20 September 2012

Liberals to duplicate Horse Park Drive

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Member for Cars Alistair Coe has, with his leader, announced a little something for the suffering commuters of Gungahlin.

ACT Opposition Leader Zed Seselja and ACT Shadow Transport Services Minister Alistair Coe announced today that if elected, the Canberra Liberals will duplicate Horse Park Drive. Mr Seselja said Gungahlin residents deserve a government which understands the needs of the growing area.

“A Canberra Liberals Government will duplicate Horse Park Drive if elected, as part of our $700 million commitment for Canberra’s roads,” Mr Seselja said.

“This duplication is an important part of our commitment to reducing travel times, relieving congestion and improving road safety across Canberra.

“The needs of Gungahlin residents have been neglected by ACT Labor, with the government’s iconic failure that is the Gungahlin Drive Extension, and the still-unfinished Gungahlin pool which was promised at the last election.

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arescarti42 said :

Cool, looks like the Libs might be on to a winner in this case.

They were bound to get something right eventually! haha :p

Spykler said :

This is not following any logic- Horse Park drive will probably have to be duplicated at some stage in the future to link up with the Majura road duplication, but Gundaroo drive between the Lakes golf club and the Barton highway roundabout surely must be a priority with 5 (?) more Gungahlin suburbs coming online in the next 6-7 years, this issue MUST be addressed .Even now, it is a parking lot after 7:30am..With 10,000-15,000 more cars expected in the next decade- this will be unusable in the peak morning rush..Also, as I live in Crace, there is really only two exits that can be used in the morning and they both funnel out onto Gundaroo Dve. There doesn’t appear to be any plan to provide an exit onto the Barton Highway from Crace- this will surely be seen as folly over the next few years… Libs- address this now.

Yep agree, except for the exit out of Crace onto the Barton Highway bit. As it is a highway the number of entry points should be limited. However to serve the needs of Crace what is needed is for the road around the back of Palmerston (Nudur Drive I think its called)linking up with Gungahlin Drive to be completed, thus giving another way out and access to elsewhere. Of course Crace itself is far from finished so once building goes further east there should be connections to the roads into Mitchell. So a bit of patience is needed.

This is not following any logic- Horse Park drive will probably have to be duplicated at some stage in the future to link up with the Majura road duplication, but Gundaroo drive between the Lakes golf club and the Barton highway roundabout surely must be a priority with 5 (?) more Gungahlin suburbs coming online in the next 6-7 years, this issue MUST be addressed .Even now, it is a parking lot after 7:30am..With 10,000-15,000 more cars expected in the next decade- this will be unusable in the peak morning rush..Also, as I live in Crace, there is really only two exits that can be used in the morning and they both funnel out onto Gundaroo Dve. There doesn’t appear to be any plan to provide an exit onto the Barton Highway from Crace- this will surely be seen as folly over the next few years… Libs- address this now.

Truthiness said :

One would think it might also need finishing too. Wasn’t it meant to go all the way behind ngunnawal?

I have sent an email to the Liberals asking that very question. Also asking what is the expected timeframe.

Do we get street lights too? There are some foggy and rainy nights when I like to see where I am going, maybe thats just a personal preference. The whole “country back-lane” vibe is nice, but for a relatively high speed arterial road, it’d be handy to not run into things in the dark.

bd84 said :

Do you work for Katy Gallagher by any chance? The attitude of waiting until the problem is massive is a chronic problem of this government.

In one short answer, yes it does need duplicating and it needs it now.

To expand, traffic is bumper to bumper, particularly towards Harrison in the morning. The lack of planning for this road as the suburbs of Forde, Bonner and new Harrison is typical of this government, also considering that they wiill duplicate Majura Rd in the near future without any proper consideration of the 4 lane road will bottle neck into Horse Park Dr once complete.

Sure you don’t work for Zed? Anyway this kind of planning is typical of ANY government. Think back to when the Libs were last in power and the roads that using your argument they should have built or duplicated but never did. Also think of their interference in the GDE fiasco. But as for duplication in Gungahlin I would have thought that Gundaroo road would have been a higher priority and then of course there are roads in Tuggernanong that could equally be as important.

So typical of the libs what they are announcing are so called ‘failings’ of the labor government that have been unpopular with the great unwashed, read you and me. When in reality if they were in power and if they do get into power they will find that there is only a limited amount of money and you need to prioritise where it is spent. So with Horse Park yes it may be getting busy but that doesn’t make it a priority.

bd84 said :

Highlighting the debacle of the planning, a sensible decision to make the Horse Park and Gundaroo Dr intersection all dual carriage way, it’s intersection with Mulligan’s flat Rd capable being dual carriage, but then go and build an intersection for Well Station Dr as single lane.

The forward thinking policy like this is a promising sign for the opposition. Hopefully we can see them making some changes to the departmental practices to make them actually plan things properly..

Dream on… The libs if they get in will find life is not quite as rosey as they would like to think.

sarahsarah said :

bd84 said :

arescarti42 said :

Honest question, does it actually need duplicating? I didn’t think the congestion started happening until you got down towards the airport and all the traffic lights around there.

Do you work for Katy Gallagher by any chance? The attitude of waiting until the problem is massive is a chronic problem of this government.

In one short answer, yes it does need duplicating and it needs it now.

To expand, traffic is bumper to bumper, particularly towards Harrison in the morning. The lack of planning for this road as the suburbs of Forde, Bonner and new Harrison is typical of this government, also considering that they wiill duplicate Majura Rd in the near future without any proper consideration of the 4 lane road will bottle neck into Horse Park Dr once complete.

Highlighting the debacle of the planning, a sensible decision to make the Horse Park and Gundaroo Dr intersection all dual carriage way, it’s intersection with Mulligan’s flat Rd capable being dual carriage, but then go and build an intersection for Well Station Dr as single lane.

The forward thinking policy like this is a promising sign for the opposition. Hopefully we can see them making some changes to the departmental practices to make them actually plan things properly..

Pretty much this. In my experience as a semi-regular user of this road it is constantly busy, even during “off-peak” times.

While they are at it, Flemington (once you hit Mitchell) could do with a bit of TLC too. :\

+1 vote for Flemington. That and the fact that the 3 lanes of Northbourne/Fed Highway merging into 2 just before the Antill internsection are bigger projects. That alone would reduce a heap of congestion with minimal cost. And probably explains why people take HPD when going south.

One would think it might also need finishing too. Wasn’t it meant to go all the way behind ngunnawal?

Cool, looks like the Libs might be on to a winner in this case.

bd84 said :

arescarti42 said :

Honest question, does it actually need duplicating? I didn’t think the congestion started happening until you got down towards the airport and all the traffic lights around there.

Do you work for Katy Gallagher by any chance? The attitude of waiting until the problem is massive is a chronic problem of this government.

In one short answer, yes it does need duplicating and it needs it now.

To expand, traffic is bumper to bumper, particularly towards Harrison in the morning. The lack of planning for this road as the suburbs of Forde, Bonner and new Harrison is typical of this government, also considering that they wiill duplicate Majura Rd in the near future without any proper consideration of the 4 lane road will bottle neck into Horse Park Dr once complete.

Highlighting the debacle of the planning, a sensible decision to make the Horse Park and Gundaroo Dr intersection all dual carriage way, it’s intersection with Mulligan’s flat Rd capable being dual carriage, but then go and build an intersection for Well Station Dr as single lane.

The forward thinking policy like this is a promising sign for the opposition. Hopefully we can see them making some changes to the departmental practices to make them actually plan things properly..

Pretty much this. In my experience as a semi-regular user of this road it is constantly busy, even during “off-peak” times.

While they are at it, Flemington (once you hit Mitchell) could do with a bit of TLC too. :\

arescarti42 said :

Honest question, does it actually need duplicating? I didn’t think the congestion started happening until you got down towards the airport and all the traffic lights around there.

Probably not right at the minute, but have to remember the newer suburbs. Jacka is opening up past Bonner and Throsby and Kenny (*snigger*) right near Harrison.

arescarti42 said :

Honest question, does it actually need duplicating? I didn’t think the congestion started happening until you got down towards the airport and all the traffic lights around there.

Do you work for Katy Gallagher by any chance? The attitude of waiting until the problem is massive is a chronic problem of this government.

In one short answer, yes it does need duplicating and it needs it now.

To expand, traffic is bumper to bumper, particularly towards Harrison in the morning. The lack of planning for this road as the suburbs of Forde, Bonner and new Harrison is typical of this government, also considering that they wiill duplicate Majura Rd in the near future without any proper consideration of the 4 lane road will bottle neck into Horse Park Dr once complete.

Highlighting the debacle of the planning, a sensible decision to make the Horse Park and Gundaroo Dr intersection all dual carriage way, it’s intersection with Mulligan’s flat Rd capable being dual carriage, but then go and build an intersection for Well Station Dr as single lane.

The forward thinking policy like this is a promising sign for the opposition. Hopefully we can see them making some changes to the departmental practices to make them actually plan things properly..

Honest question, does it actually need duplicating? I didn’t think the congestion started happening until you got down towards the airport and all the traffic lights around there.

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