request for Landmark to comment? Where is the patience usually allowed for preparation of an apology?

In related news, a bunch of knee-jerk reactions from indie authors got LendInk shut down. The capacity for people to react impulsively against their own interests is astounding.

#7
colourful sydney rac11:51 am, 14 Aug 12

looks like this is starting to erupt on their facebook page.

#8
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd11:59 am, 14 Aug 12

Grail said :

One incident is enough to get on your blacklist? “Bigot” does not even begin to describe your attitude. 1337haxor’s post omits important details about the altercation, such as the speaker giving the bird to the waiter along with a shouting argument.

Anyone who has “blacklisted” this establishment for one incident without allowing time for an apology needs to seriously look at what a mockery they are making of themselves and pro-equality sentiment in Canberra. I do not want to be associated with such redneck behaviour as picking a fight with a homophobe in a public place, or publicly announcing a blacklisting of a café you were never going to visit anyway.

This behaviour is not acceptable in civilised society.

Sure, go ahead and discuss the incident and tell us how shocking was the behaviour of both parties involved. Tell us your side of the story. Then wait for Landmark to come back with an apology or other statement. Where is the request for Landmark to comment? Where is the patience usually allowed for preparation of an apology?

In related news, a bunch of knee-jerk reactions from indie authors got LendInk shut down. The capacity for people to react impulsively against their own interests is astounding.

Sticking your finger up at a bigot is not a problem. its infact its incredibly civilised.

There is no apology that can be given for the cafes behaviour though. Why would you try to defend them?

#9
SnapperJack12:10 pm, 14 Aug 12

So a few people at a gay marriage rally won’t be patronising Landmark Cafe. That leaves 350,000 Canberrans who probably will. Chick-Fil-A this ain’t.

#10
ToastFliesRED12:16 pm, 14 Aug 12

I support the rally and I support 1337Hax0r’s response to walk away

But after many years of dealing with complaints long ago now I am also a proponent of the perspective best exemplified to me in the quote by the character John Sheridan in the TV Series Babylon 5 “understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth”

#11
shutupmeg12:24 pm, 14 Aug 12

I was initially keen to try out this new cafe as I’m happy to support local business that is just starting up. However, I will not support a cafe that presents such homophobic tendencies and will be telling all my friends about what happened at the rally.

#12
Gantz12:49 pm, 14 Aug 12

Grail said :

One incident is enough to get on your blacklist? “Bigot” does not even begin to describe your attitude. 1337haxor’s post omits important details about the altercation, such as the speaker giving the bird to the waiter along with a shouting argument.

Anyone who has “blacklisted” this establishment for one incident without allowing time for an apology needs to seriously look at what a mockery they are making of themselves and pro-equality sentiment in Canberra. I do not want to be associated with such redneck behaviour as picking a fight with a homophobe in a public place, or publicly announcing a blacklisting of a café you were never going to visit anyway.

This behaviour is not acceptable in civilised society.

Sure, go ahead and discuss the incident and tell us how shocking was the behaviour of both parties involved. Tell us your side of the story. Then wait for Landmark to come back with an apology or other statement. Where is the request for Landmark to comment? Where is the patience usually allowed for preparation of an apology?

In related news, a bunch of knee-jerk reactions from indie authors got LendInk shut down. The capacity for people to react impulsively against their own interests is astounding.

They were quite quick to jump on RA when someone had mentioned their bad service, almost immediately.

Now with the mention of what is occurring on the Facebook page, it’s safe to assume they stand by their remarks, actions and attitudes of the day.

#13
Phill12:58 pm, 14 Aug 12

There was two people from the cafe involved in the kerfuffle. The young staffer and the guy who I assume was the owner.

After a guy went up to complain at the end of the rally it quickly turned to yelling and the guy I assume was the owner jumped the counter, knocking a glass bottle that was sitting on the counter over in the process. The young staffer also came out.

The police attended after most people had left the rally. No idea what action, if any, was taken by them.

#14
bd841:10 pm, 14 Aug 12

It sounds like it’s a case of he said, he said..

I’m sure both parties were both being loud, obnoxious and riding on their high horses. I doubt there will be either party in the right, so they should just get off their horse and walk off to get on with their lives.

#15
VYBerlinaV8_is_back1:16 pm, 14 Aug 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Sticking your finger up at a bigot is not a problem.

As long as you’re happy to sink to their level, it’s completely fine.

#16
ToastFliesRED1:27 pm, 14 Aug 12

Sure ok they’ve not replied at all, well maybe take a look at the front page picture in today’s CT which does not appear in the version I have just viewed online but their comment is cited in the online article here: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/protest-leads-to-complaint-over-cafe-20120813-24582.html
Not defending them but as per my comment #10 there is more than one side here

#17
PBO1:31 pm, 14 Aug 12

VYBerlinaV8_is_back said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Sticking your finger up at a bigot is not a problem.

As long as you’re happy to sink to their level, it’s completely fine.

At least it didnt get too physical, I had a friend in a similar situation and he ended up suffering from a gaybite which got infected. He could have lost his arm as his body started to reject the limb because it clashed with the rest and made him look fat in jeans (dont ask me how it works).

#18
fromthecapital1:34 pm, 14 Aug 12

They have commented on their window…

#19
Mysteryman1:47 pm, 14 Aug 12

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Grail said :

One incident is enough to get on your blacklist? “Bigot” does not even begin to describe your attitude. 1337haxor’s post omits important details about the altercation, such as the speaker giving the bird to the waiter along with a shouting argument.

Anyone who has “blacklisted” this establishment for one incident without allowing time for an apology needs to seriously look at what a mockery they are making of themselves and pro-equality sentiment in Canberra. I do not want to be associated with such redneck behaviour as picking a fight with a homophobe in a public place, or publicly announcing a blacklisting of a café you were never going to visit anyway.

This behaviour is not acceptable in civilised society.

Sure, go ahead and discuss the incident and tell us how shocking was the behaviour of both parties involved. Tell us your side of the story. Then wait for Landmark to come back with an apology or other statement. Where is the request for Landmark to comment? Where is the patience usually allowed for preparation of an apology?

In related news, a bunch of knee-jerk reactions from indie authors got LendInk shut down. The capacity for people to react impulsively against their own interests is astounding.

Sticking your finger up at a bigot is not a problem. its infact its incredibly civilised.

There is no apology that can be given for the cafes behaviour though. Why would you try to defend them?

Do you make a habit of reacting without even considering the evidence? You don’t even know the truth about what happened, beyond a single post from someone, and here you are blacklisting, boycotting, and generally making a huge beat up of the issue. Very intelligent.

ToastFliesRED said :

But after many years of dealing with complaints long ago now I am also a proponent of the perspective best exemplified to me in the quote by the character John Sheridan in the TV Series Babylon 5 “understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth”

THIS.

#20
Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd1:58 pm, 14 Aug 12

Mysteryman said :

Comic_and_Gamer_Nerd said :

Grail said :

One incident is enough to get on your blacklist? “Bigot” does not even begin to describe your attitude. 1337haxor’s post omits important details about the altercation, such as the speaker giving the bird to the waiter along with a shouting argument.

Anyone who has “blacklisted” this establishment for one incident without allowing time for an apology needs to seriously look at what a mockery they are making of themselves and pro-equality sentiment in Canberra. I do not want to be associated with such redneck behaviour as picking a fight with a homophobe in a public place, or publicly announcing a blacklisting of a café you were never going to visit anyway.

This behaviour is not acceptable in civilised society.

Sure, go ahead and discuss the incident and tell us how shocking was the behaviour of both parties involved. Tell us your side of the story. Then wait for Landmark to come back with an apology or other statement. Where is the request for Landmark to comment? Where is the patience usually allowed for preparation of an apology?

In related news, a bunch of knee-jerk reactions from indie authors got LendInk shut down. The capacity for people to react impulsively against their own interests is astounding.

Sticking your finger up at a bigot is not a problem. its infact its incredibly civilised.

There is no apology that can be given for the cafes behaviour though. Why would you try to defend them?

Do you make a habit of reacting without even considering the evidence? You don’t even know the truth about what happened, beyond a single post from someone, and here you are blacklisting, boycotting, and generally making a huge beat up of the issue. Very intelligent.

ToastFliesRED said :

But after many years of dealing with complaints long ago now I am also a proponent of the perspective best exemplified to me in the quote by the character John Sheridan in the TV Series Babylon 5 “understanding is a three edged sword, your side, their side and the truth”

THIS.

Actuaslly, several different reports have been made, not just a single source.

Why one earth would a protest about human rights randomly choose to attack a random cafe?

makes no sense.

#21
Jim Jones2:12 pm, 14 Aug 12

Pfft … swords don’t have 3 edges.

#22
johnboy2:16 pm, 14 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

Pfft … swords don’t have 3 edges.

Star pickets on the other hand…

#23
rosscoact2:19 pm, 14 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Jim Jones said :

Pfft … swords don’t have 3 edges.

Star pickets on the other hand…

:) I am so going to use that. Give someone a beating with the star picket of truth

#24
Micky_P2:24 pm, 14 Aug 12

I was at the rally for a brief period and I couldn’t quite figure out why the cafe kept increasing the volume of their music. This explains so much.

#25
astrojax2:27 pm, 14 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Jim Jones said :

Pfft … swords don’t have 3 edges.

Star pickets on the other hand…

and a pointy bit…

does anyone know if their coffee is worth trying anyway? or should one simply repair anyway to the relative coffee quality a short stroll away at loui’s, tossolini’s, the deli outside supabarn or a longer hike to lonsdale st roasters, to name a few..?

FXST01 said :

Storm in a teacup.

has to be better than a teabag in one..

#26
gooterz2:32 pm, 14 Aug 12

Just as some people take everything personally, some people take things as agaisnt their minority!

The owners were probably angry about their loss of business from the protest. If there were 400 of them people would be keen to avoid it. Hopefully they can get rid of the chuggers too!

”We apologise to some heterosexuals that are intoxicated, this room is only accesable [sic] for customers of cube Thursday, Friday and Saturday evening after 9:00pm, which has been in place for the past month.”

Read more: http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/protest-leads-to-complaint-over-cafe-20120813-24582.html#ixzz23UZEOkUm
Isnt that a breach of the discrimination act?
Refusing a service to straight people!

#27
johnboy2:34 pm, 14 Aug 12

Yes because a large crowd is the worst thing that could occur near a business selling refreshments!

#28
Henry822:37 pm, 14 Aug 12

Sounds like both “groups” were acting like children

#29
PBO2:38 pm, 14 Aug 12

Jim Jones said :

Pfft … swords don’t have 3 edges.

Some bayonets, court swords and rapiers do, did you know that the mind is like a sword? It’s easier to take ppl down when it’s sharp.

I have no problem with gay civil unions, I just believe everyone should be taken down a peg or two. I am going to get a coffee there just because there is an outcry. Do you like your coffee hot, black and without a penis? Then try Landmark!

#30
colourful sydney rac2:39 pm, 14 Aug 12

johnboy said :

Yes because a large crowd is the worst thing that could occur near a business selling refreshments!

I know if I was running a coffee shop the thing I would dread the most would be a large crowd of lefties assembling near by.

Unless I was running a starbucks.

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